EM to Pain

[sandiego1]

Hello, I am an ER doctor 3 years out of residency looking to get into pain. I am at the beginning of this journey and was hoping others might have some helpful advice. I have one research paper from residency that was pain related but I've been told that I would need more and with me being out of training now I would not be able to get an ACGME away rotation because I am not covered by ACGME insurance. This would make me less competitive for ACGME programs where I fear I am already at a disadvantage being an ER doctor out of training with difficulty getting involved in research.

As such I am looking into non-ACGME programs but I have only found a few online and I have not been able to find any kind of list of these programs.

I was wondering if anyone else has been in this situation and been successful and if anyone has advice in learning more about non-ACGME programs.

Thanks

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[Baron Samedi]

Certainly you have cases from your own EM practice you can write up. You don't have to have large multi site RCTs.

Research is only one metric. Even having a single paper is likely more than some folks you are competing against. Do you have other glaring deficiencies in your application? If not, I don't think you are in as disadvantageous of a situation as you think.

 

[Ferrismonk]

I would think you can also just buy your own insurance for rotations if you prefer.

 

[GatorCHOMPions]

I was an EM attending out longer than you, matched into Pain a couple years ago, and am now board certified working full time Pain. Feel free to PM me.

 

[Agast]

NASS offers their own interventional fellowship program route

https://www.spine.org/Portals/0/Assets/Downloads/Education/Match-Opportunities.pdf

 

[TrailRun]

Hello, I am an ER doctor 3 years out of residency looking to get into pain. I am at the beginning of this journey and was hoping others might have some helpful advice. I have one research paper from residency that was pain related but I've been told that I would need more and with me being out of training now I would not be able to get an ACGME away rotation because I am not covered by ACGME insurance. This would make me less competitive for ACGME programs where I fear I am already at a disadvantage being an ER doctor out of training with difficulty getting involved in research.

As such I am looking into non-ACGME programs but I have only found a few online and I have not been able to find any kind of list of these programs.

I was wondering if anyone else has been in this situation and been successful and if anyone has advice in learning more about non-ACGME programs.

Thanks

I can’t offer too much advice since I’m in the same boat, but I think coming from EM the key is to have a compelling reason as to why you want to do pain (as opposed to escaping the ER). It’s a hard question to answer if you can’t do a rotation, but luckily I was able to shadow someone so that would probably be the first step. Hopefully since the anesthesia job market is so robust pain may be a little less competitive than it’s been previously. Best of luck!

 

[Ducttape]

What specialties are NASS fellowships open to?

PMR.

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you can also come to the dark side and do an anesthesiology residency.



as a double boarded physician, i get invited to junkets and wild parties and terrific trips across the world!!!!! just dont become a board member for Devlin-MacGregor...

 

[lobelsteve]

PMR.

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you can also come to the dark side and do an anesthesiology residency.



as a double boarded physician, i get invited to junkets and wild parties and terrific trips across the world!!!!! just dont become a board member for Devlin-MacGregor...