Even with a very low GPA (<3.3), don't lose hope!

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I am making this thread to share my experience on my application cycle this year, which proved to be A LOT better than I expected. Hopefully this gives all those with low GPAs that are planning to apply for future cycles hope. It's a long post, but read it all and hopefully it will motivate you a little:

Here were my stats:
cGPA: 3.27
sGPA: 3.24
MCAT: 37Q (12PS,11VR,14BS)
Undergraduate: Chemical and Biomolecular Engineering at Johns Hopkins.
Personal: Non-URM hispanic (from Trinidad), 23 years old, male, Maryland resident.
ECs: Various shadowing in health care fields (anesthesiology, radiology, and physical therapy), volunteer at a medical clinic for 6 months, NCAA varsity wrestler, 2nd degree black belt in Tang Soo Do and Jiujitsu and martial arts instructor, musician/composer. Currently working as a personal trainer. NO RESEARCH WHATSOEVER.

Here were my thoughts upon entering this years cycle:
-My GPA is horrendous, as it's well below the bottom 10th percentile of almost every MD school. I did not want too, nor did I end up, applying DO or carribean.
-No research will hurt me.
-I will probably not get a couple interviews, and not accepted anywhere this cycle, leading me to pursue a post-bac to raise my grades.

Here is where I applied. Honestly, with my GPA I believed every school was a reach school, and I almost didn't apply to any top schools (for the sake of this thread I'll call the top schools any school ranked in the top 25 by USnews), but I applied very broadly anyways (I ended up applying to 25 schools initially). I did not expect any interviews or acceptances from any of the top schools, and I truly only believe UMD was my only shot (as I'm a MD resident):
Top schools: Harvard, JHU, UPenn, WU, Yale, Cornell, Columbia, Pitt, Northwestern, UVA.
Other schools: UMD, Georgetown, Howard, GW, Uniformed services, VCU, Vtech, EVMS, Temple, Drexel, Jeffereson, Penn State, UNJRW, Dartmouth, West Virginia,

AND THE RESULTS (Get ready to be very pleasantly surprised):
-25 initial applications.
-8 interview invitations.
-4 interviews I turned down, and 8 applications I withdrew pre interview. I did this all VERY early in the application cycle, in October, after getting my UVA acceptance.
-13 applications left active the whole cycle. 9 rejected me pre-interview.
-Out of the 4 interviews that I completed, I had 1 acceptance (UVA), 2 waitlists (UPenn and Dartmouth), and 1 rejection (Yale).

Now this is misleading, because although I got only one acceptance, keep in mind as soon as I got into UVA, in early October, I withdrew from 8 schools, and decided not to go to 4 of the interviews (they were Temple, Uniformed Servives, VCU, and Vtech), as UVA was DEFINITELY a top choice for me and rendered those other school obsolete. The only schools I kept active at that point were 13 schools that I would seriously consider over UVA, which were the Ivies, JHU, WU, Northwestern, Pitt, Gtown and UMD. Notice that the only schools I kept active were top schools (with the exception of Gtown, Darmouth and UMD), so if I had left the others active (and pursued the other 4 interviews), I'm 100 percent sure I would have had multiple acceptances and even more interviews.

Anyways, this cycle blew me away. I went from thinking I would get a couple interviews max with no acceptances, to getting 8 interviews, 3 of which I considered top schools, and an acceptance at a top school that I almost didn't apply to because people told me "UVA is too much of a reach". After seeing their stats (35 MCAT plus 3.8 GPA) I almost didn't apply there. Same with Penn and Yale, who had much higher stats than mine, but offered me interviews anyways.

In any case, this is just to show those with a low GPA that there is hope. I think what really pulled it through for me was my unique ECs (the sports and martial arts) and nailing the MCAT to "balance" the GPA. Being a non-URM hispanic probably helped to. DON'T LOSE HOPE! I almost didn't apply this cycle at all, and most definitely almost didn't apply to any top schools, and wow, that would have been a HUGE mistake!

I will most likely (99 percent sure) be matriculating to UVA in the fall. I prefer UPenn, so if I can get in off the waitlist I'll go there, but the outlook looks doubtful.

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Very nice job, congratulations! Very inspiring story for people that have around that same GPA. It makes sense to not go all in on the Top 25, I think a lot of people do that and that's where most of the rejections would come from. Couple of questions:

What was your application date? I am sure that helped
Was your GPA having a strong upward trend? (pretty much all years the past couple semesters)
And I'm also guessing you had a crazy good interview session too.
 
How did you study for your MCAT bc that is all that will make or break me at this point. I have similar stats too and dont know if I will apply
 
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Was your GPA having a strong upward trend? (pretty much all years the past couple semesters)

From an old thread:
3.27cGPA and 3.19sGPA from Johns Hopkins. Majored in Chemical and Biomolecular Engineering.

37 MCAT (12PS, 11V, Q, 14BS)

Started well my freshman year, dipped into 2.7 range sophomore year, steady upward trend the next 4 semesters.

Congrats OP. Well done!
 
You also attended an undergraduate institution well-known for grade deflation (while choosing a very difficult major) in addition to scoring very well on the MCAT. You've done a great job, but there are several factors that account for your performance this cycle despite what seems to be a low GPA. Just wanted to point those out for other people reading the thread. Huge congratulations!
 
I applied early. I'm pretty sure it helped a lot. I submitted my primary literally on the first day (June 5th I think), and I took a week max to do each secondary as they came.

Interviews went well! I only had one awkward one at Yale, but the rest were awesome! I'm a huge people person (that's why I chose to work as a personal trainer rather than an engineer in my 2 years off), so I loved the interview process and it was zero stress for me.

Yes, there was an upward trend as catalyst noticed. 3.5 freshman year, dropped to 2.7 sophomore year due do me being an idiot and cutting weight too much weight for wrestling, but I learned from that, re-evaluated my priorities in life, and got a 3.4 and then 3.7 jr and sr years.

And yes, I think going to a known grade deflated schools with a very difficult major helped, and the MCAT too obviously, but I just wanted to let people know that, if they adequately compensate for a low GPA (like I did with my MCAT, undergrad college, degree, and ECs) they can do it!
 
Frankly, I'm amazed. Your MCAT is well above avg for UVA, but your GPA is <10th %ile for them. That you scored an interview at Yale makes me want to go buy some lottery tickets!

Whatever the case, I'm glad for your success. Good luck!

Oh, and say hi to my old pal Dr Mike Brown, on Faculty there in Nephrology. If you wanna do some research, you can't go wrong with him.


I am making this thread to share my experience on my application cycle this year, which proved to be A LOT better than I expected. Hopefully this gives all those with low GPAs that are planning to apply for future cycles hope. It's a long post, but read it all and hopefully it will motivate you a little:

Here were my stats:
cGPA: 3.27
sGPA: 3.24
MCAT: 37Q (12PS,11VR,14BS)
Undergraduate: Chemical and Biomolecular Engineering at Johns Hopkins.
Personal: Non-URM hispanic (from Trinidad), 23 years old, male, Maryland resident.
ECs: Various shadowing in health care fields (anesthesiology, radiology, and physical therapy), volunteer at a medical clinic for 6 months, NCAA varsity wrestler, 2nd degree black belt in Tang Soo Do and Jiujitsu and martial arts instructor, musician/composer. Currently working as a personal trainer. NO RESEARCH WHATSOEVER.

Here were my thoughts upon entering this years cycle:
-My GPA is horrendous, as it's well below the bottom 10th percentile of almost every MD school. I did not want too, nor did I end up, applying DO or carribean.
-No research will hurt me.
-I will probably not get a couple interviews, and not accepted anywhere this cycle, leading me to pursue a post-bac to raise my grades.

Here is where I applied. Honestly, with my GPA I believed every school was a reach school, and I almost didn't apply to any top schools (for the sake of this thread I'll call the top schools any school ranked in the top 25 by USnews), but I applied very broadly anyways (I ended up applying to 25 schools initially). I did not expect any interviews or acceptances from any of the top schools, and I truly only believe UMD was my only shot (as I'm a MD resident):
Top schools: Harvard, JHU, UPenn, WU, Yale, Cornell, Columbia, Pitt, Northwestern, UVA.
Other schools: UMD, Georgetown, Howard, GW, Uniformed services, VCU, Vtech, EVMS, Temple, Drexel, Jeffereson, Penn State, UNJRW, Dartmouth, West Virginia,

AND THE RESULTS (Get ready to be very pleasantly surprised):
-25 initial applications.
-8 interview invitations.
-4 interviews I turned down, and 8 applications I withdrew pre interview. I did this all VERY early in the application cycle, in October, after getting my UVA acceptance.
-13 applications left active the whole cycle. 9 rejected me pre-interview.
-Out of the 4 interviews that I completed, I had 1 acceptance (UVA), 2 waitlists (UPenn and Dartmouth), and 1 rejection (Yale).

Now this is misleading, because although I got only one acceptance, keep in mind as soon as I got into UVA, in early October, I withdrew from 8 schools, and decided not to go to 4 of the interviews (they were Temple, Uniformed Servives, VCU, and Vtech), as UVA was DEFINITELY a top choice for me and rendered those other school obsolete. The only schools I kept active at that point were 13 schools that I would seriously consider over UVA, which were the Ivies, JHU, WU, Northwestern, Pitt, Gtown and UMD. Notice that the only schools I kept active were top schools (with the exception of Gtown, Darmouth and UMD), so if I had left the others active (and pursued the other 4 interviews), I'm 100 percent sure I would have had multiple acceptances and even more interviews.

Anyways, this cycle blew me away. I went from thinking I would get a couple interviews max with no acceptances, to getting 8 interviews, 3 of which I considered top schools, and an acceptance at a top school that I almost didn't apply to because people told me "UVA is too much of a reach". After seeing their stats (35 MCAT plus 3.8 GPA) I almost didn't apply there. Same with Penn and Yale, who had much higher stats than mine, but offered me interviews anyways.

In any case, this is just to show those with a low GPA that there is hope. I think what really pulled it through for me was my unique ECs (the sports and martial arts) and nailing the MCAT to "balance" the GPA. Being a non-URM hispanic probably helped to. DON'T LOSE HOPE! I almost didn't apply this cycle at all, and most definitely almost didn't apply to any top schools, and wow, that would have been a HUGE mistake!

I will most likely (99 percent sure) be matriculating to UVA in the fall. I prefer UPenn, so if I can get in off the waitlist I'll go there, but the outlook looks doubtful.
 
Thanks guys. It's been an awesome ride. And it's not over yet!

And Goro, I'm amazed too. The fact that I got interviews at Yale, Upenn, Dartmouth and UVA while being well below the bottom tenth percentile for GPA for all of them (even with a slightly higher than average MCAT for those schools) hopefully gets the message across that one should NEVER loose hope. Especially if they work their butt off to compensate (For me this was trying to get a good MCAT score and building up my ECs. I also had a very interesting story as to why I got into medicine).

And to think I almost didn't apply because of fear of rejection...moral is this: Don't give up before trying. Try first, and if you fail, then rethink your strategy. But at least try.
 
Amazing story and congrats man, I've been keeping up with your story for awhile! Gives me hope. Good luck with everything!
 
Your MCAT score was the only thing going for you, to be honest.
 
You have no idea how great it was to read this!! Thank you so so much.

I, too, recently graduated from Johns Hopkins (Biology/Spanish) and I have similar stats (cGPA 3.7, sGPA 3.31, 36). I have been beyond worried about my chances applying for the 2014 cycle, and actually came here seeking encouragement because filling out my HPCA thing is making me feel less than adequate. I have other factors going for me like being a brain tumor survivor and currently working as an ER scribe, but I'm so scared that admissions boards won't read my application past the numbers.

On a completely different note, out of curiosity, were you perhaps a contestant in Mr. Phi Mu?
 
Congrats! These are great stories to always read. Good luck! And welcome to the party. 😀

I really think we should get an "inspirational story" thread started...if everyone is doing this 30+ mcat thread...
 
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