EMTP to CCRN

[Gatewayhoward]

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I'm a paramedic in Arizona and I'm thinking of becoming a CCRN/EMTP before going to med school in the future. I'm not interested in working in a hospital unitil I'm a physician. Are there any medic to RN bridge that goes straight to CCRN?

 

[rn29306]

That's impossible. CCRN requires 1750 hours of beside nursing care, in a unit setting, for you to even sit for the CCRN.

There is no way they are going to consider pre-hospital time as bedside time.

 

[fiznat]

hahaha well I guess that clears that up!! lol

 

[niko327]

That's impossible. CCRN requires 1750 hours of beside nursing care, in a unit setting, for you to even sit for the CCRN.

There is no way they are going to consider pre-hospital time as bedside time.

The above is a good post, but I think it begs an even deeper question.
Many can clearly see the parallels of critical care paramedic work with the work of the CCRN, but that similarity will never be recognized by the nursing profession. And that's fine because that is what a good profession does to protect its professional interests; it actively limits free access to it's profession by outsiders and set up hurdles that everyone must pass to become a member. That's why nursing is a much higher paid profession than EMS, and far more advancement oppportunity. EMS should do the exact same thing. Get rid of these RN to Paramedic challenge programs, set up uniform professional national licensing, make the EMT-P a Bachelors Degree Program and reduce volunteerism. How great would it be to have a lobby as powerful as nursing.

Sorry, I did not mean to take over this thread, so I think I'll start a new one.

 

[Gatewayhoward]

The problem is that I never wanted to become a nurse. I have been hearing talks of making the critical care paramedic thing an additional cert added on to the EMT-P. And someday having more and more ground EMT-P's as critical care medics. But I'm growing impatient and thought I could maybe just bite the bullet and become an RN strictly for critical care along with my EMT-P cert(and degree). It's hard for EMS to progress when even the other medics on the road don't like the idea of getting a degree for EMS.

 

[deleted6669]

"EMS should do the exact same thing. Get rid of these RN to Paramedic challenge programs, set up uniform professional national licensing, make the EMT-P a Bachelors Degree Program and reduce volunteerism. "

agree- there are a few 2 week rn to emt-p programs out there now and that is ridiculous. I can see maybe a 6 month bridge program crediting a bit of hospital clinicals, basic a+p, etc but there is no way a nursing home or floor nurse could work as a field medic in a 911 system after 2 weeks. you couldn't even have them work safely as an er nurse after 2 weeks and that is basically what the modern medic is, an er nurse with additional field responsibilities.

 

[viostorm]

I'm a paramedic in Arizona and I'm thinking of becoming a CCRN/EMTP before going to med school in the future. I'm not interested in working in a hospital unitil I'm a physician. Are there any medic to RN bridge that goes straight to CCRN?

This topic of becoming an RN/Paramedic before med school has already been beaten to death in this forum, but I'll ask ... why would you want to do this? Go to med school!

If med school is your goal, why would you want to be RN before? It is like 2 years of school!

If you are a paramedic already, the CCEMT-P course by UMBC is pretty good and will likely satiate your curiousity for critical care. I have also taken the PNCCT course and loved it.

http://ehs.umbc.edu/CE/CCEMT-P/

The only reason to become a CCRN over CCEMT-P is for a career move and to get more money. If you want to go to medical school this is a moot point.

 

[Gatewayhoward]

You know what, I don't even know. My heart's more toward med school. I'm just bored cause I don't know how to work 911 around school, so I'm working interfacility and it's not challenging enough. But those are all my issues.

 

[viostorm]

You know what, I don't even know. My heart's more toward med school. I'm just bored cause I don't know how to work 911 around school, so I'm working interfacility and it's not challenging enough. But those are all my issues.

Bored? What o-chem isn't providing you enough challenge? 🙂

The CCEMT-P course is pretty good and offered across the country.

What part of the country are you in?

Maybe one of us can recommend a 911 service and get you some contacts.

 

[Gatewayhoward]

I'm in Arizona and the only CCEMT-P's are flight medics. I used to work around some medics out of University of Maryland hospital and they were the ones telling me about how someday medics will do more ground critical care transport.

 

[rn29306]

If you are a paramedic already, the CCEMT-P course by UMBC is pretty good and will likely satiate your curiousity for critical care. I have also taken the PNCCT course and loved it.

This course opened up doors for me also. It seemed easier for the RNs than the medics though. Perhaps not, but just my opinion.

I worked on a Mobile ICU truck in Atlanta after this course. We had it all on that truck:
- On-board DataScope IAPB
- Flip down plasma TV and DVD for those Ahole cardiac patients to keep them chill
- Just about every drug on our truck that was in our hospital pharmacy.

If any of you get a chance to work this class out, kinda $$$, but is beginning to become well-recognized in the field of EMS as a progression.