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[BJJVP]

Is there any benefit to becoming a fellow of ACEP? Or is it simply another merit badge?

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[deleted65604]

I see none. However, I am about to apply to become a fellow so that I don't have to add "I'm board certified" after my name. By being a member of ACEP, I get a couple of publications to read and stay up to date with, and I figure it is my obligation to fund the one organization who is lobbying for MY rights. It seems every other organization in the country in essence is trying to take my rights away. If I'm going to throw money at ACEP, I might as well get fellow status while I'm at it.

 

[docB]

It's not even a merit badge in the sense that ACLS and ATLS are merit badges. It has equated to board certification but ACEP diluted that a few years back by allowing a few non boarded people to become fellows. That said I am a fellow and I keep it up because I do feel I should support a group that is out there lobbying on my behalf. They really are our main voice nationally.

 

[GeneralVeers]

It's not even a merit badge in the sense that ACLS and ATLS are merit badges. It has equated to board certification but ACEP diluted that a few years back by allowing a few non boarded people to become fellows. That said I am a fellow and I keep it up because I do feel I should support a group that is out there lobbying on my behalf. They really are our main voice nationally.

I don't really see what the $100 gets me, beyond some letters after my name.

IMO your dollars are better spent supporting NEMPAC who do the actual lobbying.

 

[FLTDOC1]

The reason I dropped my FACEP: Prior to the year 2000, the only requirements to become a member of ACEP was a MD/DO and an interest in emergency medicine. A significant percentage of ACEPs current membership has no formal training in emergency medicine. ACEP will not release these statistics.

But on the plus side .. since 2000 they essentially require residency training in EM as a condition of membership ( should have done it in 1988 when the grandfather pathway closed). ACEP does do significant lobbying for EM. They also refuse to accept BCEM as a "certifying body" in EM

 

[deleted206819]

Is there any benefit to becoming a fellow of ACEP? Or is it simply another merit badge?

Any comments / criticisms about FAEEM? Is there a difference between the two WRT employment, hospital credentials, etc?

 

[thorg12]

I'm a big fan of aaem. I really feel like they care about the individual doc. I've been to their conferences and met some of the leadership and am thoroughly impressed with them. On the other hand I haven't been to acep stuff but am pretty disappointed with some of the ex leadership selling out to big management companies. Obviously I'm a fan I the academy. Join today

 

[DrQuinn]

I like both ACEP and AAEM. I do think however that ACEP has a bigger voice in DC, but I do like how AAEM really fights for the individual physician.

I am only an FACEP. I didn't really feel like paying two separate dues, even though its a business write off....

And you just have to be a member of ACEP for 5 years to get FACEP I believe.
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[docB]

Some discussion of AAEM compared to ACEP here.

 

[Hercules]

There's a few more hoops to jump through for FACEP. After being out for 3 years, I think they have a list of 11 or so items and you have to check off 3 (research, committee work, resident teaching, etc). I'm in the process of filling out the paperwork now.

 

[Arcan57]

Would like to emphasize GV's comments re: NEMPAC. On a state and national level they are the premier EM lobbying organization and if you can't see the benefit of having out interests represented than I'd be happy to discuss it.

 

[Apollyon]

There's a few more hoops to jump through for FACEP. After being out for 3 years, I think they have a list of 11 or so items and you have to check off 3 (research, committee work, resident teaching, etc). I'm in the process of filling out the paperwork now.

Be active, life, honorary, or international members for three continuous years immediately prior to election and must have been certified in emergency medicine at the time of election by the American Board of Emergency Medicine, the American Osteopathic Board of Emergency Medicine, or in pediatric emergency medicine by the American Board of Pediatrics. Maintenance of Fellow status requires continued membership in the College. In addition, the following requirements demonstrating evidence of high professional standing must be met by candidates some time during their professional career prior to application.

At least three years of active involvement in emergency medicine as the physician's chief professional activity, exclusive of training, and;
Satisfaction of at least three of the following individual criteria during their professional career:
active involvement, beyond holding membership, in voluntary health organizations, organized medical societies, or voluntary community health planning activities or service as an elected or appointed public official;
active involvement in hospital affairs, such as medical staff committees, as attested by the emergency department director or chief of staff;
active involvement in the formal teaching of emergency medicine to physicians, nurses, medical students, out-of-hospital care personnel, or the public;
active involvement in emergency medicine administration or departmental affairs;
active involvement in an emergency medical services system;
research in emergency medicine;
active involvement in ACEP chapter activities as attested by the chapter president or chapter executive director;
member of a national ACEP committee, the ACEP Council, or national Board of Directors;
examiner for, director of, or involvement in test development and/or administration for the American Board of Emergency Medicine or the American Osteopathic Board of Emergency Medicine;
reviewer for or editor or listed author of a published scientific article or reference material in the field of emergency medicine in a recognized journal or book.


That's right off the website, so the formatting is a bit wonky.

 

[Apollyon]

Hey - that's interesting...you can be an AOBEM diplomate and get FACEP. I remember a guy when I was a med student who was an attending at Newark-Beth Israel. He was FACOEP. I wonder if, being an ABEM diplomate, I can apply for FACOEP? [/sarcasm]