Double Major in Chemistry and Nursing

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Lunasly

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Hey all,

I was wondering if you could all give me your opinions on majoring in Nursing as well as Chemistry. I was thinking about this because I am interested in doing a CRNA program if I don't get into medical school. I just want to keep my options open.

Thanks.

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In general, it is recommended that while one can major in whatever they want, Nursing be avoided. It tends to raise interview questions, for various reasons (taking another's spot who actually plans to practice as a nurse, etc...). If your reasoning is that its your back up plan, I would be worried that medical school interviewers might see this as a sign that you are not as motivated as you could be to be a physician.
 
Like gettheleadout said, the general consensus around here is that one should avoid anything to do with nursing like the plague.
 
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To echo, one of the approximately three main reasons that nursing is not recommended is because so many credit hours are involved, and that is when it is a stand alone major. Chemistry is also known for a rather heavy credit load, although not bad if one has to take a year of gen and orgo anyways. What I am getting at is that from a strictly logistical standpoint it is nuts to do that as a double major.

Aside from the logistics, nursing is really one of the only "bad" pre med majors. If you plan to apply to med school straight out the adcoms will ask you why you took a spot at nursing school if you didn't want to become a nurse, thereby contributing to the shortage and drawing question to the validity of your desire to be a doctor.

If you actually want to work as a nurse for a while it may not be as horrible of an idea though.
 
In general, it is recommended that while one can major in whatever they want, Nursing be avoided. It tends to raise interview questions, for various reasons (taking another's spot who actually plans to practice as a nurse, etc...). If your reasoning is that its your back up plan, I would be worried that medical school interviewers might see this as a sign that you are not as motivated as you could be to be a physician.

To add on to this, I would say the biggest worry is interviewers think you don't fully comprehend the difference between nursing and medicine. There is an enormous difference, even between an anesthesiologist and CRNA.

Studies have shown that the average doctor over the course of his training has over 10,000 hours of training. The average nurse's training is in the hundreds/low thousand range. That's just one of the many major differences between the two fields.

Adcom's want to see your dedication to and understanding of the field of medicine. To me that means exhausting all other options (reapplying MD, applying DO, applying Caribbean MD) before going to nursing.
 
There are many second degree programs allowing you to get a nursing degree in one year if you already have a bachelor's degree. Consider that your fallback.
 
Speaking as a practicing nurse who is now accepted into the 2015 class, I have a different perspective on this.

I initially did very poorly in college after high school, and when I decided to become a doctor I was advised by the premed advisor at my school to have a backup plan. I think she was politely being skeptical of my chances. She was also right, because based on my history I had no chance. I was also recently married and had a family to support financially, so I dropped out of the premed program I was in and enrolled in nursing school because I knew I could get in and I knew I could always have a job if need be. I did it fully intending it to be a stepping stone to becoming a physician in the end. In short, I did my backup plan first because I doubted my ability to do well enough in the basic sciences to compete in medical school.

Looking back, there was no way I was ready to be a doctor at the time. But working alongside doctors on a daily basis has given me a huge advantage (I believe) in how I am going to learn medicine. It is true that they are vastly different professions, but there is also plenty of overlap. I finished an associate's degree and then worked as a nurse for the next four years while getting a science bachelor's in order to apply to med school. In my case, it worked out. That being said, if you believe you can study well and earn the grades you need, don't sell yourself short -- you'll get in somewhere. Part of what hurt me at some of the schools I was really interested in was low grades because I worked full time while going to school.

In my case, I did it for financial reasons because of my family. You'll have to decide if your own reasons are sufficient. Just remember that you need to explain it to admissions, and if you sound flaky it will hurt you. If you are planning to apply to medical school directly on graduating, it may look flaky because you will never work as a nurse and therefore haven't benefitted from the clinical experience. You may as well double major in physiology and chemistry in order to wow the admissions -- they can train you in the medical stuff.

Also, doing a double major in chemistry may help an admissions as a CRNA, but not nearly as much as you might hope. CRNA admissions are very similar to medicine. They want good grades and a standardized test (GRE instead of MCAT, so much easier). But they also want clinical experience. Its nearly impossible to get into CRNA without intensive care experience.

Here's my recommendation: if you are planning your life in a way that will allow you to work as an RN for at least 2 years before applying to medical school, it may be worth it. Make sure you get a job in a surgical ICU and work your tail off at learning. Be wary of doing this while getting any other degree, because it will be hard to do well academically and that will automatically kill your chances at some schools. Then, if you don't get into med school when you apply, you've got the nursing degree and the ICU experience required to try for a CRNA position.

Don't try to rush things.

Do well at the things you commit to.

Do that, and you'll get exactly what you aspire to.
 
I think there is a huge difference between getting a BSN and working for four years vs. getting a BSN and applying immediately. The former makes you a nontrad, whereas the latter makes you look like someone who took a nursing spot without any intention of ever using it.
 
I think there is a huge difference between getting a BSN and working for four years vs. getting a BSN and applying immediately. The former makes you a nontrad, whereas the latter makes you look like someone who took a nursing spot without any intention of ever using it.
I agree, but doing the former intentionally kind of seems like a waste of time to me...
 
it isn't that nursing majors require more credits, it is that there seems to be an overwhelming ignorance by every nursing school in the nation regarding number of credits awarded and time required. the nursing majors i have seen take a 3 credit skills lab that is 4 days a week for 6-8 hours per day. and they still make you take a full load. and these are through the whole program. just major in chemistry and work as a CNA.
 
what? i didn't get into med school? no problem! i'll be a crna and get tons of cash! i got it all figured out.
 
As another practicing RN that was considering the CRNA route, I would NOT double major. Get your chem degree, and do as well as you can. If medicine is what you want, work your butt of to get it. If you end up not getting accepted, THEN and only THEN should you consider the CRNA route (although a PA may be a better choice if you like the medicine model). As another poster said, CRNA school is not easy to get into, and it requires quite a time commitment between the BSN and the ICU experience. I would also suggest some shadowing time with MD's and CRNAs to see what model you prefer. I found after a year of nursing that I made a BIG mistake, and now I am back at square one (although thankfully I had all of my prereqs done). Good luck in whatever you choose!!
 
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