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Hi everyone,

There is a hospital nearby that offers a position for an ER scribe; I'm thinking to apply for it and work there during my gap year after I complete my undergraduate...but I'm not familiar with this program. Can someone tell me what basically an ER scribe is, what they do, and whether it looks good to med schools?

Thanks guys 👍
 
Hi everyone,

There is a hospital nearby that offers a position for an ER scribe; I'm thinking to apply for it and work there during my gap year after I complete my undergraduate...but I'm not familiar with this program. Can someone tell me 1. what basically an ER scribe is, what they do, and 2. whether it looks good to med schools?

Thanks guys 👍

1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scribe_(ER)
http://elitemedicalscribes.com/scribes.html
http://www.**************/scribe/faq

and...

2. Yes. It appears that many schools want you to have a thorough understanding of what a doctor does on a daily basis. Becoming a scribe would certainly appear to satisfy this suggestion, as well as give you a rich body of patient interactions to draw from for secondary responses and the personal statement.
 
I've been scribing for the last year and although each program is different, here's a basic overview of what I've done:

You accompany the physician to the patient room with a tablet, (some places do computers on wheels aka COW's) and document the HPI as the patient explains why there have come to the ER. You can also document their review of systems, past medical history, recent medical visits and if they've had these symptoms previously.

After questioning, the physician will then start his physical exams. Some doctors verbalized their findings in the room as they go and others will tell you their findings when you leave the room.

You repeat this process with all the patients your assigned doctor sees.

Once the doctor has put in orders, you will check to see when labs are up and tell your doctor and update them in the chart. The same goes for x-rays that you can watch as the physician read it and point out his findings on the screen. You will also update any readings done by a radiologist for ultrasounds (that are not done bedside by the physician), MRI, CT scans an put them in the chart.

Lastly the doctor can dictate a course of Care or dictate progress note along the way basically explaining their thought process, their differential diagnosis and the patients disposition.

Scribe is great cause not only do you interact with the ER doctor but you get to see the jobs of ER techs, respiratory therapist, nurses, phlebotomists, PA's. I'm at a level 1 trauma center so each trauma is seen by an ER doc and trauma surgeon upon arrival. I get to interact with the trauma surgeons a lot and we get many transfers via helicopter and MVA's, stabbings, GSW's. All very interesting cases.

In addition I get to witness consults with many different specialties such as Ortho, Intensivists, Neuro, Neurosurg, gen surgery, Cardiology being the most frequent.

I believe med schools really like applicants with the experience as you get direct clinical exposure so you know if you can handle the blood, if you like the ER doc lifestyle and if you want to be a doctor. Every time I go to work, I know I want to be a doctor. You also gain knowledge of medical terminology such as anatomy and diseases. I feel I'm pretty good at reading chest x-rays and can identify a lot of structures and abnormalities on CT chest/abdomen such as broken rib, aortic dissection, liver lac, splenic lac, gallstones. EKG's are a whole different animal though.

Obviously every ER is different, but hopefully this gives you a good idea of the scribe job.

Let me know if you have more questions!
 
Another thing is the doctors love us and appreciate everything we do. We save them a least two hours a shift on charting and they are always happy to ask any questions I have about medicine. It has been a great learning experience and great exposure to Emergency Medicine.
 
Let me know if you have more questions!

Thank you! How do your shifts look like? I heard it has a time commitment... I am planning to graduate in spring '13 and then apply for med schools in the summer...that means, I'll be taking a gap year, in which I hopefully get a position as an ER scribe asap, so that by the time I get secondaries (hopefully), I have some experience to talk about.
 
Shifts are all over the place as you work somewhere that never closes. Anywhere from 6 or 8 AM, 2PM, 6PM, 11 PM. They are 8 hours shifts. Depending on your program you may jump around or maybe you will be lucky enough to have a consistent shift so your sleep schedule stays somewhat regular. It is not uncommon for you to work a certain amount of night and/or weekend shifts each month. You usually have to work a certain amount of major holidays too (Xmas, Xmas eve, Easter, Thanksgiving, NYE, NYD...)
 
i was told about being an ER Scribe from an ER doc friend of mine a couple weeks ago. hes used them in the past and LOVES what they do for the department as well as the hospital. ive filled out the application already and understands that itll take a couple weeks to hear something back. my question is about actually getting the job lol. im definitely nontraditional at 27 with a few nursing courses under my belt. i know i want to be a doctor and im hoping the clinical exposure works for me. can you give any insight on how they choose who gets to become a Scribe?? if i could land this... lol id be so money! (90s movie reference. youll get points if you can name that movie lol)
 
I'm an ER tech now, but I will say that while scribing is great, I encourage you to learn and discover some truths on healthcare and it's delivery while you're taking the job. Not trying to sound all philosophical and BS, but you seen some COOL stuff, but having something that has some depth in terms of discussion is ideal if you want to buttress your personal statement from your scribe work. IMO, I'd start a blog while you're working, and update it while you work. see what thoughts come into mind while you do your job.

LOL, I remember when i learned that as an ER tech, it is my job to "decontaminate" patients that came in with...BUGS. Bedbugs, lice, scabies, etc etc. Yeup. This is like a new level of poop-scooper...like ultra-poop-scooper mode. hahahaha.

Definitely was an interesting experience and kinda blows over any innocence with the disgusting and gross for me. hahaha.
 
I've been scribing for the last year and although each program is different, here's a basic overview of what I've done:

You accompany the physician to the patient room with a tablet, (some places do computers on wheels aka COW's) and document the HPI as the patient explains why there have come to the ER. You can also document their review of systems, past medical history, recent medical visits and if they've had these symptoms previously.

After questioning, the physician will then start his physical exams. Some doctors verbalized their findings in the room as they go and others will tell you their findings when you leave the room.

You repeat this process with all the patients your assigned doctor sees.

Once the doctor has put in orders, you will check to see when labs are up and tell your doctor and update them in the chart. The same goes for x-rays that you can watch as the physician read it and point out his findings on the screen. You will also update any readings done by a radiologist for ultrasounds (that are not done bedside by the physician), MRI, CT scans an put them in the chart.

Lastly the doctor can dictate a course of Care or dictate progress note along the way basically explaining their thought process, their differential diagnosis and the patients disposition.

Scribe is great cause not only do you interact with the ER doctor but you get to see the jobs of ER techs, respiratory therapist, nurses, phlebotomists, PA's. I'm at a level 1 trauma center so each trauma is seen by an ER doc and trauma surgeon upon arrival. I get to interact with the trauma surgeons a lot and we get many transfers via helicopter and MVA's, stabbings, GSW's. All very interesting cases.

In addition I get to witness consults with many different specialties such as Ortho, Intensivists, Neuro, Neurosurg, gen surgery, Cardiology being the most frequent.

I believe med schools really like applicants with the experience as you get direct clinical exposure so you know if you can handle the blood, if you like the ER doc lifestyle and if you want to be a doctor. Every time I go to work, I know I want to be a doctor. You also gain knowledge of medical terminology such as anatomy and diseases. I feel I'm pretty good at reading chest x-rays and can identify a lot of structures and abnormalities on CT chest/abdomen such as broken rib, aortic dissection, liver lac, splenic lac, gallstones. EKG's are a whole different animal though.

Obviously every ER is different, but hopefully this gives you a good idea of the scribe job.

Let me know if you have more questions!
I am currently working on the application through EMSOC... is there another program I should also be going through, or is this one (for lack of better terms) good enough? Also, what kinds of things do they like to see on your application? I am just being honest when answering the questions, but I was wondering if there was a specific thing I should emphasize...
Also, How long does it typically take to hear back from them? And if I say that I cannot do a two year commitment, but only a one year, will that significantly hurt my chances of getting in to that scribe program? I know they want you to be flexible when you say you can work nights and holidays, which is what real doctors have to do anyway, but how common is it that they make you work those times?

Sorry if that was too many questions but hopefully you guys can enlighten me a little
 
Im actually writing this from my ER Scribe computer ( Its a little slow at the moment).

I highly recommend working as a scribe. Its one of the best ways to get comfortable in the clinical settings. If you are a visual or tactile learner, it will give you quite the advantage during your clinical years.

It can be a little high stress at first, but once you learn how to navigate the charting program and each Dr.'s preferences on their charts, it becomes very easy.

Specifically, strong applicants have volunteered in the hospital setting, have taken medical terminology classes, are efficient on the computer, are confident, and are great communicators.

I may be embellishing a bit, but we have PA students who rotate here and often times I feel I have better MDM (medical decision making) skills than most of them.

The pay isnt the greatest but it is a great plus to the experience you need anyway. Plus I have gotten several stellar letters of recommendations from the Medical Directors of the group. One of which has some sort of position on the admissions committee of a school I plan on applying!


Hope that helps! Good Luck 👍
 
Hello!
is anyone a scribe at the San francisco General Hospital? If so, how do you like it and how much do you get paid?

Also, many of these positions require medical terminology. Do I need to take a course on it, or is being a molecular bio major good enough background. I've also volunteered at a hospital in the telemetry and ICU departments with direct patient care.
 
Im actually writing this from my ER Scribe computer ( Its a little slow at the moment).

I highly recommend working as a scribe. Its one of the best ways to get comfortable in the clinical settings. If you are a visual or tactile learner, it will give you quite the advantage during your clinical years.

It can be a little high stress at first, but once you learn how to navigate the charting program and each Dr.'s preferences on their charts, it becomes very easy.

Specifically, strong applicants have volunteered in the hospital setting, have taken medical terminology classes, are efficient on the computer, are confident, and are great communicators.

I may be embellishing a bit, but we have PA students who rotate here and often times I feel I have better MDM (medical decision making) skills than most of them.

The pay isnt the greatest but it is a great plus to the experience you need anyway. Plus I have gotten several stellar letters of recommendations from the Medical Directors of the group. One of which has some sort of position on the admissions committee of a school I plan on applying!


Hope that helps! Good Luck 👍


Writing this from my ER Scribe toughbook as well. I completely agree with your statement regarding PA's. We don't have PA's, but I will say there have definitely been DO residents who've come through that I know more than simply from doing this job. Part of it is also my hands-on patient care as a medic and 911 dispatcher. I highly recommend this job for experience.
 
I've been a scribe for nearly 2 years now but will be hanging up my scrubs for a white coat in 4 months. I strongly believe I wouldn't have gotten into med school without being an ER scribe. You learn SO MUCH about medicine, differentiating between sick and stable pt's, understanding the lifestyle of being a physician and the demands it has.

What we do - increase the efficiency of the physician by completing the patient's chart for him which allows him to see more patients/hour and increases the overall flow of the ED. By working in tandem with a physician for many hours a day, you really develop relationships with them as you rely on each other to do your job. (This is great when it comes to asking for a LOR). My job requires me to follow the doctor with my COW (computer on wheels) into every patient room. Here the physician will obtain the history from the pt which I will document. Upon leaving the room the physician will tell me the exam. Afterwards, I will keep track of the patient's chart - updating labs, informing the physician of radiology reports/CT findings until all the lab/rad orders on the pt are complete at which point the doctor will diagnose the pt and either discharge or admit them.

The amount of knowledge you gain through scribing is entirely up to you. You could either come in and do your job and leave, or you could ask the doctor questions throughout your shift - etiology of a particular disease, symptoms for illnesses, recognizing abnormalities on CT/MRI reports. Many of the doctors I have worked with are more than happy to teach you and answer your questions.

Training can be difficult but it is definitely worth it. You will be required to be come fluent in the medical language in order to maintain speed during the big rushes that happen in the ER. I highly recommend scribing to any premed I come across because you are basically shadowing a doctor and getting paid to do it.

Jsainte - dont hate on DO's, I have worked with many DO's during my time as a scribe and they are definitely on par with the MDs. Each side, MD or DO has their bad seeds that seem absolutely lost.
 
I just started scribing about a month ago, but oh man 😍 😍 😍 It's an amazing experience in so many ways. All of my experiences mirror what people here are saying.

I've worked with some really great doctors too -- my favourite will turn to me after we leave a patient room and say, "Well? What do you think we should do? What tests and treatments would you order and why?" It was totally scary at first, but it's also really cool (especially since I'm so new) to get input on how I'm learning. It's also amazing that I do know enough to make a lot of those determinations, and I know my knowledge level will only increase.

It's a big time commitment. I work 2-4 shifts a week, and they are all at least 8 hours (but can go to 9 or 10 hours). And you can work at all hours and it's crazy and busy and exhausting.. But oh my gosh. I love it. I used to think that shadowing was the coolest thing ever, but it's much more awesome to do this as you're actually a part of the patient's medical team. And honestly, I wouldn't want to work any less often or fewer hours, because I feel like I wouldn't get immersed that way. The large amount of time spent is kind of necessary in order to learn everything and get comfortable with the hospital environment.
 
I have applied to several scribe companies for a scribe position during my gap year. I just got accepted to one, however it will be a hour and half compute one way. I really want to take the position but I feel a bulk of my pay will go to just gas money since the job is only part-time. Will scribing be a substantially better experience than volunteering? I have volunteered in the Emergency Department for several years now and have a lot of hands on experience (patient contact and even participated in holdings during procedures). So, either I take the scribe position and deal with the long commute or I get a side job and continue my volunteering in the ED. Any input will be appreciated!
 
I'm Chief Scribe at my hospital and have been there for a year now. I can say without a doubt that it totally solidified my decision to go into medicine. Personally working with physicians can really help to develop your mindset for patient encounters and MDM. I love all the doctors I work with and all of them want to write me LORs! (I wish I could take them all, but sadly there are limits 🙁 ) Honestly, I've gotten to the point where I can fill out an entire patient's chart by shadowing the physician and they don't even have to tell me anything. It is an amazing thing!

However, being in the manager position, I have to give a caveat that becoming a scribe is no joke. The training prior to working on the floor is tough and you MUST study it or else you will never make it to training in the ED. It is a huge commitment of time and responsibility. You definitely can't treat it like some part-time job you may have had in high school or college. I had to fire someone who didn't show up for their shift and that was their only offense. It's a huge deal.

All in all, if you want great clinical experience, go for it, but only if you are SURE that you can make that commitment.
 
can someone please tell me any scribe companies in Florida
 
can someone please tell me any scribe companies in Florida

Typing in "scribe companies in Florida" into google got me a fair number of companies. I'd suggest starting there to see if any serve your local hospitals.
 
can someone please tell me any scribe companies in Florida
Check out ScribeAmerica in FL. That's the company I work for and I know that they have a lot of hospitals there, though not so much in the Panhandle. So if you're in the Panhandle, I'd do what Sunflower said, Google never fails.
 
I work as an ER scribe with the company Scribes Stat. Although I'm pretty new, I can already tell that it's the best clinical experience I'll have. Investigate different companies because they're associated with different hospitals and you can find the one closest to you! Also, hours differ by company.. Some have 8 hour shifts, some have 12 hour...
 
I have applied to several scribe companies for a scribe position during my gap year. I just got accepted to one, however it will be a hour and half compute one way. I really want to take the position but I feel a bulk of my pay will go to just gas money since the job is only part-time. Will scribing be a substantially better experience than volunteering? I have volunteered in the Emergency Department for several years now and have a lot of hands on experience (patient contact and even participated in holdings during procedures). So, either I take the scribe position and deal with the long commute or I get a side job and continue my volunteering in the ED. Any input will be appreciated!

Apply through a different program. Different scribe companies are associated with different hospitals. Odds are one will be closer to you!
 
I work as an ER scribe with the company Scribes Stat. Although I'm pretty new, I can already tell that it's the best clinical experience I'll have. Investigate different companies because they're associated with different hospitals and you can find the one closest to you! Also, hours differ by company.. Some have 8 hour shifts, some have 12 hour...
Oh boy, I do not miss the 12 hour shifts at my hospital. We got rid of them at the beginning of the year and now there are 8 hour shifts instead! It's beautiful.
 
Thanks for all of this very valuable info! I've found plenty on the job of a Medical Scribe, would someone please elaborate on the training? Specifically training via ScribeAmerica or EMSS Scribes. Number of hours, days, in-class? etc...

thanks!
 
Thanks for all of this very valuable info! I've found plenty on the job of a Medical Scribe, would someone please elaborate on the training? Specifically training via ScribeAmerica or EMSS Scribes. Number of hours, days, in-class? etc...

thanks!
SA has a pretty long amount of training. They like to call it a "Crash Course" in emergency medicine and it involves both classroom training and floor training. You must pass the classroom training to continue to floor training. You must then (of course) successfully complete the floor training.

The classroom training usually is 15-20 hours. Floor training is anywhere from 3-5 shifts (8-12 hours) in which you are constantly evaluated. If you do not meet the competency of the job upon your last shift, you will not get the job.

Sorry I can't give out any more details (company trade secrets and all that). Like I said before, take this seriously if you go this route. If you don't prepare, you won't succeed.
 
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