Expressing Interest to Favorite Programs...

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I think I finally have a working rank list afters hours of deliberation! I was wondering if any of you had any ideas on the best way to express interest to your top programs. Since I don't have the time or money for second visits, I thought I might send them an email or a phone call. Any ideas or advice?

Thanks, Good luck to Everyone! 😀
 
If this step is important to you, I would advise you to either send a follow-up note (to your initial thank you) explaining that you've finished your interviews and letting your top program(s) know how they stand with you. If the place is your first choice it's OK to say so. Making a phone call has a few downsides. One, if you're calling your ultimate #1 you always risk getting rattled and coming off a little less than smooth; with writing you can always make sure you say things exactly how you want. Two, phone calls always open the door for unexpected questions being launched in your direction that may catch you off guard. Last, you never know what you're interrupting when you call. Any PD would view a call from a potential resident as important, but if they were right in the middle of something big they may seem a little distracted, and you might interpret this as put off/not interested in you. Personally I think a written note is classier than an email, but I think in today's age I'm in the minority.

Letting a program know they're your number 1 or 2 is almost never going to be a critical exercise, but I think it's a good move in some cases. For one thing, kind of like taking a woman with a threatened abortion off work to rest for a few days, it gives you the sense that you did all you can do about a situation you don't have full control over. Here are a few other scenarios: 1. you are an applicant whose current life situation would suggest there is little chance you would go to a particular program, yet you have decided to make them number one (for example, we interviewed someone awesome this year whose spouse was already an intern at a program in another state; the assumption is that person would be wanting to match at their spouse's institution) 2. You are from "far away" and did rotations "far away" and aren't confident that the program got the sense that you would be likely to move (due to family roots, "whole life" spent in that state, whatever) or 3. You are a "local" but did rotations at another institution either within the same city/region (suggesting a preference for a different program), or in a far away locale (suggest you may be looking for a move geographically). If you are local to the program AND did a rotation at the program, sending a letter would probably not benefit you any further.

I have been involved in resident selection for many years and can honestly say: 1. the topic of an applicant's likelihood of selecting our program is occasionally discussed 2. getting knowledge of an applicant's "unexpected" love for our program is a pleasant suprise and may hit us on some emotional level 3. that emotional level rarely if ever translates into a significant rise/fall on the ultimate rank list. If you were awesome when we met you, you're probably already in good position, and if you didn't fit, a letter isn't going to make you fit any better. Really where you should focus on showing your interest is in the interview up front. Nothing is a bigger turnoff than an applicant yawning/nodding off during their interview or simply making no effort to seem interested. In my opinion, that's where the most critical moment lies.

One last thing...don't lie about your interest. Most people get their first choice or very close to it; so don't tell your #7 that they are #1. It's wrong, and EM is still a very small world. And PDs have memories like elephants.

Good luck guys!
 
Thanks for the great post. 😀
 
thanks very much for that post. and i learned something new: apparently elephants have big brains?
 
2nd that--thanks for the great post
 
thanks very much for that post. and i learned something new: apparently elephants have big brains?
The matriarch of a herd of elephants can remember watering holes visited 40+ years ago, for example, which is vital to the survival of the herd at times. The brain itself is only 3-4x bigger than the human brain. Now if only the USMLE would ask questions like this.... I would be a rock star! Unfortunately not. Now back to your regularly scheduled thread.
 
The matriarch of a herd of elephants can remember watering holes visited 40+ years ago, for example, which is vital to the survival of the herd at times. The brain itself is only 3-4x bigger than the human brain. Now if only the USMLE would ask questions like this.... I would be a rock star! Unfortunately not. Now back to your regularly scheduled thread.

Yeesh, what a group! Not exactly the point of my rambling post that I THOUGHT would generate conversation. You nuts are definitely wired for EM.

Thanks for teaching me about elephants. Before now, I was just using the analogy on blind faith that it was accurate. Guess that's why I choose to log on to SDN instead of working on my mountain of delinquent ED charts.
 
Yeesh, what a group! Not exactly the point of my rambling post that I THOUGHT would generate conversation. You nuts are definitely wired for EM.

Thanks for teaching me about elephants. Before now, I was just using the analogy on blind faith that it was accurate. Guess that's why I choose to log on to SDN instead of working on my mountain of delinquent ED charts.

Welcome to the EM world at SDN, we call it home. 👍
 
okay...but any eloquent ways of telling your second or third fav. program that they are in the top....

For example, does "I intend to rank you at the top of my list" sound too much like I intend to rank you number one???
 
I used "near the top" they know the deal..
 
Yeesh, what a group! Not exactly the point of my rambling post that I THOUGHT would generate conversation. You nuts are definitely wired for EM.

Thanks for teaching me about elephants. Before now, I was just using the analogy on blind faith that it was accurate. Guess that's why I choose to log on to SDN instead of working on my mountain of delinquent ED charts.
I appreciate your thoughts on the topic and I am sure many others do as well. The elephant education was not meant to hijack the thread, just add some spice. We are exchanging information on this forum and hopefully having a bit of fun while doing so.
 
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