EM programs that accept Canadian students

[leviathan]

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Hey guys,

Anyone aware whether or not it is difficult for a Canadian medical student to match into a US program? Would I need to write the USMLE board exams, or would the MCCQE (Canadian exams) qualify? Our EM program up here is 5 years and extremely competitive to match into, as there are only a few spots that are available every year.

 

[EctopicFetus]

Dont know but the PD @ USC is Canadian.. Dr Swadron, perhaps after the match you can email him.

 

[EctopicFetus]

I am 99% sure you would have to take the USMLE..

 

[leviathan]

Dont know but the PD @ USC is Canadian.. Dr Swadron, perhaps after the match you can email him.

Cool. Thanks, EF. I guess nobody else has any idea.

 

[EctopicFetus]

Just to flush out my reasoning on why you would have to take the USMLE on top of the Canadian exam..

the USMLE is the US Medical Licensing Exam.. so I would imagine you would have to take it to practice medicine in the US, much like the FMGs do..

 

[dlung]

Yale interviews a lot of FMGs... there was one Canadian on my interview day last year...

 

[leviathan]

Just to flush out my reasoning on why you would have to take the USMLE on top of the Canadian exam..

the USMLE is the US Medical Licensing Exam.. so I would imagine you would have to take it to practice medicine in the US, much like the FMGs do..

That's true, but some regions in Canada are taking steps to grant equivalency of the USMLE to the MCCQE. That way, US applicants can also apply to Canadian residencies without having to shell out $$$ and time for our exams.

 

[Sheerstress]

Dont know but the PD @ USC is Canadian.. Dr Swadron, perhaps after the match you can email him.

The USC chair, Dr. Newton, as well as their ultrasound director are also both Canadian.

 

[BKN]

That's true, but some regions in Canada are taking steps to grant equivalency of the USMLE to the MCCQE. That way, US applicants can also apply to Canadian residencies without having to shell out $$$ and time for our exams.

Lev, when your turn comes, I want an USMLE so I can compare you with the rest.

 

[EctopicFetus]

Yes they are @ USC I think though Swadron would have a better perspective since the is the one who deals with the stuff. Yeah USC is very Canadian heavy..

Of course BKN is always a good person to listen to.. seems like he might now a thing or two 😉

 

[leviathan]

Lev, when your turn comes, I want an USMLE so I can compare you with the rest.

Yeah, I understand why the USMLE is in place, but thought I'd see whether or not any particular schools / (or is it a state thing) permit this for a conversion chart between the two exams. Anyhow, when the time comes, I'm sure it will not be too much effort to write another licensing exam.

 

[EctopicFetus]

oh.. spending 8 hours in front of a computer is a lot of effort when you really have to do it. Also another $425 down the toilet stinks...For the Canadians it is a little more like $550 canadian...😀

 

[BKN]

Yeah, I understand why the USMLE is in place, but thought I'd see whether or not any particular schools / (or is it a state thing) permit this for a conversion chart between the two exams. Anyhow, when the time comes, I'm sure it will not be too much effort to write another licensing exam.

I've got a comlex 1 to usmle 1 and a comlex 2 to usmle 2 regression model that I'm goiing to try to publish.But I haven;t seen any data between the Canadian exam and the USMLE. Were there a valid model, I would use it.

bn

 

[Flankstripe]

The MCCQE Part 1/LMCC Part 1 is not written until April/May of your Med 4 year, well after both the US and Canadian matches have run. If you intend to match to the US from a Canadian med school, the USMLE Step 1 can be considered mandatory, since you'll have no other board scores at that time.

For that matter, it would be foolhardy not to take Steps 2 and 3 as well, since it's mandatory for the H1B visa if your program offers it, and is a guaranteed path to a permanent state licence (if your state doesn't recognize the MCCQE/LMCC's as equivalent to the USMLE's) in case you have any designs on moonlighting during residency or staying in the US to practice.

The MCCQE Part 1/LMCC Part 1 is generally rated by most Canadian med students as significantly harder than the USMLE Step 2, which is its closest equivalent. For that matter, many/most Royal College exams seem to be harder anecdotally than their American specialty board exam equivalents.