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EL-MSN vs PA
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I'm guessing cost of attendance is about the same. it's 2 yrs of grad school either way and neither is cheap.
pa school averages 27 months full time and you can't work in school. my program was 117 credits in 27 months. focus on medical sciences similar to parts of medschool.
many np programs are structured to allow one to work part time during a 2 yr program. some science but more social issues covered.
pa's overall make more than np's but that is because we tend to work more in specialty and hospital settings. if you compare the pay of a pa and np in the same job the pay is typically the same.
both options are good. really depends what you want to do with your future.
pa's dominate some fields(em, ortho, surg, )
np's dominate some fields(nicu, psych, obgyn)
both do primary care.
both allow the option for combined degrees( pa, mph, pa, pharmd, pa, phd, etc)
pa has one potential advantage in that you could later do a bridge program PA to DO in 3 yrs. np's can't do that.
pa school averages 27 months full time and you can't work in school. my program was 117 credits in 27 months. focus on medical sciences similar to parts of medschool.
many np programs are structured to allow one to work part time during a 2 yr program. some science but more social issues covered.
pa's overall make more than np's but that is because we tend to work more in specialty and hospital settings. if you compare the pay of a pa and np in the same job the pay is typically the same.
both options are good. really depends what you want to do with your future.
pa's dominate some fields(em, ortho, surg, )
np's dominate some fields(nicu, psych, obgyn)
both do primary care.
both allow the option for combined degrees( pa, mph, pa, pharmd, pa, phd, etc)
pa has one potential advantage in that you could later do a bridge program PA to DO in 3 yrs. np's can't do that.
...pa school averages 27 months full time and you can't work in school.
just curious; I've heard this for years, but have known many RNs and RTs that have done PA school and med school, and some have worked part time without problems.
I know one guy who is an RN and owns his own business, and is a 2nd year resident.
Is this some sort of 'rule' that some/most programs have?
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deleted6669
just curious; I've heard this for years, but have known many RNs and RTs that have done PA school and med school, and some have worked part time without problems.
I know one guy who is an RN and owns his own business, and is a 2nd year resident.
Is this some sort of 'rule' that some/most programs have?
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there are a few(like 5 out of 160) 3 yr part time pa programs which allow one to work a bit.
schools discourage work but some folks do sneak in some shifts here and there. taking an academic load of 60 units/yr makes finding time for work tough unless you have a job you can study at like paramedic at a slow station, etc class pretty much runs 8-5 m-f with exams every week and time in the hospital outside of class so work = nights/weekends only under the best of scenarios.
just curious; I've heard this for years, but have known many RNs and RTs that have done PA school and med school, and some have worked part time without problems.
I know one guy who is an RN and owns his own business, and is a 2nd year resident.
Is this some sort of 'rule' that some/most programs have?
I'm an RN in PA school. I worked prn. I would work between testing blocks and on breaks. Nothing significant, and I certainly wouldn't be able to work full time (12s x 3) or consistently.
Our school policy is that we can't work, but there are 2-3 of us that have continued to work some.
Our schedule certainly doesn't allow us to work full time as NP school does.
For people who hold non-nursing Bachelor's degree, there are two options to choose from.
1. EL-MSN, family NP
2. PA, (MSPA)
Cost of attendance, years of study, future pay. It seems PA cost less, less study time
and possible higher pay? Any comments?
Unlike some of the respondents, you're choices (like mine) are a bit different. For those that enter a PA or NP program from healthcare i.e. a BSN RN, they may have an easier time due to prior experience and being able to work part-time during either program (other professions may not have part-time options, night shifts, etc.)
You have a 3rd option that you have not considered. An Accelerated Bachelor of Science in Nursing (ABSN). Samuel Merritt has a 12 month program (shortest in the U.S.).
They also have a ELMSN NP program, at 12 months you'll have the RN and can do the rest of the program part-time (2-2.5yrs) while working full-time.
PA programs are usually a full 27 months and I've yet to see any part-time option. In nursing programs one can earn the BSN or MSN part-time.
If you have a family and are the primary provider for your family, you may find 27 months without an income to be quite a challenge. RN programs have more pathways and once you're working full-time as an RN you'll find many options to obtain the BSN, MSN or PhD.
If at that time you decided to go for a PA, you may even be able to work part-time as an RN during the PA program. For others that come from non-nursing backgrounds, that may be more of a challenge (unless they're cops or firemen).
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deleted6669
as I mentioned above there are something like 5-7 part time pa programs out of 160+.PA programs are usually a full 27 months and I've yet to see any part-time option.).
you split the first yr into 2 yrs and do the 3rd yr as a full time yr with the regular 2nd yr students.
