MD & DO Dr Charles Krauthammer

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Charles Krauthammer, conservative commentator and Pulitzer Prize winner, dead at 68

 

[TheIllusionist]

He will be missed

An aside: what is a the relevance mentioning him being Jewish?

 

[7331poas]

Agree. “Jewish person” is probably a better way to phrase it. I think it’s great that someone wants to highlight the achievements of ethnically Jewish people, and there are many. But “Jew” sounds derogatory as it is often used in that way.


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[shortcoatdream15]

The video won’t open for me for some reason. But I just wanted to add that I’m Jewish, and believe me when I say when somebody refers to you as “Jew,” for the most part they’re not being nice. As in, “I can spot a Jew from a mile away.” (This was said to me recently... ironically, obviously he couldn’t “spot a Jew,” since I was standing right in front of him when he said this.)


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I’m also Jewish and I don’t really care. I think the prevalence of anti Semitism among non-Jewish people in western countries is sometimes vastly overestimated by Jewish people. Let’s not be so sensitive

 

[bananafish94]

I never knew he was a doctor! I only rarely agreed with his opinion pieces that I've read in WaPo, but he was clearly an extraordinarily intelligent man and a gifted writer. He was always respectful and eloquent in his opinions. We need more voices like that.

 

[shortcoatdream15]

I came from a place where anti Semitism was the norm, so I’m able to recognize it when I see it, thanks.


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Yah I’m sure whoever wrote this blurb with the word “Jew” is a raging nazi..sorry I doubted your superior instincts

 

[shortcoatdream15]

I mean, my family also immigrated here from Eastern Europe, as refugees fleeing persecution and discrimination against Jews. I have also experienced anti semitism first hand. If your experiences differ from mine, that is fine, and I won’t pretend to be keenly aware of sensibilities toward Jews across the US or the world. I was simply just expressing skepticism at your claim that “when someone uses the word Jew they are not being nice.” I have never in my life known the word “Jew” to be a slur, and in fact I resent the idea that it should be a slur, as it’s a word that I find significant meaning in as a part of my identity. If you do react to it as a slur, I urge you to not be so sensitive to it, and I urge you to own the word as your own, as a Jew.

I guess you’re just not used to people disagreeing with you? A bit ridiculous for you to pull out the “when you’re a doctor” card, but yeah, cool

 

[shortcoatdream15]

I also should’ve mentioned that of course I agree that the person who said the “I can see a Jew from a mile away” line is obviously being anti Semitic, and that sucks that you had to deal with that, and I’m sorry that happened to you.

 

[Raney Schauer]

Religion, sexual orientation, gender identity, racial makeup, cultural background.... none of these things matter. The only thatching that matters is if you're an asshat or not.
Evaluate everyone you meet individually based on what sort of content falls out of the hole under their nose and go from there.

The sooner everyone gets to that place the better off we're all gonna be.

 

[TheIllusionist]

Religion, sexual orientation, gender identity, racial makeup, cultural background.... none of these things matter. The only thatching that matters is if you're an asshat or not.
Evaluate everyone you meet individually based on what sort of content falls out of the hole under their nose and go from there.

The sooner everyone gets to that place the better off we're all gonna be.

This was my point. Why mention it?

 

[Psai]

I think being Jewish is very relevant. His name is Dr. Krauthammer. It really doesn't get more fitting than that.

 

[Wilf]

I will miss reading Dr. Krauthammer's column. Intellectuals are rare on both sides of the political aisle and he was one of the greats.

Here is one of his pieces, germane to this forum:

Why doctors quit

 

[911389]

I’m also Jewish and I don’t really care. I think the prevalence of anti Semitism among non-Jewish people in western countries is sometimes vastly overestimated by Jewish people. Let’s not be so sensitive

i don’t think it’s very kind for you to minimize what others find offensive. OP using the descriptor “jew” was unnecessary and people were put-off. it really seems like you’re the one who can’t handle disagreement

 

[deleted407021]

Religion, sexual orientation, gender identity, racial makeup, cultural background.... none of these things matter. The only thatching that matters is if you're an asshat or not.
Evaluate everyone you meet individually based on what sort of content falls out of the hole under their nose and go from there.

The sooner everyone gets to that place the better off we're all gonna be.

I think they matter to people whose religious, sexual, gender, racial and cultural identities are challenged or minimized by more powerful elements in society.

 

[Raney Schauer]

I think they matter to people whose religious, sexual, gender, racial and cultural identities are challenged or minimized by more powerful elements in society.

OK shouldn't matter. In a Gene Roddenberry future utopia these things are your personal business, which you don't inflict on anyone, and don't expect special treatment for, and on the other side of the coin, people don't prejudge you for or trip over themselves trying to. The only thing that should matter is assholishness and reputation.

 

[deleted407021]

OK shouldn't matter. In a Gene Roddenberry future utopia these things are your personal ****, which you don't inflict on anyone, and don't expect special treatment for, and on the other side of the coin, people don't prejudge you for. The only thing that should matter is assholishness and reputation.

In the world Gene Roddenberry kickstarted (let’s be honest, it’s the many other writers who made it great), respecting differences and treating others fairly based on their abilities, backgrounds and individuality is a major component of what makes that society work. I don’t think a regard for the importance of race, class, religion and identity in general was ever absent from Star Trek, in its mature form.

What you’re saying about how people are responsible for their behavior and how they communicate is still true, and I agree.

 

[VA Hopeful Dr]

That’s great, I’m glad you’re proud of your heritage. But your experience is different from mine, or others. Far from being SJW, I’m a gun toting, flag waving republican. But the word “Jew” is equivalent to “colored” in the eyes of many of us who have personally been on the firing line of discrimination for a prolonged period of time. We don’t like it. You can’t make us like it. And no pretty article will erase the memories of people screaming “where you going, Jew girl?” as I walked down the school hallway. If you’ve had the privilege never to experience that as a “JAP,” good for you. But I wasn’t born in the States, and my experience with the word is quite different. Being sensitive to the experiences of others without being derogatory, as in your statement, “get over yourselves,” is far from SJW-ism. It’s just being a human being.


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I knew I liked you for a reason

 

[DubbiDoctor]

FWIW, I am a JAP. My father was a Jew, my mother a Catholic, and we observe both traditions in my home.

You are calling yourself a "Jewish American princess"? I come from an area in New York where that term is used, and it's not used endearingly or innocuously. My mother once had to listen to a hairdresser rant about the rich, spoiled Jews in the area. There still are non-Jewish people who are very resentful toward wealthy Jewish people, and use that term derisively. Antisemitism should not be dismissed, and I don't believe that Dr. Krauthammer would respect your cavalier attitude toward it.

 

[Matthew9Thirtyfive]

I never said he was a Nazi. Just a bit insensitive to terminology, which is understandable—and exactly why someone else asked “how is being a Jew relevant?” I can also tell who the real Nazis are, given the fact that several relatives of mine were beaten for being Jewish, my mom lost her job because of it, and we had to leave our country because of it. But please, do tell me about how I’m too sensitive. Jesus, what a jerk... I sincerely hope when you finally make it to medical school, you don’t treat your patients like this. Blocked.


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I'm Jewish too. I don't find the word "Jew" to be offensive in and of itself. It's all in the context. I am a Jew. But if someone puts some stank on it, as Louis CK put it, then yeah, it becomes offensive. And I've dealt with my share of Antisemitism. That said, saying you can "spot a Jew from a mile away" is offensive.

On a side note, I didn't realize you were part of the Tribe.

Edit: Just to add a little more varied experience/attitude, a dear friend that I made at schul who was actually in two different concentration camps did not find the word Jew offensive unless it was said in an derogatory way (the same way you could say Italian and make it derogatory).

There is nothing wrong with you finding it offensive. That's your right as a person, especially as a Jew who has experienced Antisemitism. But in many places in this country, people use the word Jew the way they use the word Italian.

 

[Matthew9Thirtyfive]

FWIW, I am a JAP. My father was a Jew, my mother a Catholic, and we observe both traditions in my home.

JAP is not a term of endearment in most circles, btw. I respect "taking it back," but when most people use the term JAP, it is definitely with an Antisemitic undertone.

 

[MediCane2006]

I knew I liked you for a reason

One of us!

 

[Money Moniker]

Agreed
Dr K. always struck me as a gentleman first, a scholar and incredibly even keel, all this while immobilized in a wheel chair. Just blows my mind. I only learned recently that his injury paralyzed him during his first year of medical school, and he never once showed any grievance, complaint, self-pity, in spite of it all. Compare that to today. Chilling.

A gentleman, scholar, officer and a jew. I'm sure the guy was smart, but his relentless warmongering was detrimental to the national interest of the United States and its people. Again, he was a smart guy, so I don't think he was "wrong" with his foreign policy prescriptions, no pun intended, but rather that the national interests of this country and its people may not have been of primary import in his decision making process. RIP to him as a person, but his political influence will not be missed by those of us not in favor of further ruinous middle eastern misadventures.

 

[de Ribas]

I’m also Jewish and I don’t really care. I think the prevalence of anti Semitism among non-Jewish people in western countries is sometimes vastly overestimated by Jewish people. Let’s not be so sensitive

My grandfather survived the concentration camp and he taught me to how important it is to respect yourself and make others respect you. I grew up in Jewish community in city with the largest jewish community at the time. As an immigrant I have experienced how it is to overcome public views. I also think that sometimes people are too sensitive. Other people also have to overcome the same attitude towards them whether they are from middle east, Africa or Asia. Everyone experiences it.

 

[jdh71]

No one screws up a thread quite like allo

Lol