ENT vs. Dentistry

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Burrell College of Osteopathic Medicine
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Xian Ping

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How does ENT compare with dentistry in terms of autonomy, private practice, lifestyle, salary, and the need for business sense. I really like the good salary and hours of dentistry. I also have a passion for business and am really interested in creating my own private practice and expanding it. Would I be able to do these things successfully in ENT?
 
good salary and hours compared to what? Have you checked the salary of dentists?

"According to the BLS, dentists earned a median salary of $146,340 in 2013. The best-paid earned more than $187,999, while the lowest-paid earned less than $72,240. Dentists who work in private offices are paid particularly well, but so are those who work alongside other health practitioners."


ENT....

"Staffing firm Merritt Hawkins reports in its own annual survey that in 2011 the average salary offered to otolaryngologists was $359,000. The survey reported salaries ranging from $230,000 at the low end of the scale to $500,000 at the high end."


Where are you at in your education? How about shadowing or meeting with a few dentists and a few ENT's for a better picture.
 
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You didn't say anything about the hours. Also does dentistry have more room for improvement in salary if you have a good business acumen?
 
And when I say dentistry I don't mean just dentists, I mean the specialties as well like endodontists and oral surgeons so throw those numbers out big boy.
 
Xian Ping said:
You didn't say anything about the hours. Also does dentistry have more room for improvement in salary if you have a good business acumen?
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http://medstudentcouncil.osu.edu/blog/2014/02/why-i-chose-my-specialty-otolaryngology/

Here, there's a link to an ENT's reasonings on choosing otolarynology

Also, this is the allopathic forum, there is a dentistry forum where you can learn more about dentistry.

I will say that even with good business acumen specialists probably still make more than dentists. For example an opthamologist who has associates working under him, generating passive income, working with optometrists for referrals could easily pull in 7 figures. However, this isn't going to happen overnight or ever for most optho's.


*** Oral surgeon average salary in the United States is $255,665 so 50% of the people who perform the job of Surgeon - Oral in the United Sates are expected to make less than $255,665.

Source: HR Reported data as of April 2015****


that's still less than ENT
 
But look at net salary, ENT probably has to give the majority of it up for malpractice insurance, loans that exponentially grew during residency, and overhead, whereas endodontists and oral surgeons don't, ya dig?
 
Xian Ping said:
But look at net salary, ENT probably has to give the majority of it up for malpractice insurance, loans that exponentially grew during residency, and overhead, whereas endodontists and oral surgeons don't, ya dig?
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Since you keep mentioning having a private practice, I assure you, you will have overhead in either field. Dental schools cost about the same as medical schools, so unless your parents are paying you will have a similar amount of debt. I just did a quick search (not that interested in dentistry, ya dig?) and I see that malpractice coverage does exist for dentists.
 
The passive aggressiveness in your post is real lol. The difference in the loans are that in dentistry you start working earlier and your residency isn't as long so you can pay it off before it starts growing rapidly. This isn't possibly due to the length of residency in medicine. And I am sure it does exist in dentistry but I have heard it is not as bad as it is for doctors. Also the overhead in dentistry is less from what I've heard....ya dig?
 
Xian Ping said:
The passive aggressiveness in your post is real lol. The difference in the loans are that in dentistry you start working earlier and your residency isn't as long so you can pay it off before it starts growing rapidly. This isn't possibly due to the length of residency in medicine. And I am sure it does exist in dentistry but I have heard it is not as bad as it is for doctors. Also the overhead in dentistry is less from what I've heard....ya dig?
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I'm confused as to your purpose in the allopathic medicine thread. I don't care to be "schooled" in dentistry. Its hard to compare fields that are entirely different which is what you want us to do and you refuse to even use google search for yourself. You can read that link I gave you where a physician describes ENT in detail and his reasons for choosing it. That's all I got friend.
 
My dad is an ENT. For private practice you are going to be working at least 80 hours a week for the first few years. Eventually things will mellow down, you will also have to be constantly expanding/growing or you will die. Start hiring PAs to do the easy stuff and add in some Allergies/Botox in the mix and you could be successful. It is very hard to start up an ENT private practice without the right mentors, there are non-competive agreements and all sorts of other things you don't really learn until you do it. My dad also liked doing call for the ER (His fellowship was reconstructive surgery if I remember correctly) so he worked the hard ER cases if needed. Location wise if you want to increase your chances of success you will either have to buy out a practice in a big city or start your own in a rural area that has a good amount of wealthy patients. If you start up in a rural area mostly on medicaid there's no way you'll survive.

One thing that you also need to remember is ENT is extremely competitive, you cant just decide mid-3rd you're gonna go for it. It takes a lot of dedication and like plastics it's a small community so you need to network.
 
wiggitywack12 said:
I'm confused as to your purpose in the allopathic medicine thread. I don't care to be "schooled" in dentistry. Its hard to compare fields that are entirely different which is what you want us to do and you refuse to even use google search for yourself. You can read that link I gave you where a physician describes ENT in detail and his reasons for choosing it. That's all I got friend.
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Actually I have used google...friend
 
tiedyeddog said:
Deciding to go to medical school for one field and one field alone is a recipe for disaster.

What are your grades like, OP?
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Im a junior pre-health and have been offered early admission to both dental and medical school.
 
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lol, I'm afraid to say because you seem really interested in me all of a sudden friend. I don't want you to start trying to visit my dorm when I'm sleeping
 
Xian Ping said:
lol, I'm afraid to say because you seem really interested in me all of a sudden friend. I don't want you to start trying to visit my dorm when I'm sleeping
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You're trolling, you haven't been accepted to anything. You took both the DAT and the MCAT?

What are you going to do to preoccupy your time once you get banned? Maybe you should troll /r/medicalschool on reddit.
 
tiedyeddog said:
You're trolling, you haven't been accepted to anything. You took both the DAT and the MCAT?

What are you going to do to preoccupy your time once you get banned? Maybe you should troll /r/medicalschool on reddit.
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Uh oh I struck a nerve. Look you are obviously sexually frustrated and are trying to take it out on the new guy.
 
Xian Ping said:
But look at net salary, ENT probably has to give the majority of it up for malpractice insurance, loans that exponentially grew during residency, and overhead, whereas endodontists and oral surgeons don't, ya dig?
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My dad is an endodontist. He easily clears well over all the average numbers posted in here.
But. We have multiple offices. He is sole owner with no partners. There are ten other people who work for him.
He still works a six day week and despite having coverage and no real need for him to work as much, refuses to scale back.
There is a metric **** ton of money to be made in dentistry if you are smart about it and are a good businessperson....

For now I'm just a minion ><
 
fancymylotus said:
My dad is an endodontist. He easily clears well over all the average numbers posted in here.
But. We have multiple offices. He is sole owner with no partners. There are ten other people who work for him.
He still works a six day week and despite having coverage and no real need for him to work as much, refuses to scale back.
There is a metric **** ton of money to be made in dentistry if you are smart about it and are a good businessperson....

For now I'm just a minion ><
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An OMFS lectured us the other day, and he was like "I got paid $5000 to rebuild this face complete with a new mandible, but the oral surgeon got about $2000/implant. I make good money, but that guy laughs all the way to the bank."
 
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