So I found out that I failed my Sub-I in Pediatrics. He failed me because of one instance where I screwed up which I dont want to go into details. I already matched in residency. My official graduation date is June 12. So I can technically still make it up before then. My question is can a program revoke my contract or deny me because of this failed rotation? I know I have to send them my final transcripts so its going to show. I am worried.
Failed a Sub-I prior to start of residency
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You matched there. As long as you still graduate on time to start, they're required to let you start the program.
That said, they could see what happened and put you under a closer microscope when you get there. Or they might not. It may also lead to difficulties with the licensing board in the future (but as long as you graduate on time, likely not many more difficulties than having to submit a written explanation).
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All I can say is wow! I mean yes. you are still a student but come on, you technically already graduated. Unless you killed a baby, punched an attending or didn't show up at all, most people would let things slide.
The latter can even be excused since "senioritis" surely kicks in after the match. Maybe this is a scenario where more details are needed but damn that sucks!
The latter can even be excused since "senioritis" surely kicks in after the match. Maybe this is a scenario where more details are needed but damn that sucks!
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I'm guessing you didn't match into peds. If you did then this may be a bigger deal. Other programs with lots of pt interaction may also take this more seriously. In the end though they can't deny you your contracted position but as mentioned they can put you on probation or some other way where you are closer to being fired.
Contrary to what was suggested above - this will absolutely have no bearing on your licensing as long as you graduate on time without any sort of institutional action.
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Contrary to what was suggested above - this will absolutely have no bearing on your licensing as long as you graduate on time without any sort of institutional action.
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If he matched into a non-Peds program (which begs the Q - why the hell did you do a Peds sub-I???) if I was a PD I would not put him on probation or a closer leash.
Peds folks I've met have been notorious douchebags when it comes to evals.
Honestly, it'd be good to know what happened. I would never rip someone on an eval if they showed up and pretended to care. A lot of times I let them go home early even if I'm the senior res on service. We did have one who never showed up and the one time he did, he was 3hrs late to clinic and had no real good excuse. He did that with other residents too. So we flunked him. If you want a free pass, rotate with a doc in the community but don't waste our time. All I ask is for the person to show up. Then if I want him/her to leave early, I'll do that. Med school is 4 years, not 3.5 years or 3 years, 7 months.
Peds folks I've met have been notorious douchebags when it comes to evals.
Honestly, it'd be good to know what happened. I would never rip someone on an eval if they showed up and pretended to care. A lot of times I let them go home early even if I'm the senior res on service. We did have one who never showed up and the one time he did, he was 3hrs late to clinic and had no real good excuse. He did that with other residents too. So we flunked him. If you want a free pass, rotate with a doc in the community but don't waste our time. All I ask is for the person to show up. Then if I want him/her to leave early, I'll do that. Med school is 4 years, not 3.5 years or 3 years, 7 months.
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Fix it and don't look back.
But sub-I is meant to be a tiny window to life as a resident so if you don't learn from whatever mistake you made you conceivably might be in for a rough intern year. It doesn't ever get "easier" than post-match med school.
But sub-I is meant to be a tiny window to life as a resident so if you don't learn from whatever mistake you made you conceivably might be in for a rough intern year. It doesn't ever get "easier" than post-match med school.
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Back in the day, my medical school required all graduating students to take two subi's... one medical (inpatient IM vs inpatient peds vs inpatient FM) and one surgical (any surgical subspecialty worked). Wanted to do psych? Have fun on your medicine and surgical oncology subis. Or whatever combination you ended up getting since it was your last priority. They've redone the requirements a little bit since then, but still require random intense rotations.
I (an internist now) did an April M4 Urology sub-i that I gave *no* !@#$s during and likely barely passed. In an alternate universe if the clerkship director was an arse or if I was even lazier, it's possible he could have low passed (or god-forbid failed) me. It's entirely possible the same thing happened to the OP.
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Sure.
But a Peds sub-I?!
I was going anesthesia and we only required to have 1 sub-I and I did an inpatient medicine month. If I had to do 2, I would have done a surgical sub-I as well.
The only folks who ought to even consider Peds are those doing something Peds oriented. Peds is an odd rotation to be honest and one can easily look bad if not interested and I've known faculty and residents who get their panties in a wad rather easily.
Surgeons don't care if you aren't going surgery. Medicine is more like Peds but not nearly as bad. Hell, on my medicine sub-I, I had to come into work the day after match and I was ON CALL. Luckily, the resident on the service let me go home at midnight after I did the first 5 admissions solo and precepted to the attending.
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Absolutely.
But a Peds sub-I?!
At least pick something more fundamental unless going Peds, at which point then OP could end up having quite a bit of issues prior to coming into residency if they got wind of this.
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we were required to do a medicine sub i as well as a peds sub i so some schools may require it.
