Failed Course in Basic Sciences

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Hello all!
Just curious to see what happens to a student in your school when he/she fails a class during basic sciences? Do they repeat the whole semester/year or do they get automatic dismissal?
Also, how severe might be the potential complications be further down the line? Thanks in advance!

If you read the charter, it's actually AAMC policy to immediately dismiss any student who fails a basic science exam. Any school that does not follow this policy is in danger of losing accreditation.

Scary huh?

NO but seriously, I failed 4/7 tests before I was finally asked to repeat first year. I had a really good reason to fail all those tests, but regardless my school was fanatical about not letting me fail out of med school. Then after repeating first year I failed a test in second year as well. I just did it again at the end of the year and passed it.

Even if you take out all the empathetic, altruistic reasons for a school to want a student to not fail, it is in their own best interest for a number of reasons to do their damnedest to pass every student (except of course issues of plagiarism, unprofessional conduct, etc.)
 
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Yeah, I figured there was some AAMC policy about that. What about failing a whole class? Is that COMPLETELY unheard of??

Nope. At my school, if you fail a few classes but pass 67% of the total curriculum, you take make-up exams in the summer for each class failed. If you don't pass your summer make-up exams, you repeat M1 year. For those who pass less than 67% of the curriculum, you automatically repeat M1 year. It's tough to fail out of school.

We had a few people fail "Human Development" (think Psych 101), and more had trouble in Neuroanatomy. Not ideal, but it happens.
 
Yeah, I figured there was some AAMC policy about that. What about failing a whole class? Is that COMPLETELY unheard of??
Quite common, actually.
 
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Hello all!
Just curious to see what happens to a student in your school when he/she fails a class during basic sciences? Do they repeat the whole semester/year or do they get automatic dismissal?
Also, how severe might be the potential complications be further down the line? Thanks in advance!


At the two medical schools where I am faculty, you can fail two courses in basic science as long as you pass the remediations during the summer. If you fail remediation, you are out.

If a student fails one exam, they have to retake that exam during the summer, they get a conditional pass with the condition that they retake that one exam during the summer.

Most people who fail one or even two classes get things settled during the summer. Very rarely does a student end up on academic dismissal unless there are severe circumstances. In that event, we try to offer Leave of Absence until the circumstances get taken care of.

In terms of "down the line", as long as these folks pass USMLE Step I and do well clinically during third year, they are fine. No, they won't make Derm, Ortho (or AOA) but they are able to match into solid residencies in most specialties even anesthesia. They just can't fail anything else.
 
At Wayne for pathophys we can fail two exams out of the nine and still pass the course. If you fail you have to do a retake in the summer.

For the other courses you have to pass overall for the course or you have to do a retake over the summer with random questions straight from the old exams.
 
I think we get something like four chances to make up a failed class before u start getting sent to the uh oh committee.
 
Yeah, I figured there was some AAMC policy about that. What about failing a whole class? Is that COMPLETELY unheard of??

I'm pretty sure that the Juilliard School of Medicine changed its curriculum and had to fail its entire first year class every year from 1978 until 1983. Then they ran out of tuition money and got shut down.

Now, of course, schools are much more careful about feasibility assessments for large curricula changes.
 
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