ERAS question on research

[premed2000]

How do you guys list poster/oral presentations that you are a co-author of at a conference but not the actual presenter (presented by other people)?

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[MedSchoolGurus]

Typically, posters are accompanied by an accepted abstract. I would list the accepted abstract you were an author on, but not the poster itself. Does that make sense?

 

[premed2000]

Typically, posters are accompanied by an accepted abstract. I would list the accepted abstract you were an author on, but not the poster itself. Does that make sense?

So on the ERAS application, these are the following categories you can list your publications under:
1) Peer Reviewed Journal Articles/Abstracts
2) Peer Reviewed Journal Articles/Abstracts (Other than published)
3) Peer Reviewed Book Chapter
4) Scientific Monographs
5) Other Articles
6) Poster Presentation
7) Oral Presentation
8) Peer Reviewed Online Publication
9) Non-peer reviewed online publications


Based on these categories, where would you put the poster/oral presentations that I am a co-author of but not the actual presenter? I do agree that along with these poster/oral presentations is accompanied by an accepted abstract. However, these abstracts are not published peer reviewed journals. They are just abstracts for accepted for a conference. So I am not sure where I would put them

 

[MedSchoolGurus]

If you did not present the poster, I would not list the poster at all. The abstract itself was likely peer reviewed and not all abstracts that were submitted were accepted for publication.

 

[NotaCop]

I would argue the contrary, if you contributed significantly to the work of the poster such that you are a listed author this should deserve a spot on your CV and thus your ERAS.

For example consider the hypothetical case where a student is unable to attend and has to have a colleague present a poster that is entirely their work (not applicable here that I know of, just an example). It would be foolish to say they must then strike that entire line off of their CV/ERAS simply due to a scheduling issue. Assuming OP is not first author on these posters, I think it's fair to say nearly anyone seeing the item listed will recognize OP likely did not present it, but still contributed to its creation and the project at large. Thus, it's not like there is deception going on here. I say it's perfectly fine to list these.

(full disclosure, I'm an M3 and this is only my opinion and is entirely based on conversations i've had and discussions I've read)

 

[mvenus929]

Eh. I know a fellow who worked with a med student, then intern, on her fellow scholarly project, and got accepted to PAS (big Peds conference), but couldn’t go, so had the med student/intern present it. I imagine she still listed the poster on her CV.

OP—if someone reviews the abstracts submitted and your abstract is accepted to a conference, then it is peer reviewed. Just put “[Abstract]” after the title and list either the conference, or the subsequent journal that the abstracts were published in (PAS publishes all abstracts in Pediatrics in like January following the May conference).

 

[bonemann]

is it ok to list an abstract that you were a part of but didnt present if that project becomes a publication that you obviously also list?
is that double dipping?

 

[moyamoya6]

Are you guys listing your publications by the author last name in ascending alphabetical order (like what it says on the ERAS 2019 guide), or listing like how it is seen on your paper/abstract/poster? It just seems so weird to list all my publications in alphabetic order... how will they know I’m first author??

 

[sniderwes]

So I'm listing all my accepted conference abstracts/posters as just the poster, even if I was not the presenter. I heard programs don't like it when you double dip the abstract.

However I'm a bit confused about the format for listing authors....according to ERAS is it supposed to be Smith, J., Bush, G., Trump, D. ? That just looks funny to me

 

[mvenus929]

is it ok to list an abstract that you were a part of but didnt present if that project becomes a publication that you obviously also list?

is that double dipping?

If you didn't present, I would just list the publication.
If you didn't present, and there isn't yet a publication, you can list the abstract.

If you presented the poster, you can list both the poster presentation and the publication (though some people frown on that--I think if you did the work to present, you should get credit for that too).

There's varying opinions of what to do if you both presented the poster and don't yet have a publication--whether you should list both the poster presentation and the abstract.

However I'm a bit confused about the format for listing authors....according to ERAS is it supposed to be Smith, J., Bush, G., Trump, D. ? That just looks funny to me

What's the confusion? That's how it's done in a lot of journals (except there are semi-colons instead of commas between individuals' names 😉 ). You can list the first initial without the period if you'd like.

 

[sniderwes]

If you didn't present, I would just list the publication.
If you didn't present, and there isn't yet a publication, you can list the abstract.

If you presented the poster, you can list both the poster presentation and the publication (though some people frown on that--I think if you did the work to present, you should get credit for that too).

There's varying opinions of what to do if you both presented the poster and don't yet have a publication--whether you should list both the poster presentation and the abstract.



What's the confusion? That's how it's done in a lot of journals (except there are semi-colons instead of commas between individuals' names 😉 ). You can list the first initial without the period if you'd like.

My confusion was that I usually see research listed Smith J, Bush G, Trump D with no periods in between each author like the way ERAS seems to suggest we do it.

 

[moyamoya6]

My confusion was that I usually see research listed Smith J, Bush G, Trump D with no periods in between each author like the way ERAS seems to suggest we do it.

Are you going to list the authors in alphabetical order? Or nah?

 

[sniderwes]

Are you going to list the authors in alphabetical order? Or nah?

Why would you do that? Just list it by first author, second author, etc.

 

[mvenus929]

My confusion was that I usually see research listed Smith J, Bush G, Trump D with no periods in between each author like the way ERAS seems to suggest we do it.

Ah. Some citation styles I believe still use the commas between last name and first initial, but you are correct in that they aren’t usually used.

 

[moyamoya6]

Why would you do that? Just list it by first author, second author, etc.

Because the ERAS guide said something about listing it in ascending alphabetical order, so wasn’t sure if I should follow their directions or not.

 

[sniderwes]

Because the ERAS guide said something about listing it in ascending alphabetical order, so wasn’t sure if I should follow their directions or not.

I interpreted that as their autopopulate on the CV, and not anything we have to manually do.