Duke announces proton therapy, $50 million anonymous gift

[thesauce]

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Zero people implied it would not work afaik

In other news this was one of the fastest rad onc tweet takedowns of all time!

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One of the comments was “they are too busy opening new bank accounts to respond”

 

[TheWallnerus]

would this be approved?
I guess if they are advertising it, they must be doing it

My assumption is… I know it’s bad to assume… they are “doing it.” But with their linacs. We all need to keep in mind that one of the side reasons to get a proton machine is that it tends to increase the linac business too.

 

[CurbYourExpectations]

Walk them by the proton machine and try to upsell them like a car salesman.

*Smacks proton machine* You can get a lot of arthritis relief with this bad boy.

But I agree, I initially read it assuming photons.

 

[drowsy12]

My assumption is… I know it’s bad to assume… they are “doing it.” But with their linacs. We all need to keep in mind that one of the side reasons to get a proton machine is that it tends to increase the linac business too.

Maryland has a big dept. the proton center is one part of it, and has protons

 

[deleted1217978]

Isn't Maryland the place that had that one rad onc who was spamming every rad onc in the country trying to get them to refer him patients for protons a few years ago? It was nuts.

I once referred a patient to New York Proton Center and got a nice Christmas card.

 

[TheWallnerus]

Isn't Maryland the place that had that one rad onc who was spamming every rad onc in the country trying to get them to refer him patients for protons a few years ago? It was nuts.

I once referred a patient to New York Proton Center and got a nice Christmas card.

Your experience would make for a humorous graphic t-shirt.

 

[Ray D. Ayshun]

Your experience would make for a humorous graphic t-shirt.

 

[medgator]

My assumption is… I know it’s bad to assume… they are “doing it.” But with their linacs. We all need to keep in mind that one of the side reasons to get a proton machine is that it tends to increase the linac business too.

Why every practice in (esp in FL) was tripping over themselves to get a cyberknife two-ish decades ago

 

[TheWallnerus]

Why every practice in (esp in FL) was tripping over themselves to get a cyberknife two-ish decades ago

Yes. And that reflects the average business acumen of the average rad onc. Sadly.

 

[medgator]

Yes. And that reflects the average business acumen of the average rad onc. Sadly.

Fo sho. So many CKs went bankrupt or were shut down, rad oncs using them for dubious indications etc. Sounds like..... Wait for it...

 

[A_DeMichele]

for straight Medicare (without supplemental insurance) protons for OA would get reimbursed just fine… Also some self-pay pts would get duped, no doubt

 

[medgator]

for straight Medicare (without supplemental insurance) protons for OA would get reimbursed just fine… Also some self-pay pts would get duped, no doubt

I'm sure there's a list of icd10 codes that get paid depending on the Medicare LCD, no? Similar to IMRT or srs/SBRT... They don't just cover every code out there

 

[TheWallnerus]

for straight Medicare (without supplemental insurance) protons for OA would get reimbursed just fine… Also some self-pay pts would get duped, no doubt

Maybe. If you practice in an area with no proton LCD. If you practice in an area with a proton LCD, there will be an accompanying LCA, and the arthritis ICDs aren’t on them, and the claim would be auto rejected.