EPIC vs. Cerner

[jjcayce123]

I took a job at a hospital that recently "upgraded" to Cerner from McKesson. I never used McKesson but my god Cerner is absolute garbage. I came from a hospital that used EPIC which was amazing. Did anyone else go from EPIC to Cerner and if so are there any aspects of Cerner that you actually like better than EPIC?

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[njac]

Cerner and Epic are only as good as their build. I’m currently using a garbage version of Epic - if I hadn’t used an excellent version elsewhere and knew what to ask from IT it would be horrific.

What are you missing in Cerner now? Believe it or not I like that the orders don’t verify until you hit the “complete” - sometimes you come across an interaction or an issue in the middle of a stream of orders and it gives you a chance for a quick double check.


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[gwarm01]

Cerner and Epic are only as good as their build. I’m currently using a garbage version of Epic - if I hadn’t used an excellent version elsewhere and knew what to ask from IT it would be horrific.

What are you missing in Cerner now? Believe it or not I like that the orders don’t verify until you hit the “complete” - sometimes you come across an interaction or an issue in the middle of a stream of orders and it gives you a chance for a quick double check.

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Many people don't realize this. Two hospitals using the same EHR can have a drastically different user experience based on how the system was conceptualized, designed, and implemented. It takes strong stewardship and deliberate planning to do it right, and even then there are always going to be quirks.

You make a good point about Cerner's order filing system. I find it annoying when I am trying to test a medication build, but thinking back it was always frustrating when I would verify something in Epic, realize there was a mistake, then have to cancel that order, track down the labels, re-enter etc.

 

[jjcayce123]

It must be the build then...everything with epic was so clean and easy. Everything was in one screen and easy to navigate. Cerner is always popping up new windows and having to go back and forth between med manager and power chart is a complete pain. Not to mention it takes a millions clicks to do a damn thing

 

[jjcayce123]

A pharmacist that I worked with who was PRN at my old hospital to keep state retirement also worked at a very large academic hospital that used Cerner. When I told him that I was leaving and that I would be on Cerner he related EPIC to driving a brand new Mercedes and Cerner was like driving a used Chevy Malibu.

 

[projektreverb]

The hospital I did all of my rotations at was one of the original EPIC hospitals. Loved using EPIC, granted I was only a student and there was a lot of things I couldn’t do.

 

[jjcayce123]

consider yourself blessed for that experience.

 

[njac]

I don’t disagree that Med manager vs powerchart is annoying.

However, the hospital where I worked that used McKesson required 5+ pieces of software to get the same info (all with different password requirements and expiration times...), so it’s all relative.


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[jjcayce123]

I never used mckesson....cerner sucks...and its visual appeal is like windows 95

 

[jjcayce123]

Cerner is terrible. End of story

 

[jjcayce123]

face it...cerner is the broke ass old system

 

[gwarm01]

Cerner's administrative tools are pretty clunky and unintuitive. Whoever designed them has a poor grasp on how humans function.

It's still better than Meditech.