EVMS MCAT scores

[Zelda5000]

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Question: I have the GPA to apply for this program, but I just make the MCAT cutoff. I am worried about the relatively low MCAT score and wonder if it is at all possible to be accepted with it. Thx

 

[MDempress]

I too wonder the same thing. I have the GPA but that MCAT is pushing me to the bottom.

I called Ms Wilde and she said 23..................

🙁

 

[relentless11]

Their website says 23. However it must be noted with such programs that they will always encourage those that meet the requirements to apply. But does not guarantee admission since: (1) i'm sure many people apply like with all things, (2) they will most likely want people who would most likely be admitted to med school (e.g., have a high enough GPA/MCAT to work with) given the curriculum is only 1 year long. Their FAQ says they have a 75% success rate, given there isn't a linkage program, that would imply they have people who boost their stats to the point of meeting quantitatively (GPA/MCAT) and qualitatively the standards imposed by most med schools.

It will probably come down to who is applying for the slots that you are applying for, rather than what your stats are. Good luck!

 

[Banjo64dd]

I actually applied to the EVMS program under the false assumption that if I barely made the cutoff (I had a 23) that I might have a chance of getting in. Well, maybe three years ago, but the number of applicants to SMP programs has increased incredibly over the years ( or year I should say). Last year, EVMS had 35 applicants for which they accepted 24. This year they had 123 applicants for which they had room for only 27. As a result, from talking to other EVMS applicants on the forum, it looked like the average MCAT for accepted students was around 31: BELIEVE IT OR NOT!!! The same goes for Ohio (very similar scenario). These schools want to build a reputation for their smp programs so they are going to choose people who most likely could have gotten into medschool with their scores but ran into some bad luck. Either that or you must be a minority to get in.

Bottom Line: There is no way around the MCAT fellas. You need a high score regardless.

 

[Zelda5000]

I actually applied to the EVMS program under the false assumption that if I barely made the cutoff (I had a 23) that I might have a chance of getting in. Well, maybe three years ago, but the number of applicants to SMP programs has increased incredibly over the years ( or year I should say). Last year, EVMS had 35 applicants for which they accepted 24. This year they had 123 applicants for which they had room for only 27. As a result, from talking to other EVMS applicants on the forum, it looked like the average MCAT for accepted students was around 31: BELIEVE IT OR NOT!!! The same goes for Ohio (very similar scenario). These schools want to build a reputation for their smp programs so they are going to choose people who most likely could have gotten into medschool with their scores but ran into some bad luck. Either that or you must be a minority to get in.

Bottom Line: There is no way around the MCAT fellas. You need a high score regardless.

I have tried to think of ways around the MCAT, and I came up with none, so I took it for a second time and 6 months of hard studies gave me almost nothing. I was rather disappointed. Any more infor I can get would be helpful. Would it even be worth it to e-mail Dr. Meyer?

Are you re-taking the MCAT? What about volunteer, clinical and work experiance? Do you think they count for anything or does it all come down to the numbers?

 

[relentless11]

I have tried to think of ways around the MCAT, and I came up with none, so I took it for a second time and 6 months of hard studies gave me almost nothing. I was rather disappointed. Any more infor I can get would be helpful. Would it even be worth it to e-mail Dr. Meyer?

Are you re-taking the MCAT? What about volunteer, clinical and work experiance? Do you think they count for anything or does it all come down to the numbers?

I don't think it would hurt to try to call Dr. Meyer, but my bigger concern would be your MCAT issue. As stated by Banjo64dd and myself, such programs want people who will have a high chance of getting in. In addition to that, you will complete with people with high GPA/MCAT. Given your two tries at taking the MCAT, and as you put it, the dissappointing results both times, I would suggest that you rethink how you study for the MCAT, or consider alternatives. Even if you get into the EVMS program, you will still have to have a good MCAT score to get into med school. Based on my experience with our med schools here in CA, and various post-bacc programs, the GPA/MCAT issue is HUGE.

Extracurriculars are SECONDARY given that a person can volunteer their lives to humanitarian aid, but still have non-competative GPA/MCAT scores. This tells adcoms that you are at high risk for not surviving the first two years of med school and/or not passing standardized exams (e.g., the USMLE). The same applies to post-bacc, grad programs, and SMPs. I've stated this in previous threads, such programs, including med schools want to see results rather than unrelated factors and empty promises. We can all understand that someone who has good grades and good MCAT scores has a higher chance of surviving med school or SMPs. There are certainly exceptions, but here one must draw the line between your grades not showing your true abilities vs. just hoping that you will "do well" when you're in the program.

I've known people that had some other issue that prevented them from doing well in school or on the MCAT. Upon resolution, they excelled in whatever they did. Conversely, I've known people who said they just need to get into some program, say med school, or a post-bacc program, to motivate themselves to do well. Sadly, they end up failing out of the program. Two years ago one such person failed out of a med school, and that is quite embarassing..and for the most part, no US med school would accept him if he reapplies. Therefore, although I encourage you to seek more info about what to do (e.g., call Dr. Meyer if need be), I also recommend doing some soul searching about WHY your MCAT score has not improved despite taking it twice.

 

[Zelda5000]

Thank you for your advice. The MCAT is flat out my only issue at this point. I have read on many posts that a school's concern about the MCAT is partly related to other standarized exams and I understand why that might be. Part of the reason that either of these exams may not have gone well for me is due to my full time job which requires traveling. Both times I have taken this test, I have been working the 9 to 5 job and it can be quite taxing to work and then go to one of these test prep classes then home to study. I have also been out of school for four years at this point, so the knowledge is definitely fading and bringing all back was difficult.

I would like to apply to the post bac program, but my feeling is that I do not want to waste anyones time (either mine or that of EVMS) if they will not accept me due to a boarderline score. So I figured I would gather all the information I could before I e-mail Dr. Meyer to ask for his professional opinion.

I also have to ask myself at this point if EVMS will change the MCAT cut off that is need to a higher score if that is what they are truly looking for.