Felonies

[Heliums]

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What is the likelyhood of getting into medical school with a conviction?

 

[Finn]

I would have to guess fairly remote.

 

[Deno]

Even if they let you in, you also need to think about the state medical boards. You may have a degree but not be able to practice.

 

[Wrigleyville]

What kind of felony are we talking about here?

 

[Heliums]

check this out
http://www.hamptonroads.com/pilotonline/special/doctors/part2.html

 

[stinkycheese]

For a sex offender, I believe the chances of getting licensed would be fairly small.

 

[Gerg]

What kind of a prosecutor goes through 2 trials then goes for a plea bargin? Were they hung juries? If I were you, I would have lodged a complaint with the prosecuting attorney's office, the city you are in, the county you are in, and the state you are in alledging wrongful prosecution.

I feel bad for you, based upon what you said. I hope that the appellate court decides that they were misdemeanors, not felonies. Best of luck to you.

To all of those who want to be intolerant of any person who ever makes a mistake, pick up a copy of Victor Hugo?s Masterpiece Les Miserables.

 

[LuckyMD2b]

Do yourself a favor and don't apply until you get that felony turned into a misdemeanor, at least.

 

[azzarah]

Do yourself a favor and don't apply until you get that felony turned into a misdemeanor, at least.

That's what I was thinking too. Good luck though if you're really innocent.

 

[Heliums]

huh?

 

[azzarah]

The first trial I was acquitted of seven charges and the remaining were 11-1 in favor of acquittal. The second trial oh it was bad . . . all of a sudden things that would prove me to be innocent were forgotten, ended up 9-3 in favor of acquittal. I did file a complaint for prosecutorial misconduct/vindictive prosecution but the prosecuting district attorney was married to the presiding judge (not of the case but of the bench). I guess I will wait to apply to med school perhaps go to grad school and get an MPH and a certificate of rehabilitation before applying.

Hey Heliums, I'm sorry you had to go through all this.

 

[LuckyMD2b]

The first trial I was acquitted of seven charges and the remaining were 11-1 in favor of acquittal. The second trial oh it was bad . . . all of a sudden things that would prove me to be innocent were forgotten, ended up 9-3 in favor of acquittal. I did file a complaint for prosecutorial misconduct/vindictive prosecution but the prosecuting district attorney was married to the presiding judge (not of the case but of the bench). I guess I will wait to apply to med school perhaps go to grad school and get an MPH and a certificate of rehabilitation before applying.

When and Why did you plea bargain?

How old was the girl?

Did your defense present an arguement like: if she was under21 what the hell was she doing in a bar?

 

[Heliums]

When and Why did you plea bargain?

How old was the girl?

Did your defense present an arguement like: if she was under21 what the hell was she doing in a bar?

I know

 

[azzarah]

What is the girl getting out of this?

 

[Heliums]

What is the girl getting out of this?

Revenge?

 

[stinkycheese]

It is very hard for rape victims to get a conviction. I am shocked that a woman who you say was not sexually assaulted would have the stamina, vengeance, vindictiveness and time to wrongfully accuse a guy she slept with one night 7 years ago. Women are often ostracized as being "out for revenge" when seeking justice in a rape case; it is sad if this woman really was not raped and is seeking some sort of revenge against you for some reason, because she lessens the credibility of every true rape survivor out there.

 

[Heliums]

These days when charged with a sex related crime you are guilty until proven innocent.

 

[stinkycheese]

These days when charged with a sex related crime you are guilty until proven innocent.

That is so far from the truth it's scandalous. Why don't you do some volunteer work with a rape crisis agency and tell me how many survivors even make it to trial, let alone get a conviction. The entire process is skewed to make it as difficult for the survivor as possible, and often, she is on trial as much as the accused. As you said below, people always want to bring up her sexual history as "evidence" against her allegation. Give me a break. Sexally promiscuous women do not deserve to be assaulted and are not more likely to fake an assault. It is very, very rare for a woman to "create" a sexual assault, and far more likely for a woman who is feeling ashamed at what has happened to her to minimize the attack and the damage it has left her with.

As for her actual motives, she and god will only really know. All she had to do was show up to court twice. My lawyer could not even bring up the five other guys that she had slept with her the five previous nights or her previous allegations of sexual assault against other people.

As I said above, her sexual history is none of your business. A sexually promiscuous woman is not less likely to be assaulted than any woman. In fact, prostitutes are more likely to be raped because people assume that they are "property" and not real people who have a say in when and with whom they have sex. Is a hooker less deserving of a fair rape trial just because she's a hooker?

 

[Heliums]

Even from a legal stand point if two people have sex that are considered legally drunk it is considered rape. I think you taking an extremist stand on this in the sense that every single PERSON who claims rape was. Every case is different.

 

[stinkycheese]

You have an interesting position in the fact that you have never been involved in a legal case. In the past I do agree that sexual related allegations were extremely difficult to prove however the pendulum has swung the other way. You are now guilty until proven innocent. In all honesty why should defendant?s sexual past be admissible if the accuser?s past is not? Sexual tendencies such as the ability to contract in a wave like motion certain sexual organs and having these tendencies corroborated by other sexual partners I would argue should be within the realm admissibility in a criminal trial. As for the accusers being on trial, I strongly disagree with that statement. I can?t speak on prostitutes perhaps you more about that than I, no disrespect intended. Yes I have worked with rape crisis centers giving talks of my own accord I might add. Some rapes I concede are extremely brutal and warrant extreme punishment. But let?s draw a distinction between the regret for having sex with somebody which is not rape. Even from a legal stand point if two people have sex that are considered legally drunk it is considered rape. I think you taking an extremist stand on this in the sense that every single PERSON who claims rape was. Every case is different.

I found your post very difficult to follow because it doesn't make much grammatical sense, but I will try to address the points I feel are important.

First of all, it is foolish to state as a "fact", without knowing me, that I have never been involved in a criminal trial. I have worked with many rape survivors who have taken their case to trial and I know quite a bit about the process. I do have an interesting position-- but don't assume it's a naive one just because I disagree with you. 🙄

Secondly, the defendant's sexual past is admissable because it is the defendant who is on trial, not the alleged victim. What about this distinction is confusing to you?

Third, nice attempted zinger with the prostitutes comment, but yes, I'll wager a bet that I do know more about this than you because of my work with rape crisis centers. I am surprised to hear that you have given talks there; on what topic?

Fourth, "some rapes I concede are extremely brutal and warrant extreme punishment"-- what, and rapes that aren't "extremely brutal" by your standard do not warrant extreme punishment? What rape isn't brutal, when you are taking control of someone's body by force? The above statement shows your ignorance. All rapes warrant extreme punishment, whether they are "brutal" (physically abusive in addition to the sexual violation) or not. When a woman is forced into a sexual act, her attacker deserves to be punished-- whether he beat the woman up or not. Mental and emotional intimidation is just as overpowering in some cases. As long as the woman said no, the attacker has done wrong.

Fifth, I don't know how you took from my post that "every single person who claims rape" is telling the truth. Never said that, but I will say that it is very uncommon for a woman to make this up. If the woman you slept with was legally intoxicated at the time of the encounter, and you were not, then yes, this is rape-- she could not give her consent, but you were coherent. (Hypothetical situation). If a man wants to take advantage of a drunken woman, whether he used force or not, and whether she said no or not, he still has to face the music: he raped her. A person cannot legally consent when intoxicated.

Finally, I don't think a woman's vaginal contractions during intercourse are anyone's business. The vagina will contract and expand in response to intercourse whether the woman is sexually aroused or not. Some women have even had involuntary vaginal orgasms during a rape because the stimulation is so fast and rough. Does this mean she "liked" it or that it was "just another ****" to her? No, and it's ignorant to think otherwise.

And lastly: why did you plead guilty if you are innocent? I am sorry this has been such a harrowing ordeal for you, but I don't understand why you would take responsibility for crimes you did not commit. 😕

 

[Heliums]

what?