epidural and syphilis

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Clinical question for you. Young lady presents for repeat c/s (3 prior). Prenatal care has not occurred until about 36 weeks. Determined to have syphilis (+RPR followed by +TrepIgG). Treatment is IM pencillin for three weeks. Patient has received two of three doses prior to c section but not the third. Good airway. NPO> 14 hrs. What would you do?
 
GA.

antibiotic resistance exists. assuming your pt is in a latent phase i wouldn't needle her neuraxis until blood tests have been proven negative.
 
Clinical question for you. Young lady presents for repeat c/s (3 prior). Prenatal care has not occurred until about 36 weeks. Determined to have syphilis (+RPR followed by +TrepIgG). Treatment is IM pencillin for three weeks. Patient has received two of three doses prior to c section but not the third. Good airway. NPO> 14 hrs. What would you do?

i also don't know why anyone would be so determined to have syphilis - the chancres look nasty. but, if that's what she wants... some folks have odd goals..
 
Clinical question for you. Young lady presents for repeat c/s (3 prior). Prenatal care has not occurred until about 36 weeks. Determined to have syphilis (+RPR followed by +TrepIgG). Treatment is IM pencillin for three weeks. Patient has received two of three doses prior to c section but not the third. Good airway. NPO> 14 hrs. What would you do?
Unless she has neurosyphilis, why not spinal, or at least epidural?
There is no additional risk with general anaesthesia. There is a single report of a 73-year-old woman with late congenital pharyngo-laryngeal syphilis, who presented with a potentially difficult intubation during the induction of general anaesthesia. Syphilis poses no specific problems for regional blockade. The three main manifestations of late syphilis (neuro-, cardiovascular, and gummatous syphilis) can have a wide range of presentation. It is prudent to assess and document all existing signs and symptoms (including neurological examination) in the anaesthetic record. There is no evidence to suggest that regional blockade can affect the extent or likelihood of neurosyphilis. The lesion in tabes dorsalis is concentrated on the dorsal spinal roots and dorsal columns of the spinal cord, most often at the lumbosacral and the lower thoracic region. There have been reports that spinal anaesthesia induces severe lightning pain in the lower limbs of patients with phantom limb pain, tabes dorsalis, or causalgia. The exact mechanism of this phenomenon is controversial. Some hypothesize that complete loss of sensory input after spinal anaesthesia may decrease the level of inhibition and increase the self-sustained neural activity.
BJA: Syphilis in pregnancy.
 
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Unless she has neurosyphilis, why not spinal, or at least epidural?

BJA: Syphilis in pregnancy.

because there's no data on the subject.

the reference you post is a 2008 review of syphilis in pregnancy. the authors suggest there is no contraindication to neuraxial in patients with syphilis, but there is no data for or against that statement. it is speculation. my (counter) speculation - there is a theoretical risk of causing or accelerating the onset or severity of neurosyphilis by transmitting spirochetes from the plasma into the CNS. animal models of neurosyphilis are created by injecting spirochetes into the CSF...

imho there is a greater risk of causing/accelerating neurosyphilis with neuraxial anesthesia than there is of increased mortality with a GA for Csection in this otherwise healthy pt.

obviously there's no data to support that opinion either; i think you can defend either position. unless she aspirates during GA or develops neurosyphilis with a drug-resistant spirochete after a spinal. in either case you're screwed, but both are incredibly unlikely and impossible to compare the risk with current data.
 
antibiotic resistance exists. assuming your pt is in a latent phase i wouldn't needle her neuraxis until blood tests have been proven negative.

I don't think there is much if any penicillin resistance for syphillis. I would ask an ID doc.

R/B/O discussion with pt. Needle if airway scary.

With a 3rd section, and slavin's arguing the defense's case in the malpractice suit, why not do a supremely careful epidural and slowly dose to effect.
 
I don't think there is much if any penicillin resistance for syphillis. I would ask an ID doc.


I recently got an email saying that there is resistance in Kansas and Missouri.

I would go ahead with spinal since she is on penicillin.
 
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