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I wish I could find it, but there is an essay/theory I once read (maybe an economist?) that one of the most dangerous things to the stability of a society is an over educated but under employed segment of young people.
The ?irony? here to me is that phantom "anti-trust lawsuit threat" about contracting spots isn't a real thing. It was a made up excuse to "protect" them from legal issues that didn't exist.
What may very well be a real thing is an under employed segment of highly educated rad oncs looking at legal recourse for residency programs expanding slots with the evidence right there in the medical journals about a declining role for radiation...and expansion causing them and society ("I could have been a primary care doc instead") injury.
Of course it would probably result in nothing but attorney fees ...but it's in my Overton window of what could happen in the next decade.
The ?irony? here to me is that phantom "anti-trust lawsuit threat" about contracting spots isn't a real thing. It was a made up excuse to "protect" them from legal issues that didn't exist.
What may very well be a real thing is an under employed segment of highly educated rad oncs looking at legal recourse for residency programs expanding slots with the evidence right there in the medical journals about a declining role for radiation...and expansion causing them and society ("I could have been a primary care doc instead") injury.
Of course it would probably result in nothing but attorney fees ...but it's in my Overton window of what could happen in the next decade.
i would contribute heavily to crowdsourcing such a lawsuit or any campaign in congress against ROCRI wish I could find it, but there is an essay/theory I once read (maybe an economist?) that one of the most dangerous things to the stability of a society is an over educated but under employed segment of young people.
The ?irony? here to me is that phantom "anti-trust lawsuit threat" about contracting spots isn't a real thing. It was a made up excuse to "protect" them from legal issues that didn't exist.
What may very well be a real thing is an under employed segment of highly educated rad oncs looking at legal recourse for residency programs expanding slots with the evidence right there in the medical journals about a declining role for radiation...and expansion causing them and society ("I could have been a primary care doc instead") injury.
Of course it would probably result in nothing but attorney fees ...but it's in my Overton window of what could happen in the next decade.
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A group of unemployed new grads suing SCAROP for intentionally overtraining to flood the market and salary suppression would have a pretty delicious discovery phase.
Like the unemployed lawyers who sued lower tier law schools for being jobless after they graduated a decade agoI wish I could find it, but there is an essay/theory I once read (maybe an economist?) that one of the most dangerous things to the stability of a society is an over educated but under employed segment of young people.
The ?irony? here to me is that phantom "anti-trust lawsuit threat" about contracting spots isn't a real thing. It was a made up excuse to "protect" them from legal issues that didn't exist.
What may very well be a real thing is an under employed segment of highly educated rad oncs looking at legal recourse for residency programs expanding slots with the evidence right there in the medical journals about a declining role for radiation...and expansion causing them and society ("I could have been a primary care doc instead") injury.
Of course it would probably result in nothing but attorney fees ...but it's in my Overton window of what could happen in the next decade.
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yes. but I think the law schools were cooking the books with false "employment" stats for their graduates.Like the unemployed lawyers who sued lower tier law schools for being jobless after the graduated a decade ago
...wait a second, that sounds familiar.
did the lawyers win?
Nodid the lawyers win?
Unemployed Lawyer Loses Suit Against Former School | Fortune
She has more than $150,000 in student debt
Court throws out law school "rip off" suit
A state judge ruled that New York Law School did not mislead its students about their job prospects
Maybe we need a thread regarding the opposite of this one? First it was Anderson and Cleveland clinic, now maybe Emory doing the right thing?
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Could be more like Emory realizing they should contract after that shameful year that they SOAPed 4/4 spots but I'll take the wins anywhere we can get them. Maybe the infusion of a new, non-boomer chair is helping a change in departmental mindset.
IMO if you have 3 or more spots per year and EVER SOAP 100% of them, you should immediately have to shut down one spot per year.
If you have 2 spots per year and SOAP 100% of them for 2 consecutive years, you should immediately have to shut down one spot per year.
If you SOAP 1 spot per year for 3 consecutive years, you lose it.
IMO if you have 3 or more spots per year and EVER SOAP 100% of them, you should immediately have to shut down one spot per year.
If you have 2 spots per year and SOAP 100% of them for 2 consecutive years, you should immediately have to shut down one spot per year.
If you SOAP 1 spot per year for 3 consecutive years, you lose it.
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We shouldn't even have programs open now that only match one per year (or the alternating 1-2 spots)
There simply isn't a need, why not consolidate in other places
There simply isn't a need, why not consolidate in other places
Despite SDN members articulating the need as shown in this nice GIF, I fully expect ASTRO leadership to do
Fun project
www.soapscore.com
Cost of domain: $11.99
A persistent record of SOAP usage by residency programs, with visuals
Annual graphics and an analysis of specialties, job market, as well as problems with individual institutions. Emailed and hand delivered to the deans of the top 50 medical schools, as well as MS1’s
Monetization: ads
www.soapscore.com
Cost of domain: $11.99
A persistent record of SOAP usage by residency programs, with visuals
Annual graphics and an analysis of specialties, job market, as well as problems with individual institutions. Emailed and hand delivered to the deans of the top 50 medical schools, as well as MS1’s
Monetization: ads
Soapscore eh?
Maybe we need a thread regarding the opposite of this one? First it was Anderson and Cleveland clinic, now maybe Emory doing the right thing?
It will be interesting to see if this is true, ie the program formally contracts the available ACGME approved position. Or if this is a in house program level soft contraction where the spot can be filled at any time in future cycles.
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Despite SDN members articulating the need as shown in this nice GIF, I fully expect ASTRO leadership to do
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Why is the "absolutely nothing" from UHF gif not available? Picked the closest.
Both Emory and UPMC have been aggressive soapers in the recent past.
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Surprised about comment about upmc being better, was thinking about this.
RadOncs’s teacher (like everyone in the world gets taught by him) left the program. Heath seems like a nice guy. The other faculty .. are they teaching in a way to make up for the loss? When I was there he was only one teaching, except for some minor contributions.
I wonder if it’s “better” because no expectations to excel …
RadOncs’s teacher (like everyone in the world gets taught by him) left the program. Heath seems like a nice guy. The other faculty .. are they teaching in a way to make up for the loss? When I was there he was only one teaching, except for some minor contributions.
I wonder if it’s “better” because no expectations to excel …
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I heard Dwight was a great teacher ?Surprised about comment about upmc being better, was thinking about this.
RadOncs’s teacher (like everyone in the world gets taught by him) left the program. Heath seems like a nice guy. The other faculty .. are they teaching in a way to make up for the loss? When I was there he was only one teaching, except for some minor contributions.
I wonder if it’s “better” because no expectations to excel …
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Um… I like Dr Heron a lotI heard Dwight was a great teacher ?
When I was on a rotation with him, he was always traveling and doing admin. He was running a 30 center network (the chair doesn’t manage operations), traveling the world, he simply didn’t have the bandwidth.
I believe before my time you may be right
(cough) multimillion dollar discrimination lawsuit and red light therapy centers touting health benefits...Dwight Heron seems like he would’ve been a great mentor, someone to sit down and talk through goals and action plans, and someone to advocate for you.
Signs of greatness...
(borat screams NOT!)
Wonder how those red light centers are going, Roxanne? I’m too lazy to Google it.(cough) multimillion dollar discrimination lawsuit and red light therapy centers touting health benefits...
Signs of greatness...
(borat screams NOT!)
Dwight hands this out to first day PGY2sI heard Dwight was a great teacher ?
Dwight be banished to Ohio.
Cause that's what happens man..
-Stewie
Cause that's what happens man..
-Stewie
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Succession Stewie or Family Guy Stewie?Dwight be banished to Ohio.
Cause that's what happens man..
-Stewie
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