Fellowship After MRCpath

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Hi Guys,
I passed MRCpath recently from UK.Got 92 in usmle step 1 and 90 in step 2.Is it possible to get a fellowship in Path.i am a British citizen.
 
I've met a few renal fellows who were foreign born and trained, so it must be possible. I would contact a program directly and ask about the requirements.
 
david_smth said:
Hi Guys,
I passed MRCpath recently from UK.Got 92 in usmle step 1 and 90 in step 2.Is it possible to get a fellowship in Path.i am a British citizen.

Dude, I thought the UK had a pathologist shortage hence the NHS recruitment program (which I was unceremoniously rejected from). Stay there, live in London, drink beer and hit on hot Euro chicks with cool accents. WTF are you thinking?
 
LADoc00 said:
Dude, I thought the UK had a pathologist shortage hence the NHS recruitment program (which I was unceremoniously rejected from). Stay there, live in London, drink beer and hit on hot Euro chicks with cool accents. WTF are you thinking?
Doood, the guy said F-E-L-L-O-W-S-H-I-P. He didn't say forever.

Welcome david_smth - I think it's definitely doable, but you may have to pass Step 3 for a fellowship application.
 
Yes and no is the short answer.
Yes, you can get a fellowship. But you cannot gain subspecialty, or even general path board certification in the US, without redoing ALL of your path training in a US residency first. There's NO exceptions for the requirement to a) complete an approved US (or Canadian) residency and b) have a general board certification before you get subspec certification. From a US perspective, your MRCPath is, unfortunately, utterly worthless in terms of gaining specialist recognition.
The only US board that partially accepts foreign training is Int Med.

So you can apply for a fellowship in the US. In fact, you're probably likely to get it, because you don't need to fill a ACGME approved slot (since you can't sit for board examinations anyway). So essentially, it's training which will make you more valuable in the UK. It's not something which can be used towards starting a medical career in the US.
Oh, and remember to bring your own funding if you get a non-ACGME fellowship.
 
PathOne said:
Yes and no is the short answer.
The only US board that partially accepts foreign training is Int Med.

I'll ask the programmes directly. I've been hopping around various BBS, and this is not true. For example, even in orthopaedic surgery, if you do fellowship then get appointed as a Faculty member, they give you the board under "outstanding researcher" (something like this) category. There's an Aussie bloke who posts to Aussie forum who has FACEM, and he says that he's been practising with it in America without having to go through American residency.
 
No such option exists in path. However, you CAN get an appointment in pathology or any other field without being board certified. But you'd need an awfully strong research/publication record, as it usually only applies to a professional level positions. In UK terms, I'd say you will need a FRCPath before starting to explore this pathway (no pun intended).

(for those unaware of the UK system: A MRCPath - Member of the Royal Society of Pathology - is a board exam usually leading to UK specialist recognition. After 8 years as a MRCPath you get elected as Fellow - FRCPath).
 
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