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The fact that Congress is finally beginning to take note of the unscrupulous and anti-competitive practices of PBMs is noteworthy. We all should contribute money to Rep. Collins for his insightful articulation of the MANY facets of PBM abuses that are directly contributing to the continuing workplace environment deterioration that we all have experienced at one point or another. Even if you can only contribute $5 or $10 it is well worth it.

 
http://access-rx.org/2015/11/19/congress-holds-hearing-on-pbms/

Below we go into detail about these issues, followed by the complete remarks and questions of Congressman Doug Collins (R-GA).

Several components of CVS and ESI’s testimonies do not align with their actual practices
The testimony offered by Ms. Bricker and Ms. Pons of ESI and CVS, respectively, did not offer an accurate portrayal of how the PBMs interact with independent pharmacies and customers in the real-world. While there were some minor errors — such as the claim by Ms. Bricker that “only 5% of independent pharmacies service rural areas” — we are going to focus on the big issues we saw.

Communications to pharmacists directly contradict CVS’s testimony
In the closing minutes of the hearing Chairman Marino posed the following question to the panel:

Marino: What is the downside of independents coming together and buying prescription drugs in bulk? If there is an exemption to the antitrust law for pharmaceuticals, what is the downside of independents getting together and purchasing drugs?

While Ms. Pons does not specifically answer the question, the she explains:

Pons: We welcome anybody that’s part of this value chain in helping reduce costs, provide access, and improve health outcomes. To the extent that they can be more efficient just like we are trying to be more efficient in our PBM and in our pharmacies, we would welcome them to be able to do that because that’s going to ultimately help our clients and help our patients that we’re all trying to serve.

AccessRx America has personally reviewed copies of communications between an independent pharmacy and CVS that betray Ms. Pons’ answer. In the communications, which took place less than a month ago, the independent pharmacy inquires about becoming a preferred pharmacy in CVS’s Part D plans. The response offered to the pharmacy owner is that “Caremark does not offer the Medicare Part D preferred network to independent pharmacies.”

If we are to accept that preferred networks reduce costs, and given independent pharmacy’s ability to improve access and health outcomes, Caremark’s flat out refusal to even discuss the matter with the pharmacy is incompatible with Ms. Pons’ assertions. CVS would likely respond that independents can join preferred networks through a PSAO, but given the difficulties PSAOs experience negotiating access to these preferred networks we find that to be an unsatisfactory response, shifting blame.

Recent ESI communications are evidence of coercive PBM practices
In a recent newsletter to pharmacies titled “Retail Providers Expected to Fill Prescriptions at Point of Sale,” ESI demonstrates an abusive tactic employed to suppress public criticism.

The letter explains:

Providers contracted with Express Scripts as “Retail” pharmacies are expected to serve members of their communities at their “brick and mortar” locations. They are expected to dispense medications in person at their pharmacy counters, whether they are independent, supermarket, chain drug store, etc. As a result, retail providers contracted with Express Scripts are prohibited from acting as mail order pharmacies.

Providers found to be engaged in mail order activities are subject to termination from our networks.

At first glance, ESI appears to be banning all network retail pharmacies from mailing a prescription to their own customer under any circumstances. But are they? ESI begins by saying retail pharmacies are “expected” to dispense prescriptions at “their pharmacy counters.” Is an expectation a requirement? They go on to “prohibit” retail pharmacies from “acting as [a] mail order pharmacy.” But if a retail pharmacy mails a prescription to a local customer, is that “acting” like a mail order pharmacy?

We don’t yet know the answer to these questions, and we’re not alone in our confusion; we’ve heard the same questions from several independent pharmacy owners, including small chains, single stores, specialty pharmacies, and more.

If ESI is in fact banning independent pharmacies from mailing prescriptions to local retail customers, this is unquestionably anticompetitive. The end result would be an increase in revenue for ESI’s mail order pharmacies at the expense of the consumer.

The fact that these questions exist is demonstrative of the problem. The letter ends by threatening termination to any pharmacy that does not adhere to the rules they are stating. If they are banning the act of mailing a prescription, that is one thing. But if they are not, the lack of clarity in ESI’s statements is intentional. Some pharmacists will likely interpret the statements to mean they can’t mail prescriptions. Others will question it, but under the threat of termination they will exercise caution and not mail prescriptions. The rest will need to invest their own time into clarifying what is being said. These options either directly benefit ESI or disadvantage independent pharmacy owners and are therefore abusive.

When, as was the case in the letter discussed above from CVS, a one page communication is sent to an independent pharmacy and more than half of the page consists of confidentiality notices and disclosure warnings, it’s little surprise that independent pharmacists are conflicted about making their concerns public. Congressman Collins commented in the hearing that “what is even more appalling to me is when local pharmacies across this country try to speak out about this they receive letters from PBMs saying that if you make too much noise about this your contract could be in jeopardy.”

We agree wholeheartedly.

ESI’s description of what pharmacies know at point of sale neglects DIRs
During Congressman John Ratcliffe’s (R-TX) testimony he asked Ms. Bricker and Ms. Pons about what information a pharmacy can see when they fill a prescription:

Ratcliffe: Are pharmacists able to see in real time what their reimbursement for dispensing a generic drug is? Or are there fees being charged to pharmacies after the point of sale?

Bricker: Directly at the point of sale as you’re standing at the counter the pharmacist is processing the prescription, submitting vital information to the PBM, and in roughly 3 to 5 seconds they are receiving a response on what co-pay to collect if any and what reimbursement they will receive. In 3-5 seconds they get what co-pay to pay and what reimbursement will be.

What Ms. Bricker says is accurate, but she is only responding to the first question asked by Congressman Ratcliffe. The answer to the second question is yes, and by not responding to it her answer is incomplete. She is neglecting to include direct and indirect remuneration (DIRs), which cannot be accounted for at the time of sale. In some cases it is possible to estimate this amount and in other cases it is not, but these are fees that are charged to pharmacies after the fact in the form of a reduction in reimbursement. It is important to keep in mind that how DIRs are handled can vary depending per prescription and per PBM, some of which do not even report what prescription the DIRs are being charged against. In any case, it can routinely take several weeks to account for DIRs, if at all.

ESI’s claimed profit margin of 2-3% is “accurate,” but entirely misleading
Congressman Darrell Issa (D-CA) raised a valid question with Mr. Balto about the profit margins of PBMs, with a focus on ESI. Congressman Issa, citing data from the 10-K annual SEC reports filed by ESI, was looking for insight into what appears to be extremely thin profit margins for the PBMs. He asked, “if someone sells $100 billion of product and makes $2 billion after expenses and taxes, where do you think those excess profits are?”

At face value, ESI’s profit margin in 2014 was 1.99% with $100.887 billion in revenue and $2.008 billion in “net income from continuing operations attributable to Express Scripts.” However, answering Mr. Issa’s question about where the excess profits are is complicated by ESI’s accounting practices.

For example, in a footnote on their 2014 10-K ESI points out that their annual revenue includes retail pharmacy co-payments of $10.272 billion. But co-pays are not revenue to the PBM. This is further complicated by the fact that ESI includes revenues from their mail order and specialty pharmacies under the banner of PBM revenues. To the best of our knowledge, it is not possible to completely separate out true PBM revenues and related profits into distinct segments from the data in ESI’s 10-K reports.

In short, we don’t know ESI’s profit margin from exclusively PBM operations, but we can presume it is higher than the 2-3% Congressman Issa (understandably) cited given the inflated revenue from more than $10 billion in co-pays, among other things. We can’t begin to understand “where the excess profits are” without understanding where the actual profits are in the first place. At the very least, considering this question in the context of “gross profit” rather than “net income” may offer a more accurate picture.

Finally, when talking about ESI and CVS’s revenues and income it can be difficult to put such large numbers in context. According to data from NCPA’s digest (which we agree has several limitations, as discussed inanalysis by Drug Channels), independent pharmacies generated $81.4 billion of revenues in 2014. There are 22,478 independent pharmacies reported by NCPA. Put another way, CVS and ESI generate roughly 295% more revenue than 22,478 independent pharmacies.

What do independent pharmacies offer that the big chains don’t?
Towards the end of the hearing Chairman Marino raised the question asked Mr. Arthur “Mr. Arthur, I live in a rural area. We have independents and we have CVS and other pharmacies. What do you offer to your customers that you do not see the big chains offering, particularly if it’s through the mail?”

Mr. Arthur’s replied that there are “a whole host of services,” such as immunizations, consultation, medication reconciliation, and so on. He added that the reason he believes independents are successful is due to the relationships they’ve established with members of their community over very long periods of time.

We agree with Mr. Arthur on all of these points and there are few people better qualified to discuss the value of independents than him. That being said we would like to expand on this without the time constraints Mr. Arthur was required to adhere to. In particular, we want to mention something that independents offer to the U.S. pharmacy industry at large that the big chains do not: the ability to quickly innovate (or adopt innovations), rapidly respond to changing market conditions and consumer demands, and adjust to meet the needs of their community. What’s more, independents are the last line of defense against the PBMs and big chains, serving as a system of checks and balances.

We applaud Congressman Doug Collins’s continued leadership in support of independent pharmacy
Congressman Doug Collins (R-GA) offered the most vocal and aggressive line of questioning. Below is a transcript of his comments and questions, which we believe are worth a read.

Collins: To be truthful, I’m very discouraged by what I see in the pharmacy landscape. Ms. Bricker, you state in your testimony that the PBM marketplace is extremely competitive. That’s an interesting statement because three companies — Express Scripts, CVS Health, and OptumRx — control about 80% of the market which translates to about 180 million lives. Not a great deal of competitiveness there.

Community pharmacists routinely incur losses of approximately $100 or more on many prescriptions because PBMs or insurance middlemen reimburse pharmacies well below their cost to acquire and dispense generic prescription drugs that are skyrocketing in price. This is one of the most pressing areas that I believe demands Congressional action. PBMs can wait weeks and months to update reimbursement benchmarks they use to compensate pharmacies while drug prices increase virtually overnight. That’s why I introduced H.R. 244 (the MAC Transparency Act) dealing with this issue of transparency and would encourage folks to be a part of that.

One of the things that has been interesting to me today has been discussing mail order. Since PBMs own their own mail order pharmacies I’ve seen information leading me to believe that a real incentive exists for them to steer patients towards mail order delivery. In fact, I’ve seen first hand in a fax received from a community pharmacist from OptumRx indicating that he could not mail patients their prescriptions. Less than a month later a patient gave that pharmacist a letter mailed to them from OptumRx touting savings they could see if they got their prescriptions mailed from the PBM mail order pharmacy. While the letter states the patient is free to continue using a retail pharmacy — how sweet — it requires notification to an insurance company and it is likely that many patients will not have the time or knowledge to know that the mail order is not mandatory. This is extremely concerning from an anticompetitive standpoint and a patient care standpoint.

Given that CMS has also recently finalized Medicare Part D requirements that allows PBMs to automatically autoship new prescriptions without express beneficiary consent, this is of particular concern, and especially to one certain gentlemen that happens to be very close to me and that is my father.

I want to turn to Ms. Bricker. You have talked about teams of people that look at your MAC lists [at Express Scripts]. Teams of people that do this. I just have a direct question Ms. Bricker, do you have two sets of MAC lists? Do you have two lists for MAC pricing?

Pons & Bricker: We have multiple MAC lists, yes. We have multiple clients.

Collins: I hear from pharmacies in my community that reimbursement or MAC appears to be arbitrary and has little connection to actual price. Can you explain the disparity in MAC prices you pay to long term care pharmacies?

Bricker: I don’t actually know the acquisition cost of any single pharmacy. Our policy is to survey the market based on a number of price points that are available both confidentially to Express Scripts as well as publicly in an attempt to respond in kind to the market. We make every effort to ensure that we are reimbursing a fair amount for prescription drugs from a generic perspective. We have an appeals process that if we get it wrong a pharmacy can file an appeal and provide us additional evidence.

Collins: Ms. Bricker, have you ever told a pharmacy that if they appeal any more they will be cut off from a plan. If I told you that I know of pharmacies that have been told that if you appeal I know have been told this would you find it egregiously appalling?

Bricker: Yes, I actually would agree with you. The appeals process is there to ensure that we are responsive to the market.

Collins: Well I think there is a concern because there is a disconnect because this is what’s being told. I think the concern that I have here is that there needs to be a level playing field. There needs to be a level playing field for community and independent pharmacies as well as the other companies involved in this market. Right now it’s not. We know from pharmacists who have been told that if you appeal more we will cut you off.

What is even more appalling to me is when local pharmacies across this country try to speak out about this they receive letters from PBMs saying that if you make too much noise about this your contract could be in jeopardy. That is not right. I will continue to fight this and if you don’t believe that it’s true, it is true. And when we understand this, here’s my concern. In the coming future, because I hear from my pharmacists all across this country and in Northeast Georgia, if it continues the way it is they will be closing and all those wonderful savings that are being donated from PBMs are going to be lost in closed businesses and closed lives. And I just have a question: who will my folks in my district in Georgia call when they need someone at night and their local pharmacist is the one they trust? Ms. Bricker they’re not going to call you. They’re not going to find you in St. Louis. They’re not going to find you Ms. Pons. They’re going to try and find their local pharmacist who has been closed because of the anticompetitive nature of this field. This needs to be addressed.
 
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Hopefully this gets bigger and eventually a law is passed that aids in ending PBM abuse. Then again insurance companies have lobbies and money and the chains (who are the big players) also run and make money from their PBMs...

I can't wait for them to tout how they're saving patient's money and improve care. My general community pharmacy rotation was at an independent and the owner made it a point to show me how PBMs were trying to repeatedly screw them over and all the fines/audits they try to put them through. I've never seen such an unethical business model where they're out to screw the patients and take their money while also screwing the pharmacies and trying to do bare minimum (or even below that). Honestly though a legal thing should be if pharmacists cannot recommend a specific insurance plan and physicians/hospitals cannot recommend or send things to a specific pharmacy than neither should PBMs be able to "incentivize" or encourage their patients to use their own mail order facility. Seems like a double standard there.
 
I suggest watching the whole testimony for everyone to get the whole debate. Thanks BF7 for introducing this. It's a pretty important topic for the future that our profession should listen to.


15-20 : Marino has gotten contributions from both sides. To me, seems like he was trying to balance the 2 sides, as most politicians I guess would when receiving $$ from opposing ends.

20-25 : Johnson, nothing interesting except towards the end, when he said something like the FTC saw no reason to fear PBM or mergers in their report but the last report on PBMs was in 2005 (so clearly outdated) and they said they'll address if that needs to be changed in the hearing.

Skip to 32, Conyer's is some old dude that just sits in

Witnesses are 1) Bricker (pharmacist from Missouri) representing Express Scripts, VP 2) Some antitrust lawyer Balto 3) High level lawyer from CVS Health 4) President of NCPA...______ Arthur.

36:15 - Bricker explicitly says they have 2000 employees in PA, 700 in GA, why? The heads of both parties in the committee are from GA and PA, and Doug Collins is GA(the main antagonist I guess for PBMs). I don't think Marino's 10th district covers an Express Script facility though but I guess regional PA spilling over to his district? And I'm betting Express Scripts hires no one in Doug Collins, letting him free to attack

36:43 - Bricker says PBM landscape very competitive. Dozens of PBMs competing. At 1:00 mark of BF7's link, 3 control 80%. Hmmmmmmm someone's being disingenuous.

39:40 - Bricker using own NCPA data against them. # of independent pharmacies held steady...and so on. Idk if that means retail though or if independents are going to other fields like compounding, medical supplies, specialty, w/e.

40:40 - Antitrust lawyer. Give Balto credit if you liked Collins. He rips the PBMs apart

46:15 - CVS Health Lawyer defending CVS Health. The PBMs are basically saying, "We're important, we save $$, this is why"

54:34 - good statement on PBM and conflicts of interests.

56:09 - Goodlatte (Republican - VA) - 56:42, supports the PBMs a bit. 57:40, supports the independents. He has received ExpressScripts funding in the last term and this YTD. NCPA funded him last term but not this year. 58:10, attacking Obamacare

59:50 - Goodlatte questioning. Sounds like a way to deflect the blame from PBMs to the manufacturers and forces beyond control of the PBMs. The CVS and Express Scripts don't really answer the question on how they try to lower the high prices from manufacturers, just that"We get up and do our best!" Well gee ain't that dandy!

64:50 - Good question from Goodlatte. Conflict of interest and forcing independents to eat costs, even though PBM's claim to be so great and know the costs, and own the mail order, can control reimbursement, how can independents survive in that environment?

68:19 - CVS to independents, "Well we always do our best, yeah you know there are bad days sometimes, too bad, suck it". Goodlatte responds, well pharmacist showed me a net loss, if that's average, how do they stay in business? "There's appeal process. Oh and our interests are the same as independents, we want them to succeed" from CVS.

68:57 - Balto, consumers ain't getting rebate info. No transparency.

70:30 - Balto again, dunno why Johnson is so strict on time? Why FTC weak on PBMs? Apparently FTC puts economic theory above marketplace reality.

71:07 - Bricker dodges question on why PBMs don't pass rebate savings to consumers that Balto accuses PBM's of. Says well that's maybe other PBM's, Express Scripts is transparent. More transparency could be bad for PBM competition, meaning if we told everyone how much we negotiated for, we'd get price fixing and collusion if we told everyone. This doesn't make sense? Balto responds, Medco/Express had 75% increase in profit in 3 years, that's not competitive market, that's anticompetitive merger, consumers harmed.

72:33: Asked CVS for reassurance on protecting vulnerable in nursing homes now that CVS is retail, PBM, and LTC, won't hurt vulnerable. CVS lawyer says, don't worry, we'll take care of them. Trust us.

74:19: Why not just negotiate new contract or refuse one offered? What's the big deal? NCPA says not a realistic option, would have to close door. Can't turn it away business.

75:00 - Ratcliffe, R-Texas. He only received 1 donation from last year from UHC, otherwise, he has no donations from either side so the questions he asks don't really advance the debate. Tries to play good guy saying he's fighting for his constituents for their votes but no $$ for him. Basically, "Why do I have to do this when I'm not getting bribed?" So he BS's the whole thing lol.

81:00 - Cicilline. Throws lavish praise and applause for CVS for tobacco. Gives easy question, CVS dodge again. Transparency, why can't you share? CVS, "Well that's proprietary, we don't want to show how much we save, we ain't sharing w/competitors, says FTC says transparency can raise costs, pharmacists have audit rights to get good deal, they support transparency, if we don't make it available, they can go somewhere else." Does grill a bit cause he's Democrat so he's gotta act like one. But CVS is based in his district in RI. CVS is also a big donator to him, 9500 2-3 years ago and 2500 this year. After this hearing, probably another donation. Throws in a , "let's blame big pharma too", trying to act tough for the voters but wink wink to CVS.

89:06 - Collins (BF7's link).
Easy to see why Collins is so aggressive. Follow the money. On 4/13/15 both Marino and Collins received $5000 from NCPA. On 6/22/15, both received $2000. And the President of NCPA, is RIGHT THERE! RIGHT F**KIN THERE in the hearing! And Collins is low on cash compared to Marino, so Collins has to be the attack dog, not too many businesses like him as much. He's more desperate. That's how we're gonna win guys. Go after struggling Congressmen and bribe them. Collins also got nothing from PBMs so has no reason to hold back. Also APhA and NACD and WAG/RAD also gave Collins $.

100:05 - Issa (republican banked by Express and UnitedHealth PACs, $6500 total YTD) attacking Balto

120:00 - OH NO SHE DIDN'T!

No one in Congress is speaking for anybody for free (although they seem quite cheap to buy). Overall, felt like a draw and most and Marino were trying to balance the two except for Issa and Collins.

tl;dr : lesson, money really does talk, especially going through the records. Money buys speech. And NCPA is fighting hard. But it doesn't have the financial strength of Fortune 100 companies. Oh and nothing really happened. And I knew Congress was dirty but after digging through, wow they're filthy. Oh and I also learned that omeprazole is a common antipsychotic, who knew?!

Impt note: What was really telling for me was that Walgreens and Rite Aid have been donating to various members of the antitrust committee, some back to 2013 (but smaller amounts). This hearing mentioned it and almost set up for that coming day when they or if they have to talk about it. Were they donating so that their merger would go smoothly in the end (since this is antitrust committee? Or donating to pressure PBMs or both? I guess it was brought up because they were told by WAG and RAD reps that it was an issue.

How can Congressmen make money, screw people over, AND stay in office + get re-elected? Hard to do...
 
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Thank you for your diligent efforts in reviewing this hearing. I agree that no one in congress speaks for FREE.

It is certainly nice to have Rep Collins finally voice the TRUTH. There are no redeeming qualities about the way that PBMs artificially control the market by setting their competitors price, limiting their competitors access to lives, limiting their competitors access to the dispensing of high dollar medications all the while COMPETING with those same entities and incentivizing patients to utilize pharmacies that PBMs have a financial interest in. It is as far from a FREE MARKET as any retail industry could be.

Their are 2 sides to this; the pro free market side, and the anti competitive, artificial market that PBMs have created.
 
Thank you for your diligent efforts in reviewing this hearing. I agree that no one in congress speaks for FREE.

It is certainly nice to have Rep Collins finally voice the TRUTH. There are no redeeming qualities about the way that PBMs artificially control the market by setting their competitors price, limiting their competitors access to lives, limiting their competitors access to the dispensing of high dollar medications all the while COMPETING with those same entities and incentivizing patients to utilize pharmacies that PBMs have a financial interest in. It is as far from a FREE MARKET as any retail industry could be.

Their are 2 sides to this; the pro free market side, and the anti competitive, artificial market that PBMs have created.

And the silly thing is some in congress or even the public will buy the "drug expenditures are kept cheaper or have been going down" mantra. Is it really? In the grand scheme count the plan premium in that "drug cost" along with your deductible and copay to see if the consumer or business is saving money. The "savings" go to PBM profit and I'd venture to say "spending" by the consumer has gone up while drug reimbursement has gone down or stayed flat and not shifting with generic pricing trends.

When I was at the independent for my rotation they showed me how the PBMs were trying to kill compounding with drugs no longer covered or billing by ingredients (and sometimes just covering cost). I saw them price reimbursement on drugs well below the actual cost to the tune of $70+ losses and many not being very high margins (like $5-20). The independent was part of a purchasing group so they could have some play in getting negotiated drug pricing when it comes to their ability to order meds, but the insurance companies were repeatedly trying to screw everyone over. I'm glad I had that rotation because I know at chains or other places some of that info is hidden.

One of my biggest beefs is they can incentivize or push the idea that it's required for patients to go through their mail-order PBM and in many cases the patient signs off a consent form freeing the mail-order gig from having to provide legal counselling requirements. It's all crooked.
 
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I will definitely donate. There are too many things which need to be corrected with the anti-competitive marketplace PBMs have created. Express Scripts no longer handing out contracts for new compounding pharmacies? The inability to provide "specialty" medications which have absolutely nothing special about them except their outrageous price tag? PBMs not being transparent with their clients and the health care industry. MAC lists which are bullshi* lists. PBMs which own pharmacies. A doctor cannot force a patient to go to a certain pharmacy, but a PBM can force patients to use only their own in house pharmacies? PBMs taking back money for "over-paying", but numerous amounts of appeals always denied for underpayments due to the reason "You have to find the drug cheaper somewhere else". PBMs taking money out of checks without warning.

F*CK these motherf*ckers. This is why insurance fraud happens, because these PBMs are too greedy, are not transparent, and are anti-competitive. CVS and Express.
 
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omeprazole, olanzapine, hey all a pharmacist has to do is just throw some stuff in a vial, right?

The key is what you just said. Only a pharmacist could prevent omeprazole from being switched with olanzapine. How many times have you caught a mistake like that?

Only a pharmacist would know that the omeprazole may make a patient's plavix less effective. Or that the same olanzapine could cause sudden death in the elderly and that Depakote may be a better option.

The fact is, as a pharmacist, YOU provide a valuable service to the healthcare system that YOU went to school almost 10 years to do. YOU deserve to be paid for it. YOU have the license and the responsibility and YOU can be sued.

These PBMs have cheapened OUR profession and provide nothing in return. They are no more than a middleman.

We should be paid at least a 10 dollar dispensing fee and the PBMs should be paid a modest processing fee.
 
The money trail definitely explained their positions, choice of words, tone in the hearing. For those who got money on both sides, they tried to "compromise" and juggle both sides while finding a common enemy "drug industry" (not in the hearing but also funded too, chiefly Pfizer, Merck, and Sanofi...potential future mergers?)

Let's give Balto credit too. Actually he was really hard on the PBM's. And thumbs up for NCPA for tackling this. I've got the feeling NCPA devoted a lot of time and money into getting this hearing and bringing CVS and Express Scripts as witnesses. And APhA is really useless, more useless than NACD.

It's not that much to buy these guys really...$5000 does the trick. Collins had 2 independent pharmacists pay $500 each. You can also form multiple PACs and then donate money to all those PACs to get around the limits. For example, the Eye of the Tiger PAC gets money from other PACS to give money

A good one to bribe is Ratcliffe R-Texas. Didn't know what on earth was going on in the hearing and gets no money from either side. His funding isn't that great either compared to Marino. He should be a relatively easy squeeze on that committee. If pharmacists got together and donated even 20K he'd be singing praises to independents.

I learned transparency is also very important in this debate. PBMs don't show the negotiated prices. Balto made a good point. As a client, I pay the PBM's to negotiate for lower prices. But they won't show me the prices they negotiated b/c it's "proprietary" and I have to just trust them. As a client, I should know if the PBM is really making good, faithful efforts to reduce my costs by seeing the prices.
Am I legally able to contribute if I don't live in his state?

I'm 99% sure you can. Anyone can view all the contributors for each Congressmen/women and you'll see a number out of state. Places like DC, VA, FL. Although it's also a source of debate, because the whole Citizens vs United allows foreign entities to put money into the race, putting foreign interests ahead of American citizens. And by donating out of state, I can influence policy in other states to benefit of my own and potentially the detriment to his/her own constituents.

It can be bad and good. But you may donate. I'd also be careful about privacy as all donor data is publicly available if itemized. Full name, address, occupation, although you could probably just lie (or maybe not if it's itemized)...well just know your name might be out in the public record depending how you donate.

Collins likes Capital Grille. Heck if you look at the disbursements, they have real luxury tastes. Hillary has spent some insane amounts (6 figures on Executive Fliteways)...they're all high class people...except Sanders it seems.
 
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