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Fallback: Law School?
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Not me.
Thanks Freddy. That's a pretty sweet first post.
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Umm..have you've tried the LSAT? I think it's harder than the MCAT!!!! Not to mention, Law School is about as competitive as Med School--I mean if you want the top programs in like Patent Law, Intellectual Property, Criminal Law, etc...
Law schools arent as competitive, some schools Ive seen have average Gpas below 3.2
Law schools arent as competitive, some schools Ive seen have average Gpas below 3.2
Those aren't the good/highly ranked law schools. Like I said, if you want to go to NYU Law (one of the tops), you probably need a 3.7 and a LSAT score 170 or above.
It's still competitive. Plus, law schools don't usually give interviews; so it's all up to your stats and essays.
<wishful thinking> Can we keep this conversation to those who plan to go to law school as a fallback, rather than what it takes to get into law school? The latter is well established. </wishful thinking>
<wishful thinking> Can we keep this conversation to those who plan to go to law school as a fallback, rather than what it takes to get into law school (or excel as a lawyer)? The latter is well established. </wishful thinking>
Why are you using, of all things, Law school as a fallback, if I may ask? I mean, are you a science major? It's one thing to say, "I want to go into med school," it's an entirely different thing to say, "I'm going to go to law school if I don't in the med school."
It doesn't make sense; they're two totally different things, and if you're using one as a fallback, then, in my opinion, you shouldn't go into it because it's a fallback, and not where your heart is (read: the admissions committee will be able to tell).
Right, I am sure its highly competitive to get into the top law schools, just as it is highly competitive to get into the top pHD programs. However, if you just want to get into Law school it is quite a bit easier than med school. Still competitive just not as much.Those aren't the good/highly ranked law schools. Like I said, if you want to go to NYU Law (one of the tops), you probably need a 3.7 and a LSAT score 170 or above.
It's still competitive. Plus, law schools don't usually give interviews; so it's all up to your stats and essays.
Right, I am sure its highly competitive to get into the top law schools, just as it is highly competitive to get into the top pHD programs. However, if you just want to get into Law school it is quite a bit easier than med school. Still competitive just not as much.
Right, I totally agree😉. I don't know why I said that..lol; I have a pre-law friend, and sometimes she chimes out things when I moan about pre-med competitiveness... She was speaking for me! lol
Why are you using, of all things, Law school as a fallback, if I may ask? I mean, are you a science major? It's one thing to say, "I want to go into med school," it's an entirely different thing to say, "I'm going to go to law school if I don't in the med school."
It doesn't make sense; they're two totally different things, and if you're using one as a fallback, then, in my opinion, you shouldn't go into it because it's a fallback, and not where your heart is (read: the admissions committee will be able to tell).
It's a fair question. To answer you, my heart isn't in a career. All I really care about is family and friends. I like bull****ting, BBQs, the occasional joint, sailboats, traveling, and HDTV. Oh, and financial security and social prestige.
A pre-emptive response: if anyone replies with "I-Banker," be sure that I'll pray for their death.
If you're not sure about things, you can always take some time off after graduation to pursue/to find other things you're interested in. Even those with careers/those in school change their minds often. Why, just a few weeks ago my cousin phoned my uncle to tell him that he was dropping out of Law School (he goes, well, went to Harvard Law). I know countless others who take time off and find something they love to pursue and seek further education later, if needed.
So, if a certain career/goal/place not for you, then consider not rushing into one. Just my advice.
So, if a certain career/goal/place not for you, then consider not rushing into one. Just my advice.
If you're not sure about things, you can always take some time off after graduation to pursue/to find other things you're interested in. Even those with careers/those in school change their minds often. Why, just a few weeks ago my cousin phoned my uncle to tell him that he was dropping out of Law School (he goes, well, went to Harvard Law). I know countless others who take time off and find something they love to pursue and seek further education later, if needed.
So, if a certain career/goal/place not for you, then consider not rushing into one. Just my advice.
Thanks, but you're misunderstanding me. I'm no longer in the place in my life where I look to a job to make me happy. I realize that I hate working. Period. I just need to find a job that will support the things I value when I'm not working.
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Anyone considering going to law school if they don't get in? If so, explain.
i havent seen a user named Doc2Law yet..
I gave up my law school dreams. That's just not for me, I'm not cut throat enough.
I thought about taking the LSAT and MCAT but medicine is my true passion so no thankyou on law
I thought about taking the LSAT and MCAT but medicine is my true passion so no thankyou on law
Thanks, but you're misunderstanding me. I'm no longer in the place in my life where I look to a job to make me happy. I realize that I hate working. Period. I just need to find a job that will support the things I value when I'm not working.
Be a bohemian.
Be a bohemian.
It'd never work. I like Porsches and butts.
Hmm, I would reccommend going into Business. ALot more money to be earned on wallstreet, then in medicine or law.
Hmm, I would reccommend going into Business. ALot more money to be earned on wallstreet, then in medicine or law.
Certainty: Medicine >> Law >>> Business
Certainty: Medicine >> Law >>> Business
I agree with that👍
I'd rather be a teacher than go into business and I've never wanted to teach
Thanks, but you're misunderstanding me. I'm no longer in the place in my life where I look to a job to make me happy. I realize that I hate working. Period. I just need to find a job that will support the things I value when I'm not working.
Consider becoming an exotic dancer. Who knows, you may enjoy that line of work.
Consider becoming an exotic dancer. Who knows, you may enjoy that line of work.
I tried it. I did a hip flick and inadvertently broke the jaw of a patron at the other end of the room. Next.
plumber?
It doesn't fulfill my Porsches and tits requirements. Look, I've already done the math.
I tried it. I did a hip flick and inadvertently broke the jaw of a patron at the other end of the room. Next.
I don't think one small incident should stop you. Perhaps you should dance at an upscale place next time?
I don't think one small incident should stop you. Perhaps you should dance at an upscale place next time?
my back up career is to become an astronaut. (waaaayyy easier 👍)
It doesn't fulfill my Porsches and tits requirements. Look, I've already done the math.
Film yourself chillin out in some boonies for a few days call it "Making it home alive" or something and sell it to Discovery. It worked for Les Stroud and the Grylls dude. However, you will have to swallow something with six or more legs pretty often.
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my back up career is to become an astronaut. (waaaayyy easier 👍)
Why? There are no women in space.
It doesn't fulfill my Porsches and tits requirements. Look, I've already done the math.
Mechanic and Porn Star on weekends
It doesn't fulfill my Porsches and tits requirements. Look, I've already done the math.
I've heard firefighters get laid like crazy. No Porsches though.
Law school isn't a bad idea, but to be making the serious bank you have to go to a good one (top 15-20 is what I've heard). And you'll have a tough time getting in if you're a marginal med school applicant. It's worth a shot I guess.
Mechanic and Porn Star on weekends
I like to drive, not fix. And I like to ****, not act.
I've heard firefighters get laid like crazy. No Porsches though.
Law school isn't a bad idea, but to be making the serious bank you have to go to a good one (top 15-20 is what I've heard). And you'll have a tough time getting in if you're a marginal med school applicant. It's worth a shot I guess.
I'm well aware.
I'm well aware.
Then why'd you ask the question? If you need a fall-back for medical school, you probably won't be getting into a law school that will afford you the lifestyle you're looking for.
Then why'd you ask the question? If you need a fall-back for medical school, you probably won't be getting into a law school that will afford you the lifestyle you're looking for.
Wrong. Anyway, that wasn't my question. Refer to the original post - I'm not looking for advice.
Wrong. Anyway, that wasn't my question. Refer to the original post - I'm not looking for advice.
Why would people who couldn't get into medical school use law school as a fall-back? They won't get into a good one, and thus won't make that much.
Porches and tits in medicine = elective cosmetic plastic surgery in Miami or LA = probably 12 years training from where you are now. By the time you actually have enough money to enjoy the finer things in life, you won't be able to get it up for all those gold digging trophy women, and you'll be too arthritic to fit in the drivers seat of a little 2 door sports car. Get ready for disappointment.
I have so many words for you but you will not listen to any of them.
I know people who went to lawschool as a "fallback" plan or because they didn't know what else to do with themselves...
These people are almost unanimously miserable/depressed and either strongly regret the decision, or quickly drop out of school. If you aren't truly interested in studying/practicing law and the education that goes with it, law school can be one of the most boring and mind numbing places in the world...
These people are almost unanimously miserable/depressed and either strongly regret the decision, or quickly drop out of school. If you aren't truly interested in studying/practicing law and the education that goes with it, law school can be one of the most boring and mind numbing places in the world...
Anyone considering going to law school if they don't get in? If so, explain.
I know people who went to lawschool as a "fallback" plan or because they didn't know what else to do with themselves...
These people are almost unanimously miserable/depressed and either strongly regret the decision, or quickly drop out of school.
Or perhaps, years later, they're now posting on here as non-trad applicants to med school. 😉
Actually, I don't regret going to law school or practicing law, but I wouldn't recommend it if there is no specific area or aspect of the law that interests you in particular.
Or perhaps, years later, they're now posting on here as non-trad applicants to med school. 😉
Actually, I don't regret going to law school or practicing law, but I wouldn't recommend it if there is no specific area or aspect of the law that interests you in particular.
Wow, that sounds like a stab; albeit a very good and humorous one.
And from a mod too.
Wow, that sounds like a stab; albeit a very good and humorous one.
And from a mod too.
Nothing harsh intended. Just being honest. I've been there and done that, and am now coming back over from the dark side.
Don't go to law school unless you really want to be a lawyer. Doing it as a fallback is a pretty surefire way to be miserable.
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Hah... Sorry!!!
I guess I should disclose that I too am a non-traditional applicant (I worked in consulting for a few years), so I know what it is like to do a career 180.
Didn't mean to sound harsh, I guess I have just seen enough people go to law school for no reason beyond having no idea what to do with themselves. Doesn't mean that law school is a mistake (even if you eventually decide not to practice).
I guess I should disclose that I too am a non-traditional applicant (I worked in consulting for a few years), so I know what it is like to do a career 180.
Didn't mean to sound harsh, I guess I have just seen enough people go to law school for no reason beyond having no idea what to do with themselves. Doesn't mean that law school is a mistake (even if you eventually decide not to practice).
Or perhaps, years later, they're now posting on here as non-trad applicants to med school. 😉
Actually, I don't regret going to law school or practicing law, but I wouldn't recommend it if there is no specific area or aspect of the law that interests you in particular.
Hah... Sorry!!!
I guess I should disclose that I too am a non-traditional applicant (I worked in consulting for a few years), so I know what it is like to do a career 180.
Didn't mean to sound harsh, I guess I have just seen enough people go to law school for no reason beyond having no idea what to do with themselves. Doesn't mean that law school is a mistake (even if you eventually decide not to practice).
No problem. Ok, here are some of the types of people who I think tend to be happy practicing law:
1) There is a specific area of law that you are passionate about (i.e., immigration, domestic abuse/child custody, copyright/free speech etc.);
2) You want to work for the government to put bad guys away (criminal, white collar crime, etc.);
3) You are passionate about legal rights and/or want to work in a legal aid clinic/non-profit group;
4) There is some legislative area that you would like to help out with/research;
5) Strutting around in front of people in a courtroom and making arguments thrills you;
6) The thought of working on a deal that involves millions/billions/whatever of dollars gets your blood pumping;
7) You really just want a good-paying job and have already found your passion elsewhere outside of work (i.e., family), and are not looking for fulfillment from your job. Some such attorneys work part-time (generally only women with families).
Anyway, those are just some observations of people I know that enjoy being lawyers. They tend to be federal prosecutors, legal aid workers, trial lawyers, people that love working on big deals (corporate law or real estate law), or people that just want to make a good salary and don't care that their work isn't their passion. I'm sure there are other reasons out there too, but those are the ones that come to mind. If you're choosing law as a default path, just don't expect to get much emotional fulfillment or satisfaction out of it. You'll burn out soon enough, and just feel like a cog in the wheel.
Why would people who couldn't get into medical school use law school as a fall-back? They won't get into a good one, and thus won't make that much.
Not really. A good LSAT is all it really takes to get into law school. Smart people w/o great grades or ec's could easily get into a top-tier law school when they wouldn't get into med school.
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