Just a follow-up question -- when comparing the electrophilicity of 2 different carbonyl carbons, such as between an aldehyde and a ketone, do we only take into account the electron-donating nature if the R groups are alkyl groups? I've only come across a discussion of EDG's reducing the positive nature of the carbonyl carbon of ketones in contrast to aldehydes, so I was wondering if this still applies in cases like acyl halides or carboxylic acids.