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hello i want to go to med school in the USA. i would like to know which is the fastest way to get a greencard so i can get the funding to go to med school to become a doctor. apparently many med schools wont even accept you unless you have the greencard in your possesion.
 

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Marry american baby dude, 2 years and you will get a green card. Take some ugly fat american girl, she will be happy to marry you. after green card divorce her and you r done.
 

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Sadly, I was going to say the same thing. I have seen it happen many times.

You can try to get a visiting visa to some American med school, work there to meet up with some current female med student. Many of whom spent too much time studying in college to know how to have normal relationships and will easily fall for you when all other men in their professions are either too busy working or too busy to look at her. Marry her and you get 1) green card and 2) a meal ticket even if you don't get into med school.

It's a plus if you're a good looking Italian/Spanish man.
 
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Guys! You're all so mean! You shouldn't marry someone just to get a greencard! It's called ethics, and physicians must (ideally) have them. :p
 

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:thumbdown: calling a lawyer wont do anything except get the response "come in to see me" which you will fork over hundreds to do. either way lawyers can only tell you the law not bend the rules for you. ive been to see an advisor, the only way i can do it is to get married. poor advice.
 

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Marry american baby dude, 2 years and you will get a green card. Take some ugly fat american girl, she will be happy to marry you. after green card divorce her and you r done.
It's actually 3 years. Marrying a USC (US citizen) is the fastest route, but it's not easy to do it. Finding a USC can be easy, but getting a green-card as the primary reason to marry a USC might be tricky to hide, and the legitamacy of the marriage will be tested at an Immigration interview, with bunch of Commitment Questions. 50% of Green Card applicants are denied for faking their marriage.

As long as you can deal with it for 3 years, and things go smoothly... which leads to some degree of commitment, there should be no problems.
 

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It's actually 3 years.
Hmm, are you sure it's not 2? I know a couple who did this; they were going out for ages before moving to the US so it was totally legit. Still, at the embassy they were given a special questionaire to fill out. They jokingly said it was like the movie "Green Card" where Gerard Depardieu has to recite all of Andie McDowell's lotions. Apart from that extra questionaire, there were no problems.

They HAD been living together for something like 5 years, though, so that probably sealed the deal.
 

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I totally agree with eclipseMD! How could you all be so insensitive? I know this probably happens all the time, but I really thought that it was something that people in general disapproved of! I mean, who would like to be a victim of this behavior? Wouldn't it be a huge blow to anyone's feelings, self worth and human values to realize he was introduced into matrimony for the sole reason of his partner obtaining a stay in the US? :(
 

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I totally agree with eclipseMD! How could you all be so insensitive? I know this probably happens all the time, but I really thought that it was something that people in general disapproved of! I mean, who would like to be a victim of this behavior? Wouldn't it be a huge blow to anyone's feelings, self worth and human values to realize he was introduced into matrimony for the sole reason of his partner obtaining a stay in the US? :(
I totally agre.
Unfortunately, stepping on other people's feelings and using them like puppets is a normal thing to many people.

The worst thing here is not the outright abuse of our laws, but rather the deliberate hurt of another individuals feelings.
 

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We r all on earth. So everyone has his right to study and to live anywhere including USA...BUT USA medschools put so many obstacles for foreigners who want to study in USA that WE PEOPLE from less developed countries have no further options other than marry someone just for citizenship to get into medschool.
 
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We r all on earth. So everyone has his right to study and to live anywhere including USA...BUT USA medschools put so many obstacles for foreigners who want to study in USA that WE PEOPLE from less developed countries have no further options other than marry someone just for citizenship to get into medschool.
No, you are wrong. everybody DON't have the right to live anywhere. That's why we have borders and passports.

Besides this, you are wrong. America has provided and STILL provides opportunites in education for people from every part of the world. As a matter of fact, I highly doubt there are many other countries that take more foreign students, so this is groundless critic.

Btw, even Afghanistan has a medical school, so there are options everywhere. Why does everybody have to go to the US? I don't see any reason why citizens of any country should allow whoever to step into their country and get everything for free, do you?
 

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stalvl said:
We r all on earth. So everyone has his right to study and to live anywhere including USA...BUT USA medschools put so many obstacles for foreigners who want to study in USA that WE PEOPLE from less developed countries have no further options other than marry someone just for citizenship to get into medschool.
No, not everyone has the right to study and live everywhere.
I'm not even going to why that's wrong.

Also, not to be cruel, but often less developed countries need doctors the most.
Wouldn't it make more sense for those doctors to stay where they are needed?
Out of all the countries in the world, the USA is the easiest place in the world to immigrate to as a doctor.
 
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Marry american baby dude, 2 years and you will get a green card. Take some ugly fat american girl, she will be happy to marry you. after green card divorce her and you r done.
Yup a lot of fat lonely ones around. :laugh: :laugh:
 

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If you choose to talk about people in the way you talk about them, don't be surprized when they make racist comments about you.

You are going to be doctors????

Or if you already are one, you should consider you attitude towards people.

EH.
 

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There's isn't much of a fast way, unless you have money.. but if you have money, hey, all doors are open anywhere in the world... rules of the trade. In some countries (like Belarus) for $5000 you can actually BUY green card.. it's legimate and I know few families who have done it.

Of course marrying someone isn't uncommon either. Born in Russia and being american citizen myself, I've had people approach me on multiple occasions to marry their daughters or sisters who were visiting US on travel visas. In fact people here make a lot of money by travelling to SE Asia and E. Europe, marrying girls over there, and bringing them over here... Not very clean, but money is money.. nobody complains.

But if you'd like to be more ethical how some people here have stated, find out about some student visas or organizations who'd sponsor your visit here and let you study in US med school.
 

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The interesting thing here is that it is considered polticially correct to accept people marrying for the green card. It seems to be automatic that whoever does this deserves to be in this country somuch and that they are suffering in their own country.

Which leads me to the following question;

How come most doctors in third world countries actually STAY in their own country? What about showing some thanks for the free education these people receive before going treasure hunting in America.

Of course, saying things like this is probably seen as to "racist" by many moderators and/or liberals that never see political correctness as something wrong.
 
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The interesting thing here is that it is considered polticially correct to accept people marrying for the green card. It seems to be automatic that whoever does this deserves to be in this country somuch and that they are suffering in their own country.

Which leads me to the following question;

How come most doctors in third world countries actually STAY in their own country? What about showing some thanks for the free education these people receive before going treasure hunting in America.

Of course, saying things like this is probably seen as to "racist" by many moderators and/or liberals that never see political correctness as something wrong.
It's not racist at all. to be honest, these days it matters less if ppl. try to come to the US , there are a lot of doctors in host countries, just lack of funds. As doctors here, they (including me, but I naturalized through the legal way, have lots of relatives here) we can make good amount of money to start projects for helping ppl. there.
 

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No, you are wrong. everybody DON't have the right to live anywhere. That's why we have borders and passports.

Besides this, you are wrong. America has provided and STILL provides opportunites in education for people from every part of the world. As a matter of fact, I highly doubt there are many other countries that take more foreign students, so this is groundless critic.

Btw, even Afghanistan has a medical school, so there are options everywhere. Why does everybody have to go to the US? I don't see any reason why citizens of any country should allow whoever to step into their country and get everything for free, do you?
ha ha.....too much for being in that country............i wonder why US has few seats for people from foreign countries..........a dentist pays minimum $60K for studying in US...... at embassy they they ask "where's the guarantee u will come back to ur country after ur education?"
i will ...what do u guys want?? ha ha only a fool would invest so much and then leave the country.

u play business..we just reciprocate .......u do not like it.....strike out the deal.....i am sure US law knows all these things..........(marriages for visa and green card)..still they do not actually take any steps to stop these things.....there has to be some profit............
 

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Btw, even Afghanistan has a medical school, so there are options everywhere.
even means.........hey............all afghanis do not run to US for treatment.........other parts of world are also DEVELOPING.....
 

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PrinceLazar said:
The interesting thing here is that it is considered polticially correct to accept people marrying for the green card. It seems to be automatic that whoever does this deserves to be in this country somuch and that they are suffering in their own country.

Which leads me to the following question;

How come most doctors in third world countries actually STAY in their own country? What about showing some thanks for the free education these people receive before going treasure hunting in America.

Of course, saying things like this is probably seen as to "racist" by many moderators and/or liberals that never see political correctness as something wrong.
hey hey.......wait which free education are u talking about...........as far as INDIA is concerned there is no free education for DENTISTS OR DOCTORS...
we pay through our nose for professional courses........and then tough competition for postgraduation seats......and then for super specializations....
and for returns wait till u have dentures in mouth and bent backs........

we all search for greener pastures....right now US is greenest and juiciest of all.......tomorrow......who knows????
 

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there are a lot of doctors in host countries, just lack of funds.
This is such a ridiculous (and incorrect) over-generalization that it can practically be ignored. There are very few nations to which this applies. Indeed, there are nations in Africa with one surgeon in the entire country.
 
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This is such a ridiculous (and incorrect) over-generalization that it can practically be ignored. There are very few nations to which this applies. Indeed, there are nations in Africa with one surgeon in the entire country.
You are actually right, this is based on very few nations, but then it is people from these nations that usually come here
 

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Hmm, are you sure it's not 2? I know a couple who did this; they were going out for ages before moving to the US so it was totally legit. Still, at the embassy they were given a special questionaire to fill out. They jokingly said it was like the movie "Green Card" where Gerard Depardieu has to recite all of Andie McDowell's lotions. Apart from that extra questionaire, there were no problems.

They HAD been living together for something like 5 years, though, so that probably sealed the deal.
I know someone who completed the whole process (green card application to green card possession) in three months. For others, after two years, they are still waiting. The system is completely arbitrary.
 

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Reviving this thread ..
Does someone actually have the answer to the question asked ?
If someone's come to the US as an undergrad and another 3-4 years before we apply to med school, is there anyway to get the green card ??
LEGALLY AND ETHICALLY !!
 

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I don't think so. I've been a student in the US for 6 years now and am not any closer to a green card than I was when I first got here. But if anyone has any info on how to get a green card without marrying a US citizen or through employment, I'd like to hear it.
 
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