Dress code for Path residency!!

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Here is a silly question. Is there an unofficial dress code for path residency? Apart from scrubs ofcourse.. I just ask this because i saw a wide spectrum on the interview trail..plus i am really bored at my lab desk!!

 

[djmd]

Here is a silly question. Is there an unofficial dress code for path residency? Apart from scrubs ofcourse.. I just ask this because i saw a wide spectrum on the interview trail..plus i am really bored at my lab desk!!

Totally program to program specific...

Generally, it is pretty close to standard hospital dress code...
Some places let you get away with scrubs away from the gross desk, others expect nothing less than shirt and tie except when grossing...

 

[Dermbound00]

Usually shorts, sandals, and a Grateful Dead T-Shirt. Sorry, you will have to put out that joint prior to entering the hospital.
You are a physcian, so I would hope you would act like one, and maybe even dress like one.
If you are a first year resident and grossing to no end and performing autopsies, then I am sure scrub attire is fine. After that when you are actually acting like and being a physician, you should dress like one.

 

[Patrick O]

Dermbound.... aside from a lecture that I might give every once in awhile .....I have lived in scrubs during my residency...for the past 3 years. I am a physician...and quite frankly aside from interdepartmental conferences or the occasional clinical attending visit... all I am around is the clinical lab, gross bench or autopsy room. I don't need to wear a tie or fancy pants or s starched shirt, ironing sucks. In the future I probably will have to dress up more regularly but for now I am living it up and not appreciating my expanding waistline since scrubs are so forgiving and darn comfortable. Many famous dermatopathologists go to work in jeans and a t-shirt. By the way I am dermaccepted.

 

[KluverB]

Pants, optional.

 

[levels x3]

Completely agree with Patrick O. The official dress code of residents is scrubs and t-shirts in some combination...across the board regardless of specialty. Reasons? They don't pay us enough to wear a tie. We dress to our pay grade and resident salary = scrubs. After I graduate, I'll wear a nice shirt, but hopefully no tie for a routine work day. Also, if you start wearing ties, it's hard to stop. Once you set that bar someone will ask you why you're dressed so casually without one, even if you're still wearing a nice shirt and pants. Finally, ties are great fomites...have you ever washed a tie?

However, thanks to Patrick O, I might now go with jeans and a t-shirt everyday. If famous dermatopathologists are doing it, I want to do it too.

 

[KeratinPearls]

I was planning on wearing the same scrubs everyday to work for four years.

 

[LADoc00]

Usually scrub bottoms and comfy Tommy Bahamas short sleeved shirt will do you up nice.

Throw on some black or brown socks with Tevas and a fanny pack and you are set.

If it is cold outside, a Brooks Brothers paisely red smoking jacket will also do you up nice. Also scrubs+furs are in right now in NYC I hear.

Remember if you are single to put on super tight scrub bottoms and a Trojan Magnum condom in your back scrubs pocket for potentials to scope out.

 

[Matte Kudesai]

Usually scrub bottoms and comfy Tommy Bahamas short sleeved shirt will do you up nice.

Throw on some black or brown socks with Tevas and a fanny pack and you are set.

If it is cold outside, a Brooks Brothers paisely red smoking jacket will also do you up nice. Also scrubs+furs are in right now in NYC I hear.

Remember if you are single to put on super tight scrub bottoms and a Trojan Magnum condom in your back scrubs pocket for potentials to scope out.

You forgot to mention to always let your thong ta da da da's hang out the back o the scrubs....😱

 

[LADoc00]

You forgot to mention to always let your thong ta da da da's hang out the back o the scrubs....😱

good point, pull the thong up and low ride the scrubs a bit. I used to see that all the time, seriously. Not good if you are toting a 40+ BMI tho

 

[Matte Kudesai]

The gusseted crotch can be your friend...

Rock climbing pants with a gusseted crotch should be standard pathology resident garb...

What sucks about scrubs is that you may end up having to fish your pager out of a urinal....or the toilet...the draw string thing does not always work....

http://www.gramicci.com/pl/c/105.html

comfort for your boys...

sign out in comfort... gross in style...

gusset that crotch.

keens are better than teva IMHO

 

[skinknee]

In all seriousness though, what would you all recommend to wear being a 4th year visiting med student? Shirt & tie anytime I'm not w/ residents grossing?

Obviously, I'm very interested in Path and will hopefully get a LOR.

Thanks.

 

[Dermbound00]

You forgot to mention to always let your thong ta da da da's hang out the back o the scrubs....😱

That brings me to another topic although somewhat relevant. Is it me or does every program have a female who has had previous surgical work done, wears provocative clothes, and conveniently contorts into the right positions to grab everyone's attention. Furthermore, these same women have the mutant-like attnedings wrapped around their fingers. They garner all the attention, can get away with murder, and have more publications than Sharon Weiss without having to do a thing. Simply amazing!
Speaking of the mutant-like attendings. Have you ever sat in the lobby of the hotel of a national pathology meeting? You will see more gross cytogenetic abnormalities than any textbook. Try it next time.

 

[Matte Kudesai]

In all seriousness though, what would you all recommend to wear being a 4th year visiting med student? Shirt & tie anytime I'm not w/ residents grossing?

Obviously, I'm very interested in Path and will hopefully get a LOR.

Thanks.

Starched Brooks brothers shirt with a lovely bow tie....
Gold cuff links...

Light brown herringbone tweed pants with cuffs.

Suspenders that match your shoes....

horn rimmed tortoise shell glasses....

thong underwear that only you know about....
Oh yeah... don't forget the titanium nipple rings..

This will add to your confidence level and any attending worth their salt will write a three page LOR..

If you smoke use a cigarette holder as well..

If you want to dazzle you have to be dandy... Thats my motto..😉

 

[green mantis]

In all seriousness though, what would you all recommend to wear being a 4th year visiting med student? Shirt & tie anytime I'm not w/ residents grossing?

At my residency, the medical students were usually the best dressed people in the department. If you're shooting for a letter, I'm sure the attendings will probably remember you better than if you just wore scrubs. It's pretty bad when you do a visiting rotation & no one remembers you. We had a couple interviewees like that when I was chief.

Keep in mind that you can always change before you gross, & not every program is even going to let you gross.


----- Antony

 

[mlw03]

i agree with green mantis. once you get in you can dress like a shlum as everyone suggests (or maybe not, i dunno yet). but for an externship where you're hoping to impress, dress the part. no one will criticize you for overdressing in pants, shirt, and tie, and you can change if needed before you cut. of course, you may do that for the first few days and then have them tell you it's fine to wear scrubs. in the grand scheme of things, how you act will be 100 times more important than your attire. poor dressed and interested beats well-dressed jerk everyday.

 

[Bart Clarridge]

Usually shorts, sandals, and a Grateful Dead T-Shirt.

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That's rads.

That brings me to another topic although somewhat relevant. Is it me or does every program have a female who has had previous surgical work done, wears provocative clothes, and conveniently contorts into the right positions to grab everyone's attention. Furthermore, these same women have the mutant-like attnedings wrapped around their fingers. They garner all the attention, can get away with murder, and have more publications than Sharon Weiss without having to do a thing. Simply amazing!

...

Yeah, and most of these women are attendings

 

[Pingu]

Is it me or does every program have a female who has had previous surgical work done, wears provocative clothes, and conveniently contorts into the right positions to grab everyone's attention. Furthermore, these same women have the mutant-like attnedings wrapped around their fingers. They garner all the attention, can get away with murder, and have more publications than Sharon Weiss without having to do a thing. Simply amazing!

Do I know you or something?

Honestly, I've noticed that wearing a skirt and heels gets me taken more 'seriously'. The problem is that getting all gussied up takes time that I'm frequently not willing to spend. Hence my scrubs and t-shirt today. 😀

 

[green mantis]

Is it me or does every program have a female who has had previous surgical work done, wears provocative clothes, and conveniently contorts into the right positions to grab everyone's attention.

Unfortunately, we didn't have any of these females in my program. I'm not sure if it had anything to do w/ the fact that a number of them were IMG's & already married.


----- Antony

 

[yaah]

I think people wear scrubs too much, but whenever I say that people probably roll their eyes at me and call me old fashioned. I think people should look professional at work, but I think these days most people don't agree with that. Either that, or they use the old, "I know plenty of people who dress nicely but act like idiots, clothes don't make the difference," etc etc. Fact remains there is a time and a place for scrubs. If you wear them into the hospital every single day it's a bit much. We only have one rotation that requires scrubs (plus when you are on call it is basically a requirement in case you have to do a frozen in a certain location). But we have people in scrubs on dermpath, hemepath, even micro.

The truth is, though, a lot of people use scrubs as an excuse to not get dressed and still maintain that they look "professional."

 

[Arctic Char]

i concur with yaah. look good, feel good. not to mention it establishes a tone of professionalism that might otherwise not be there, and the group suffers as a result. dressing "for work" helps to remind you and others whose time you're on, and it defines boundaries between what is and is not appropriate in the work place - and unfortunately, there are plenty of people who can use the help in figuring this kind of thing out (otherwise they will learn it the hard, awkward, and embarrassing way that is annoying for everyone).

"I know plenty of people who dress nicely but act like idiots, clothes don't make the difference,"

this is a lame argument. whoever says this in this debate has no ability to appreciate the reality that image matters, and dressing in a respectful way demonstrates that you are someone who takes their job seriously, and you are respectful to your co-workers (at least, that is the image i glean upon first glance. obviously looks can be deceiving). first impressions matter in almost all arenas of life. so dressing like a goon, be it scrubs and a t-shirt or wearing black leather pants and skin-tight lycra, will not be in your best interest as a professional. no, clothes do not make the difference in one's ability per se, but they can make all the difference in the environment in which one works, and their interactions/relationships with other clinicians or business networks.

if you were called into court to testify - as a pathologist - you would wear a tie (as a gent). why the hell is the legal system so much more worthy of respectful attire than the hospital where you work, and people's lives are saved? riddle me this . . . .

 

[Path or bust]

i concur with yaah. look good, feel good. not to mention it establishes a tone of professionalism that might otherwise not be there, and the group suffers as a result. dressing "for work" helps to remind you and others whose time you're on, and it defines boundaries between what is and is not appropriate in the work place - and unfortunately, there are plenty of people who can use the help in figuring this kind of thing out (otherwise they will learn it the hard, awkward, and embarrassing way that is annoying for everyone).



this is a lame argument. whoever says this in this debate has no ability to appreciate the reality that image matters, and dressing in a respectful way demonstrates that you are someone who takes their job seriously, and you are respectful to your co-workers (at least, that is the image i glean upon first glance. obviously looks can be deceiving). first impressions matter in almost all arenas of life. so dressing like a goon, be it scrubs and a t-shirt or wearing black leather pants and skin-tight lycra, will not be in your best interest as a professional. no, clothes do not make the difference in one's ability per se, but they can make all the difference in the environment in which one works, and their interactions/relationships with other clinicians or business networks.

if you were called into court to testify - as a pathologist - you would wear a tie (as a gent). why the hell is the legal system so much more worthy of respectful attire than the hospital where you work, and people's lives are saved? riddle me this . . . .

I think you have excellent points and I agree with most of them. However, at what stage is professionalism lost? Is it the tie? The iron pressed shirt ? When I put on ties I personally feel like someone has their hands around my neck and feel like I'm choking. I've tried different collar sizes but i think my neck likes to be free. Do I still put on the tie? Sure....but I don't have to like it.

 

[Patrick O]

I think you have excellent points and I agree with most of them. However, at what stage is professionalism lost? Is it the tie? The iron pressed shirt ? When I put on ties I personally feel like someone has their hands around my neck and feel like I'm choking. I've tried different collar sizes but i think my neck likes to be free. Do I still put on the tie? Sure....but I don't have to like it.

Use a clip on tie with an expandable collar shirt. While your at it get some comfort waistband stretch pants, they are awesome... one of the best inventions ever.

 

[Pingu]

The truth is, though, a lot of people use scrubs as an excuse to not get dressed and still maintain that they look "professional."

Also, if every single other resident wears scrubs almost every day, regardless of rotation, and you proceed to show up every day dressed to the nines, you will definitely draw attention to yourself. While it is important to not just be a face in the crowd, sometimes being low key and blending in can work to your benefit.

I have a personal policy of dressing up for presentations, conferences, and any other situation in which I will be acting as a representative of my department. Sometimes, if I bought something cute, I'll dress up for the heck of it. The rest of the time it is scrubs and a white coat, since that is what everyone else wears. I think a clean pressed white coat can go a LONG way to making you look "professional" regardless of what you are wearing underneath. Also, don't underestimate the importance of personal hygeine towards a professional appearance.

 

[Arctic Char]

Also, if every single other resident wears scrubs almost every day, regardless of rotation, and you proceed to show up every day dressed to the nines, you will definitely draw attention to yourself. While it is important to not just be a face in the crowd, sometimes being low key and blending in can work to your benefit.

I have a personal policy of dressing up for presentations, conferences, and any other situation in which I will be acting as a representative of my department. Sometimes, if I bought something cute, I'll dress up for the heck of it. The rest of the time it is scrubs and a white coat, since that is what everyone else wears. I think a clean pressed white coat can go a LONG way to making you look "professional" regardless of what you are wearing underneath. Also, don't underestimate the importance of personal hygeine towards a professional appearance.

yeah thats fair. fair and balanced. . . . sure you don't work for Fox News? 😉