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I didn't see any new topics about this, so I'm going to start this thread hoping it will be a resource for accepted students this cycle.

We have been told it is very helpful to get your financial aid information out ASAP (FAFSA, individual school FAFSA forms, etc). Seeing as this may be a good time for the traditional applicants (re: winter break), to get these things in order, I was hoping people with insight on the whole financial aid process could offer some tips, guidelines, whatever, on things we should be doing now.

Thanks.
 
I didn't see any new topics about this, so I'm going to start this thread hoping it will be a resource for accepted students this cycle.

We have been told it is very helpful to get your financial aid information out ASAP (FAFSA, individual school FAFSA forms, etc). Seeing as this may be a good time for the traditional applicants (re: winter break), to get these things in order, I was hoping people with insight on the whole financial aid process could offer some tips, guidelines, whatever, on things we should be doing now.

Thanks.

I don't know much about financial aid, but I'm planning to learn all about it over break! This is a good place to start:

http://www.fafsa.ed.gov/before001.htm

Good thread.
I believe FAFSA can't be filled out until January? I think thats right.

"Apply as early as possible beginning January 1st of each year."
 
I had one school (Iowa) tell me that I should be sure to put my parents info if I want to be eligible for something (i forget what it was). When I went to Rosalind Franklin the finaid lady, who was very nonchalant about the whole thing, said I didn't have to fill in my parents' info unless i was feeling ambitious. Is this a thing that varies school to school or what?
 
When you fill out the FAFSA in January, be sure to complete the one for 2010-2011 so that the school gets the info. In general it is good to complete it with actual asset info and estimated tax info early, allowing you to sort of save your place in line at the financial aid office. Then you go back and correct the FAFSA to reflect your precise tax return numbers once you have completed the return for the 2009 tax year.

FAFSA will not ask you for parent info as you are a graduate student and therefore independent. You should check with your schools regarding parent info, most schools offer some need based aid but require parents info for that- even if you are 30, even if you are married with kids, they are only giving need based aid to people with a low EFC including potential parent contributions.
 
Although....it can hurt you as well when it comes to need based scholarships, grants, etc.

Putting in your parent's information can only help you at most schools. If you don't put it in, you are not eligible for need-based aid. If you do, you will be considered.
 
yeah great thread-please keep posting...

so is FAFSA the only thing we need to fill out? Isn't there some other form?

If we don't put our parents info, will we still be eligible for scholarships and stuff from school? I doubt I will be getting need based financial aid if I put in parental tax info

Any information is great-or if someone super knowledgeable could make a general post on options, that would be sweet
 
Putting in your parent's information can only help you at most schools. If you don't put it in, you are not eligible for need-based aid. If you do, you will be considered.

Thats not true for federal aid, in fact quite the opposite. Your not ineligible if you don't put your parents info because you are considered independent. It can hurt you because if they make above the income line you wont get the financial aid, been there done that.

Now school based money may be different and I would suggest checking with your individual school, most don't require parent info anyway though (at least the ones I've been to).
 
ok finally found the finaid sheet from Iowa and it says for U of Iowa grants and scholarships I HAVE to put my parent's info. So it's probably just based on the school.
 
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Thats not true for federal aid, in fact quite the opposite. Your not ineligible if you don't put your parents info because you are considered independent. It can hurt you because if they make above the income line you wont get the financial aid, been there done that.

Now school based money may be different and I would suggest checking with your individual school, most don't require parent info anyway though (at least the ones I've been to).

good tip 7star
 
Please Keep posting, this information is appreciated for those of us trying to prep for the next step.
I have also heard that the sooner you fill out the necessary financial aid the sooner you can get your financial aid package. Can someone please post based on their previous experience and how long after completing the necessary paperwork did they receive their package? Any idea on what is considered a low EFC for medical school financial aid? what realistic expectations should one have for need based aid?
 
Thats not true for federal aid, in fact quite the opposite. Your not ineligible if you don't put your parents info because you are considered independent. It can hurt you because if they make above the income line you wont get the financial aid, been there done that.

Federal aid in med school isn't necessarily like undergrad. You will be considered an independent and your parents income will not affect your ability to get loans (alhtough your own income can). The only reason to put parental info is because some individual schools want it.
 
Can someone please post based on their previous experience and how long after completing the necessary paperwork did they receive their package?

Very dependent on the individual school. Most will try to get them to you ~April.

Any idea on what is considered a low EFC for medical school financial aid?
Most will have a EFC of 0 unless you have a significant personal income. Your parents income doesn't count towards family contribution, just yours.

what realistic expectations should one have for need based aid?
Loans, loans and more loans.
 
Most will have a EFC of 0 unless you have a significant personal income. Your parents income doesn't count towards family contribution, just yours.

Interesting, I wonder if this is school specific as well. I was told at an interview that the particular school didn't require parent info and so make sure and not put it as it could hurt me with other aid. :shrug:

I'm a non-trad, I haven't put family info for years....guess I'll wait and see what my school says. Good info, thanks everyone.
 
Ok, a few things I learned when doing this last year...

1) Get on your parents' booties about getting their taxes done ASAP, get your own done ASAP as well. It'll make life easier.

2) Fill out FAFSA as soon as you have some numbers. Use the ones from lat year if you think they're about the same and then you can change them later.

3) About parental information: as a rule, if you just want to be eligible for FEDERAL LOANS, you don't need to enter it into FAFSA. You'll get the loans. If you want to be eligible for NEED-BASED AID, as well as University-based loans (usually have lower interest/ allow more leeway when you pay them back) you will almost definitely have to enter parental info. Yes, it usually hurts you. Yes, you can argue until you're blue in the face that your parents have zero intention of helping you out and therefore you should be considered independent. It's entirely irrelevant. If you apply for need-based aid, you will have to suck it up and enter your parents' information. Sorry.

4) In order to avoid it, you have to have all kinds of proof that you have zero contact with your parents, etc. I promise, it's not easy.

5) For people who had a job last year: your "expected family contribution" on FAFSA, even if you only fill out your own info (aka not your parents') will be higher than you'd like because it'll count the money you made at your job. Oftentimes, med schools have their own mini-financial aid apps that include some kind of "comments" section, so you can explain that yes, you had a job that made you X number of dollars a year, but you won't have that job come med school, so that money shouldn't be counted as expected income. They may or may not care.

6) Each med school has its own system. FIGURE IT OUT. Don't just fill out FAFSA and assume you're good to go. Some places have their own financial aid apps that you actively have to look for online. Each school has a different deadline for getting stuff in. Some want official copies of tax returns, W2's, etc. Some don't. Others want other online applications, like NeedAccess, if you want to apply for need-based funds. Do the research yourself and don't expect to be spoon-fed information. This stuff is for your own benefit, and it's not the school's responsibility to remind you once a week that you haven't done everything you were supposed to do.

7) Need money runs out, so do stuff quickly.

8) Do your homework on loans, interest rates, repayment guidelines, etc. Not all loans are created equal. You could get two loan packages that look exactly the same, but one has more interest and expect you to start paying them back soon after you graduate. Others will have lower interest rates and can be paid back after residency. GradPlus are notorious killers, and school-based loans tend to be more lenient.

9) As far as AMOUNTS are concerned, you can accept less than they predict, but not more. So, when they give you numbers for "cost of attendance", that's the max they can give you in loans. This amount doesn't include car payments, btw. So, if you're planning on buying a car right before school, your payments will have to come out of your housing budget or food budget or whatever (each financial aid website should have a breakdown of cost of attendance). If you want to live in a 1400$ a month condo, you won't eat. It's as simple as that. However, if you can live for cheaper (live at home, share a tiny apartment with people) you can take less money and you'll have to pay back less. A lot of people choose to take the max the first semester and see how much they have left, and then they adjust their numbers accordingly after that.

10) If your parents have money, and you're expected to take everything out in loans anyway, you might want to ask your parents for a loan instead. Chances are, they'll let you pay them back without interest/with lower interest than a bank, and they'll be nicer to you about it 😉.

Ok, that should do it. :luck:!
 
Thats not true for federal aid, in fact quite the opposite. Your not ineligible if you don't put your parents info because you are considered independent. It can hurt you because if they make above the income line you wont get the financial aid, been there done that.

Now school based money may be different and I would suggest checking with your individual school, most don't require parent info anyway though (at least the ones I've been to).

You're most likely not going to get federal need-based aid. If you haven't filled out a FAFSA for medical school, you haven't done this.

You're correct that most schools do not require parental information. However, at most places not submitting this information will disqualify you for need-based aid from the school itself (which is likely the only source of need-based aid you would receive).
 
You're most likely not going to get federal need-based aid. If you haven't filled out a FAFSA for medical school, you haven't done this.

You're correct that most schools do not require parental information. However, at most places not submitting this information will disqualify you for need-based aid from the school itself (which is likely the only source of need-based aid you would receive).

Exactly right. I am a 3rd year med student and attend a private med school. I receive needs based grants that total about $45,000 per year which covers my tuition. These are grants directly from the med school. I would not have received these grants without providing parental information on FAFSA and my parents signed tax returns. So I will save about $180,000 by the time I graduate. I would have had to borrow this money without the grants. It is a big deal to me.
 
You're correct that most schools do not require parental information. However, at most places not submitting this information will disqualify you for need-based aid from the school itself (which is likely the only source of need-based aid you would receive).

Best reason for being proactive and getting the facts from your specific school!

Thanks.
 
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I feel dumb asking this question. But would appreciate someone answering it. Just a tad confused. People keep saying to fill out FASFA by Jan 1st. And we have to fill out a tax return from W2s for past year before filling out the FASFA. Thing is, W2s are not mailed out to us until Jan-Mar, if I'm not wrong. How could we fill out FASFA without having received our W2s? Thanks.
 
I feel dumb asking this question. But would appreciate someone answering it. Just a tad confused. People keep saying to fill out FASFA by Jan 1st. And we have to fill out a tax return from W2s for past year before filling out the FASFA. Thing is, W2s are not mailed out to us until Jan-Mar, if I'm not wrong. How could we fill out FASFA without having received our W2s? Thanks.

You do not have to complete the FAFSA by January 1. I am third year med student and my parents and I complete the FAFSA in late January or early February every year.

Employers are required by federal law to mail W-2s to employees by the end of January.

In addition, some med schools (including mine) require students to complete a form called Need Access online. Need Access is much more detailed than FAFSA and requires much more information about assets. If your school requires Need Access, your school will let you know after you are accepted. At this point, just focus on getting FAFSA done as soon as possible.
 
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You CANNOT file out the 2010-2011 FAFSA until Jan 1 2010 at the earliest. Fill it out some time in January with an ESTIMATED amount for your income. When you declare your assets, or your parent's assets, that number should be accurate as of that date and the amount of assets will not be updated.

When you later file your tax return you can update all the items taken from the tax return onto the FAFSA form. I generally recommend using round numbers like 1000, 2500, 5000, etc when entering the estimated amounts; that way it is easy to tell, what you estimated and what was exact.

For example if you are entering parent info and they have mutual funds & bank accounts, make a list of all MFs and bank accounts and the amounts as of that day, total it up and enter it in the proper line- like 10,487 and 25,986. Exact amounts that you never change.

If you are currently working full time and not in school the FAFSA formula assumes you can use that money each year for tuition, but you will not be able to work full time in medical school. Most school financial aid departments will have a special circumstances form for you to fill out to show that info. They can then subtract that income from the formula. They know it works that way, but they will still need you to complete the form. Around February, ask them if they have a form if you have chosen a school already.

There is a good chance your parents completed the FAFSA for many of you in undergrad, if you are not filling it out on your own, you may be confused. I've been doing it for 10 years and sometimes when they change things I get confused 😉 If you need advice when you are doing the forms go to talk.collegeconfidential.com and go to the financial aid board. There are parents and finaid officers there every day giving assistance and advice at all times of the day and night.
 
i thought i would bump this thread for all of us accepted in the new year and are a little confused about the whole financial aid process.

my question specifically is about loans. hypothetically, let's say that my parents make too much money for me to qualify for need aid, but i'm not going to be getting any help from them. in that case, i'm looking at all loans for medical school. i know most of this will be unsubsidized federal stafford loans which have a limit of around ~40k? at the school i plan on going to, the coa is around 63k. where does the rest of the loan come from? medical school fin aid presentations make it seem like you won't have to get private loans for the rest, but i don't know where the rest of the loans will come from.
 
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