false information on application?

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My brother applied to medical school this year, and he told me that he made stuff up on his application. I told him that he is screwed because the admissions committee does background checks on these things...He basically made up research experience and fibbed on some extracur activities on campus. I am sure he will be drilled during interviews. Anyway, to what extent do the admissions officers check up on these things? I actually hope they screw him on this, i hate my f*cking brother and his 4.0 GPA.

 

[ElDienteLoco]

Unfortunately, unless he was claiming some outrageous cold fusion stuff, they probably won't probe deep enough to find him out. They are likely to ask him to explain his research briefly in an interview and he would have to BS pretty well to convince them that he really had done research on the nocturnal activity of nematodes, but that's about it. It pays to be honest for what you get though, deception just hurts future patients, the profession and ultimately to finish the cliche - yourself.

 

[flat4]

My brother applied to medical school this year, and he told me that he made stuff up on his application. I told him that he is screwed because the admissions committee does background checks on these things...He basically made up research experience and fibbed on some extracur activities on campus. I am sure he will be drilled during interviews. Anyway, to what extent do the admissions officers check up on these things? I actually hope they screw him on this, i hate my f*cking brother and his 4.0 GPA.

First post on SDN with this shady question . "My brother..." my ass. Why do you care so much about your brother if you hate him so much? Anyways, I know my school keeps applications for a at least a year so they can compare differences for repeat applicants (ie. to see any new developments or some new BS you decide to put on the application). I would suggest you, I mean your brother, to keep the old application so you don't contradict yourself if you don't make it thru the first couple times around lol.

 

[Three-Oh]

First post on SDN with this shady question . "My brother..." my ass. Why do you care so much about your brother if you hate him so much? Anyways, I know my school keeps applications for a at least a year so they can compare differences for repeat applicants (ie. to see any new developments or some new BS you decide to put on the application). I would suggest you, I mean your brother, to keep the old application so you don't contradict yourself if you don't make it thru the first couple times around lol.

In my neighborhood, your what we call a ball breaker. Eh, quit being a ball breaker, and leave dis fella's brotha alone, woud ya?

Havin said dat - yuse a real wise guy OP - to be honest - i'm sure people have done dat, i don't know how far they get in dental school and all - but it's the wrong path to take.

I pitty those who lie on their application - shame on you. It will catch up to you one way or another. Just be honest, like me, your friendly neighbor Pauly. 😡 . Ha, ha, Cheer up frank, i ain't gonna hurt ya!

Hey guys, don't lie - these universities will get you in the interview, and they'll check your transcript - believe it or not, your chances are higher by not lying than lying.

i wasn't gonna post on this dum thread - but i did and i'll just e-submit now...

 

[flat4]

In my neighborhood, your what we call a ball breaker. Eh, quit being a ball breaker, and leave dis fella's brotha alone, woud ya?

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Somebodiez iz gosta do the drty work yo.

 

[drhobie7]

I'm sure people do this all the time, but it is pretty weak. Lies and shortcuts are for softies.

Here's the thing about lying on your application: if you lie about something insignificant (like being head of the chess club) the school probably won't find out. But it was so insignificant that it didn't matter anyway. So why lie about insignificant stuff?

If you lie about something major, the chances go up that the school will find out. When I interview people I ask about things they've done. If they say research I explore that. If they say they taught blind and deaf paraplegics in Surinam to play the trumpet I'm going to want to talk about that. Then I write down all the cool things I've learned about this person, which is later reviewed by the admissions officers. If things don't jive, something's fishy. Furthermore, if you write about the kids in Surinam on your application and don't talk about that in your interview the admissions office is going to wonder, "why the hell not?"

Last, it's not unheard of for medical or dental schools to expell a student for lying on an admissions application. How bad would that suck to be halfway through year 4 and find out you weren't going to graduate because someone discovered blind and deaf paraplegic kids in Surinam never learned to play trumpet?

 

[RaiderNation]

I'm sure people do this all the time, but it is pretty weak. Lies and shortcuts are for softies.

Here's the thing about lying on your application: if you lie about something insignificant (like being head of the chess club) the school probably won't find out. But it was so insignificant that it didn't matter anyway. So why lie about insignificant stuff?

If you lie about something major, the chances go up that the school will find out. When I interview people I ask about things they've done. If they say research I explore that. If they say they taught blind and deaf paraplegics in Surinam to play the trumpet I'm going to want to talk about that. Then I write down all the cool things I've learned about this person, which is later reviewed by the admissions officers. If things don't jive, something's fishy. Furthermore, if you write about the kids in Surinam on your application and don't talk about that in your interview the admissions office is going to wonder, "why the hell not?"

Last, it's not unheard of for medical or dental schools to expell a student for lying on an admissions application. How bad would that suck to be halfway through year 4 and find out you weren't going to graduate because someone discovered blind and deaf paraplegic kids in Surinam never learned to play trumpet?

Amen! The point of lying on your app would be to give yourself a clear advantage. By doing so the schools will probe into your app because you become a competitive applicant. Then you get busted and end up with a grand of debt from applications and a wonderful future of night shift manager at the local health food store.

 

[Sprgrover]

My brother applied to medical school this year, and he told me that he made stuff up on his application...

First off, why not post this question in the pre-allo or allo forum where medical students are more apt to be found? Second, lying, no matter how much rationalizing decreases its significance, is a bad idea. Yes, if your brother lied on his medical school application, he can be denied admission or dismissed from school. I have heard horror stories from family members, faculty, and advisors about students thrown out because of errors on MCAT registrations, falsifying claims, and the like. Beyond the immediate realm of medical school his comfort with dishonesty is alarming as he is choosing a profession predicated on integrity and the well-being of others is the main objective. While his actions may not cause an instant stir they probably will come back to haunt him in some form or another.

 

[Xedfingers]

This thread scares me...

I'm not a terribly strong applicant as it is, I would hate to know that I'm going up against people who LIED about what they did. I'll never stand a chance...

Just hope that they can see through them.... 🙄

 

[Sprgrover]

...Just hope that they can see through them.... 🙄

*Sprgrover hands pair of x-ray glasses to adcom*

You'll be fine! 👍

 

[Qui vive]

After seeing the movie Catch Me If You Can, I am happy to report that being an imposter and fabricating credentials will lead you to wealth, fame, and glory.

 

[jay228]

Lie on your apps if you will, so long as you are ready to pony up if you get called on it.