Hi, I am new here so sorry if this is in the wrong section, but what do you guys think is the easiest with admissions in general between podiatry, optometry, and vet? which is hardest? I know none are easy, but just looking for the easiest? Thanks
Easier Admissions: Optometry, Podiatry, or Vet?
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Harvard med school.
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Gochi do you mean the oppositte???
No, do you?
No, I am not, just trying to know what to expect. I know the question sounds dumb, which is why I was not willing to ask anyone face-to-face, and I have seen far more outrageous questions in these boards. But thanks
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No, I do not have any ideas about the other schools
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Honestly, if you're really interested in the answer to this question, I don't think it would be too hard to do a little research.
i.e. Look at the entering class profiles of the schools you would be interested in. Check out the required pre-reqs, avg. GPAs and you'll probably get a good idea of which one is more difficult.
I have no idea because I am not facing your situation, but I would venture a guess of: pod, opt, then vet due to popularity among applicants.
i.e. Look at the entering class profiles of the schools you would be interested in. Check out the required pre-reqs, avg. GPAs and you'll probably get a good idea of which one is more difficult.
I have no idea because I am not facing your situation, but I would venture a guess of: pod, opt, then vet due to popularity among applicants.
i would be more concerned with how difficult the courses of a discipline are.
from what i can remember, OD's graduate with more credit hours than MD's, so it is plausible that optometry school is more difficult than medical school.
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If that's the case why Optometrist has less respect than the MD, in your opinion Gochi??
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Sorry to but in, but if you are looking for easy than you should consider Yale's college of Optosteopodiallopathic vetinary naturalpathic chiropracity. I heard that they accept nearly everyone with a heartbeat.
I hope this doesn't start another Optosteopodiallopathic vetinary naturalpathic chiropracity flame war
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Honestly I think you will find that the easiest admissions is Caribbean medical schools. You can go there and be an MD in America and most of their internships are in the US. I had classmates under me in undergrad who got into these schools with around a 3.0 and no MCAT. They are board certified family docs in the US now.
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oh, come on..it's not THAT easy! 😉
btw op, vet school is pretty tough from what I hear..but as long as your check clears, you can go to optometry to podiatry school..although it sounds like you have no clue what you want to do..
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Harvard Med. School's easy to get into...?
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you're not too bright, are you?
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As I mentioned earlier, I am not using this to decide what field to go into. I have already been accepted to vet school, but I am having some last minute doubts about it. I was wondering if opt and pod were easier than vet because then I would be confident about if I could get in or not. Thank you to those who gave honest opinions without being hypercritical.
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Having doubts is fine and understandable, but the better way to go about dealing with them is to figure out what you WANT then what it takes to get there. If you would be "confident" you could get in based on what opinions are given in an online forum then you would be making a major miscalculation about the way admissions works.
IMHO, the admissions process isn't JUST about the numbers. If it were solely based on numbers, there wouldn't be any purpose of writing essays, LORs, or having interviews. If it is clear to the adcom that you have no idea what you're getting yourself into, you're going to have a more difficult time getting into any professional school.
Preemptive "but I got into vet school, so that's not true" response: You got into vet school presumably because you spent time shadowing and working with vets and probably were involved in organizations pertaining to becoming a vet, in addition to having good grades. If you were to choose to put the same effort in to an optometry or podiatry application, that would be the first step if you decide to change your mind. However, would you be able to properly answer the question "how can we tell that this is what you really want?" during an interview?
Do more shadowing of whatever professions you may be interested in if you don't want to get stuck in a profession you're unsure about. Don't start something (vet, podiatry, opt, pharm, WHATEVER) if you're not sure its what you want to do.
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If everything was a matter of what is easiest, then everyone would be a professional tv watcher.
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Yea but then there would an oversaturation of professional tv watchers which leads to huge debt. Do you want to be watching ~55 hours of tv a week only to be in 200k+ debt because you are too lazy to be working? Don't get me started on the respect issue either. 😉
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Vet by far, opto, then pods
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I am passionate about my tv watching, and won't settle for anything less than HD. (And I guess 55 is a favorite number in this forum)
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Wouldn't it be better to ask yourself what you really WANT to do the rest of your life instead of what is easier to get in to?
based on what?
If that's the case why Optometrist has less respect than the MD, in your opinion Gochi??
well, because od's are not medical doctors.
if you look at the history, several professions such as optometry started to increase the amount of education one needs to become a licensed practitioner. This increase in education leads to the infamous doctoral degree which many idiots worship.
if you want to become a real doc, then getting a pHD degree in some discipline or going to professional grad school for a professional degree other than an MD degree, is basically a waste time, money and effort.
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Define "real doc".
If I understand the rest of your statement, what you're implying is that an MD degree is all encompassing, and prepares you to deal with any specialty in healthcare? Am I understanding you correctly?
MD degree > OD degree in terms of respect is what i am saying.
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Respect from...?
I get what it is you're trying to say. My point is that there is no inherent reason why one degree should be looked upon with any more or less respect. It is PEOPLE who perpetuate this notion that one degree is "better" than the other. MDs and ODs do different things (usually). They generally go to different schools. Graduates are (usually) mutually exclusive. MDs are not gods among men, and simply because they have a broad scope of training and ODs have a narrow scope of training does not mean that one is better than the other. They are different.
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And here we go....
The difference between md's and od's is exactly the reason why MD's are more respected than OD's. Personally, i could care less about the whole respect crap, but when it comes down to dollars, it is very disrespectfull.
Ods are discriminated against from insurance panels, while md's enjoy full reimbursement. If this is not disrespectfull to the od, then what is it?
btw, one would think microsoft would have learned from firefox, but no.
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I am certainly not qualified nor willing to delve into the topic of insurance plans, mostly because I have no idea how the reimbursement is determined and its a headache I'd much rather not deal with now. However, if you're making the claim that ODs and MDs should be making the same amount of money, don't forget about the 4 years of their lives that they're giving up for their residencies. Just read an example curriculum of an ophthalmology residency program.
If I went through that residency program, you better believe that I'd be expecting some sort of monetary benefit at the end of the day.
And what are you talking about with microsoft and firefox?
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Uh... Blow me?
Yeah, I dont have many examples of insurance reimbursements, but it has been a popular topic and have learned what I can from it. It seems as if OD's are not reimbursed sufficiently, because they are not "medical" doctors.
It would be fair to pay the md a higher salary, through examination fees and whatnot, but to reduce the reimbursement of an OD, for the same examination, just because he/she is an OD, and not an MD is grossly unfair.
Don't residents receive some sort of income while in residency?
microsoft ie= no emebeded speeelling corerector; firefox= embedded spelling correcter.
Yeah they do, but not very much. In my area I believe its around 50k (just going off the top of my head, dont wanna look for links).
Hmmm... i guess here comes your comment of "oh my, thats almost as much as an optometrist " lol
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I can't find anything solid on the reimbursement rates either. I think the higher salary is because they can do surgical procedures and the volume of expensive surgeries would net a higher income.
Can an any practicing OD answer the reimbursement question? Scenario, Two patients need glasses patient A goes to OD patient B goes to OMD, obviously they can charge different amounts for the refraction or whatever...But does any insurance company reimburse the OMD more for a refraction simply because he is "Captain OMD"? (I know insurance companies vary, but just in general.)
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This varies from region to region throughout the country but where I practice, the overwhelming majority of plans reimburse the same to ODs as they do to OMDs. This was true in all parts of the country I practice in. The difference was that some plans wouldn't allow ODs to participate at all unless the plan had a "routine wellness exam" benefit.
FOr those plans that did allow ODs to participate, reimbursement was almost always the same for ODs as it was for ophthalmology.
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And Ophthalmologists make most of their money via surgery, not through eye exams.
Thank you Commando, for confirming my hypothesis.
Thank you Commando, for confirming my hypothesis.
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i'm not really sure about vet, but i think podiatry and optometry schools are about the same to get into. both schools accept people with just a decent gpa (for example, you can have a 3.3 overall gpa and a 3.17 science gpa & may still get into both). i would say podiatry is just a bit harder because the MCAT is needed to get in, and the MCAT is harder than the OAT. however, there are some pod schools (i think 2 of them) that accept the DAT, which too is easier than the MCAT.. so i think they're both equally easy/challenging (depending on gpa, test scores, ec activities, etc) to get into
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From what I've heard from countless people:
Podiatry - Easiest (cause it's newer, 3.0gpa with a 21 mcat)
Optometry - Middle
Vet - Hardest (not sure why, but some say a 3.7gpa is competitive. Yikes!)
Podiatry - Easiest (cause it's newer, 3.0gpa with a 21 mcat)
Optometry - Middle
Vet - Hardest (not sure why, but some say a 3.7gpa is competitive. Yikes!)
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I find it interesting that the easiest one makes the most money.
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