ECs??????

[NRAI2001]

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Can u only list medically related ECs that u did in undergrad and beyond, or can u also include volunteering...etc that u did in High School?

I voluntered at the hospital near my house for 3 years in hs and I also worked for their kids outreach program that presented to Jr. High kids for 2 years.

 

[OSUdoc08]

Can u only list medically related ECs that u did in undergrad and beyond, or can u also include volunteering...etc that u did in High School?

I voluntered at the hospital near my house for 3 years in hs and I also worked for their kids outreach program that presented to Jr. High kids for 2 years.

No, you can't include high school.

 

[dbuck64]

Can u only list medically related ECs that u did in undergrad and beyond, or can u also include volunteering...etc that u did in High School?

I voluntered at the hospital near my house for 3 years in hs and I also worked for their kids outreach program that presented to Jr. High kids for 2 years.

I don't think its necessarily a can't, I just won't. Remember high school was indeed a long time ago. You may not be perceived positively if you paint a stellar picture of yourself years ago and a so-so picture of yourself now - the present YOU should far overshadow the past you.

Also allow me to state that I am currently in the application process myself, I only have had 1 interview and 1 acceptance. Take my opinion with a grain of salt.

dbuck64

 

[Sundarban1]

Can u only list medically related ECs that u did in undergrad and beyond, or can u also include volunteering...etc that u did in High School?

I voluntered at the hospital near my house for 3 years in hs and I also worked for their kids outreach program that presented to Jr. High kids for 2 years.

Experience is experience as far as I'm concerned. I see no reason why you should exclude that, especially if it's medically related. I don't see where it says only include expereince from college on? That does not make sense.

 

[OSUdoc08]

Experience is experience as far as I'm concerned. I see no reason why you should exclude that, especially if it's medically related. I don't see where it says only include expereince from college on? That does not make sense.

It isn't professional to include your high school experience.

You wouldn't put your high school extracurriculars on a curriculum vitae, as it is considered unprofessional. Why would you treat this any differently?

 

[FrogE7]

It isn't professional to include your high school experience.

You wouldn't put your high school extracurriculars on a curriculum vitae, as it is considered unprofessional. Why would you treat this any differently?

Good point.

In my opinion, high school is a far reach. Surely your current activities over shadow the measly four hours a week of candy striping you did in high school.

And do you ever wonder why they never ask for your high school grades? 😉

 

[djnels01]

It isn't professional to include your high school experience.

You wouldn't put your high school extracurriculars on a curriculum vitae, as it is considered unprofessional. Why would you treat this any differently?

His delivery isn't the most eloquent, but the message is correct. OSUdoc's right, don't include high school activities.

Did you continue your EC activities in college? If so, then include them. If not, why didn't you? Maybe you could state in an essay that "my love of doing _________, fostered in high school, continued/increased during my years at _________ college/univ."

To rely on activities from high school would not be in the best interest of medical schools. They need a "current" picture of you, someone who will be representing their school if they accept you. People go through many transitions/changes in college, so rarely are you the same person you were in high school anyway...

Bad example: A star high school football player (captain, all conference, etc.) who really wants to make it into professional leagues would not do so on the merit of high school sports accomplishments, but on what he did in College. NFL football teams wouldn't care what he did in high school. But if he was successful in the college scene that would catch an NFL team's attention.

Replace football, football teams, and coaches with scholastics/involvement, medical schools, and admissions committees, and well I think you get the jizzt of it...

I hope that was somewhat relevant-

 

[Donvb]

Experience is experience as far as I'm concerned. I see no reason why you should exclude that, especially if it's medically related. I don't see where it says only include expereince from college on? That does not make sense.

If you focus on Highschool experiences, this would make you an outstanding, "This would be a great re-applicant next year," person... Focusing on the distant past shows that recently you haven't been doing enough... Also, it portray's immaturity, and the last thing you want the admissions committee to think is that your not mature enough for med school...

Only use your highschool experiences in the context of how they helped give you a foundation for all of the great things you did during college. But this should only be a blip on your EC's map...

Good luck! 😎

 

[Sundarban1]

Whats the difference if I worked in a hospital when I was 16 or 25? I realize HS experiences are not relevant on a CV, but this is his application correct? Certainly people can and do comment on any experiences they have had from childhood on related to healthcare.

 

[OSUdoc08]

Whats the difference if I worked in a hospital when I was 16 or 25? I realize HS experiences are not relevant on a CV, but this is his application correct? Certainly people can and do comment on any experiences they have had from childhood on related to healthcare.[/QUOTE]

That's what your personal statement is for.

Putting blankets on patients at age 16 is way different than starting IV's or performing CPR at age 23 in the hospital.

Besides, they want to hear about your recent past, not your distant past. The key is---did you keep up with it when you were under the demands of a college curriculum? Obviously high school isn't as time demanding.

 

[Donvb]

Whats the difference if I worked in a hospital when I was 16 or 25? I realize HS experiences are not relevant on a CV, but this is his application correct?

Should you also refer to your outstanding High School GPA and SAT to bask in your glory as a pre-med applicant... Don't think so... This would be irrelevant to WHO YOU ARE KNOW as an applicant, just like what you did when in highschool...

 

[griffyn81]

Can u only list medically related ECs that u did in undergrad and beyond, or can u also include volunteering...etc that u did in High School?

I voluntered at the hospital near my house for 3 years in hs and I also worked for their kids outreach program that presented to Jr. High kids for 2 years.

I think it depends on the school. On my MSU secondary they specifically asked you to include high school activities in big bold print, so I did. On other secondaries I didn't include them because they weren't specifically asked for.

 

[NRAI2001]

I think it depends on the school. On my MSU secondary they specifically asked you to include high school activities in big bold print, so I did. On other secondaries I didn't include them because they weren't specifically asked for.

A few apps didn't specifiy undergrad and onwards. I think that ECs are different than grades, sat,... etc bc they develope your character and it is our experiences that help to define us. Health care is especially relevant because thats the field that we will be persuing. I don't think someones 1200 or 1400 will define them in anyway, unless if they wanted to become a Kaplan teacher.

My hs classes were almost as difficult as my college were. I did do less volunteering, clinical experience in college, bc i had done so much in HS.

I have been volunteering at ucsf for the last 4 or 5 months and no volunteer anywhere starts an IV or anything of that nature.

 

[FrogE7]

A few apps didn't specifiy undergrad and onwards. I think that ECs are different than grades, sat,... etc bc they develope your character and it is our experiences that help to define us. Health care is especially relevant because thats the field that we will be persuing. I don't think someones 1200 or 1400 will define them in anyway, unless if they wanted to become a Kaplan teacher.

My hs classes were almost as difficult as my college were. I did do less volunteering, clinical experience in college, bc i had done so much in HS.

I have been volunteering at ucsf for the last 4 or 5 months and no volunteer anywhere starts an IV or anything of that nature.

Well you asked for our opinions and we offered them to you. I conclude that the majority of us suggested that you do not list high school activities. We were looking out for your best interest. I know I am an extremely different person from the time I was in high school. I volunteered all of 9th grade at Bon Secur Hospital, every Sunday from 9am to Noon. In 11th grade I volunteered at St. Joseph's Hospital in the Urgent Care Unit. Through high school I was also in the National Honors Society, where volunteer activities were routinely performed. But to be honest, I laugh at those activities now. They are so long ago, and insignificant, that I would feel embarrassed listing them as extra-curriculars. However, it seems as if you had already made up your mind. So what was the point of that? I guess in the end, you should go with your good judgment.

I wish you the best of luck. 👍

 

[NRAI2001]

Well you asked for our opinions and we offered them to you. I conclude that the majority of us suggested that you do not list high school activities. We were looking out for your best interest. I know I am an extremely different person from the time I was in high school. I volunteered all of 9th grade at Bon Secur Hospital, every Sunday from 9am to Noon. In 11th grade I volunteered at St. Joseph's Hospital in the Urgent Care Unit. Through high school I was also in the National Honors Society, where volunteer activities were routinely performed. But to be honest, I laugh at those activities now. They are so long ago, and insignificant, that I would feel embarrassed listing them as extra-curriculars. However, it seems as if you had already made up your mind. So what was the point of that? I guess in the end, you should go with your good judgment.

I wish you the best of luck. 👍

I didnt make up my mind, i was just contributing more to the discussion.

 

[Sundarban1]

Should you also refer to your outstanding High School GPA and SAT to bask in your glory as a pre-med applicant... Don't think so... This would be irrelevant to WHO YOU ARE KNOW as an applicant, just like what you did when in highschool...

GPA and SAT are not EC's. Everyone knows you dont include highschool experience on your CV. But if you have medically related experience you should talk about what is relevant on your medical school application.

 

[DODO]

Ok I personally would not put my EC's/Honors from H.S. for the reasons stated above, but if you are unsure just call the admissions counselor and ask. Then you will know for sure instead of going around and around on the issue. GL.

 

[FrogE7]

GPA and SAT are not EC's. Everyone knows you dont include highschool experience on your CV. But if you have medically related experience you should talk about what is relevant on your medical school application.

Here is something to think about: Is there a reason why Interflex programs (programs where high school students enter the fast-track route into medical school at their undergraduate institution) are fast declining across the US? Is there a reason people in this country do not go straight into a career such as medicine, directly after high school?

I believe it is because the teen-age years are so unstable and unpredictable, that one can not really judge some one's true character at that age. There is no way a 15 year old can know any thing about medicine. Even us pre-meders know little of what we are about to encounter. So unless you were inventing a new vaccine in Guatemala, I suggest refraining from listing your high school activities.