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Hello,
I'm currently a 4th yr medical student. Wondering if most residency programs allow you to have an extra job during residency. I currently tutor 2 nights a week and would like to continue to do so next year.
 
Most residencies have rules about moonlighting but these generally refer to clinical activities outside your residency. Tutoring would not likely be banned/Restricted.

However please consider that residency is a full-time job and you're expected to study your specialty after Hours. In addition you want to have some semblance of social life or time to do normal activities after hours. The extra money you make tutoring may not be worth it.
 
Agree with WS as usual. In addition, keep in mind your hours will not always be daytime, and may very well be more than 12 hours a day. You will have weeks of nights. You don't get to choose which days you work, or ask to get off early/come in late (generally - there are a very few exceptions).

Any tutoring plans you have won't always work out. Of course, if your students can be very flexible it is possible.
 
Tutoring doesn't count as clinical work, therefore I don't think it falls under moonlighting or work hours.

Do it. It's 2 hours.
 
Not sure how you have time for another job. As you know Residency is like two jobs. I know extra money is so valuable and needed during residency. I think tutoring is the most you can do until you get into a fellowship where generally moonlighting is permitted.
 
Depends on your residency; many fields have fewer demands on your time. However, all fields require reading and study outside of clinical duties.
 
Hello,
I'm currently a 4th yr medical student. Wondering if most residency programs allow you to have an extra job during residency. I currently tutor 2 nights a week and would like to continue to do so next year.

Depends which field you are going into for one. If you go into neurosurgery I doubt you'll have a lot of time. If you go into derm, I'm sure you'll have some time.

Unless you really love tutoring, financially it will likely not make much sense. If you just want to tutor for the sake of tutoring I don't think most programs would have an issue with it since it's clinical work. If you are looking for extra $$ during residency, however, there are far more profitable things you can do.
 
Unless, like a friend of mine, you're doing SAT tutoring in NYC for $250/hr and MCAT tutoring for $350/hr. I challenge you to find a more lucrative PT gig than that.

Well, maybe you know some people in very high places, but I have never heard of anyone ever paying or getting paid either of those two figures for either SAT or MCAT. Even in NY, those are pretty stiff rates, and since you seem to be a realist, I find it hard to believe that you would think that's the standard that most residents could get? Who in their right mind would pay that and what kind of people would be able to afford that?

I can tell you that derm locums pays 250-300/hr, but again I realize that's for a very small minority of people that could access something like that. I can also tell you that doing consults for opioids pays almost 2k for 1/2 a day at some places, but that also has moral i guess issues with it so it's pointless to even point them out.

So while your friend may have some people charge those rates, most people cannot afford them or charge them.
 
For some UES trust fund babies I assume?

upper esophageal sphincter?


I'll show myself out. I had to Google UES to see what else it might mean though.

I can tell you that derm locums pays 250-300/hr, but again I realize that's for a very small minority of people that could access something like that.
I can verify that. I've got a friend here getting exactly that. Mindblowing.
 
upper esophageal sphincter?


I'll show myself out. I had to Google UES to see what else it might mean though.


I can verify that. I've got a friend here getting exactly that. Mindblowing.


I wondered about the UES as well. I guess it's upper east side?
My point with the whole derm thing was to point out that it's pointless to talk about gigs that are super high paying that only a handful of people can do. So me saying oh ya some derm residents moonlight at this $$ is pointless bc few people are derm residents to begin with and ever fewer moonlight.

Same with gutonc's high end SAT/MCAT tutoring. While a very small amount of people may be able to get that type of $$, most won't get more than 20-30 bucks an hour if that.

But between the 20-30$/hr to the 250-350 that he suggests there are a good number of options that just about everyone can take advantage of, and that's what I was referring to.

Doing medicare evals, weight loss evals, etc. pays pretty decently, with minimal work, and again, is accessible to anyone with an MD and a bit of free time.
 
I'll have time to do this at least 1-2 nights a week next year. The pay isn't great but I actually enjoy doing it so I think I'm going to.
 
Most residencies have rules about moonlighting but these generally refer to clinical activities outside your residency. Tutoring would not likely be banned/Restricted.

However please consider that residency is a full-time job and you're expected to study your specialty after Hours. In addition you want to have some semblance of social life or time to do normal activities after hours. The extra money you make tutoring may not be worth it.

Do you happen to know if this includes public safety type gigs?
 
Yes, in NYC UES= Upper East Side. Typically thought of as the wealthiest section of the city. Though I've seen a few statistics showing this is changing. Upper West Side (UWS) is starting to become wealthier.
 
Central Park West has usually been known to be one of the more wealthy, if not the wealthiest parts of NYC. If you can get a job working for anyone living there or the UES, especially to get their kids into the best school possible, they'll pay you whatever you want if you've got proof that you're a great tutor.

If you can even afford to buy a parking spot, you can afford to send your kid through all sorts of prep-schools and high-end tutoring programs.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/05/r...ges-and-parking-lots.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
 
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