Finch / Chicago Medical School is on probation

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The school's on probation and two of its trustees had to step down (both are unrelated to each other). The trustees allegedly committed fraud regarding hospital construction funding. The school's on probation for other reasons.

More information on the probation is available here (Chicago Business Journal):
http://chicagobusiness.com/cgi-bin/news.pl?id=12845

It is possible that the graduates of the school may not be able to take the boards and apply for residency programs because of the probationary status. 😱


The trustees issue is found here (Chicago Sun-Times):
http://www.suntimes.com/output/health/cst-nws-med30.html

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Jason110 said:
It is possible that the graduates of the school may not be able to take the boards and apply for residency programs because of the probationary status. 😱


That would be scary....especially if you pay 50k+ base tuition a year for an education there
 
Does not look good...
 
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for those who have already gotten into Finch, withdraw your acceptance now. you're better off at a DO school than at an MD school on probation. for those who haven't applied, do not apply there.
 
"It is possible that the graduates of the school may not be able to take the boards and apply for residency programs because of the probationary status. 😱"


i highly doubt that a school on probationary status will have the effect of not letting students take their boards or match for residency. temple has been on probation and i know that their students have taken their boards and matched in their respective residency programs. it is only when a school loses accreditation is when they get into trouble. even then, the LCME will place all the students in other medical schools.

many schools have been on probation before. i have yet to hear of one losing their accreditation status.
 
I'm sure glad they rejected me so that I wouldn't have this dillema (should I go even though they may lose accredidation?). I sure would like to have it in writing that Finch will reinburse my tuition if they lose accredidation--which, even if they did put it in writing, would never happen since they would in essence go out of business. I feel for all of the Finch acceptances that didn't get in anywhere else. It is also too late to apply for D.O. schools. Good luck!
 
apprentice said:
"It is possible that the graduates of the school may not be able to take the boards and apply for residency programs because of the probationary status. 😱"


i highly doubt that a school on probationary status will have the effect of not letting students take their boards or match for residency. temple has been on probation and i know that their students have taken their boards and matched in their respective residency programs. it is only when a school loses accreditation is when they get into trouble. even then, the LCME will place all the students in other medical schools.

many schools have been on probation before. i have yet to hear of one losing their accreditation status.

But why even take that chance? Imagine going through medical school...studying hard everyday...and the concern of having your medical school lose its accreditation. I don't think it would be worth it.

I also think it's really unfair, because essentially, they are punishing innocent students along with punishing the guilty administration.
 
crazy250 said:
for those who have already gotten into Finch, withdraw your acceptance now. you're better off at a DO school than at an MD school on probation. for those who haven't applied, do not apply there.
I wouldn't go that far. They are on probation for two years until they fix the problem, and in the article the spokesman said they should have the problems fixed within the year. If they didn't fix the problems within two years they would not be accredited. I seriously doubt that the school or the alumi would ever let that happen. That being said it is discouraging.
 
jpro said:
I wouldn't go that far. They are on probation for two years until they fix the problem, and in the article the spokesman said they should have the problems fixed within the year. If they didn't fix the problems within two years they would not be accredited. I seriously doubt that the school or the alumi would ever let that happen. That being said it is discouraging.


There are many uncertainties in life, but this would be one uncertainty I wouldn't be able to live with.
 
Excuse my ignorance, but what would happen to the students if the school lost its accreditation? Would they not graduate? Would they have to reapply to other schools and start med school from scratch? Be blackballed for residency matching?
😕
 
Eyecon82 said:
There are many uncertainties in life, but this would be one uncertainty I wouldn't be able to live with.
True if I had a choice between Finch and another school I would choose the other school, but I wouldn't drop out of Finch if I had nowhere else to go.
 
I actually don't think the probation is that big of a deal. Many schools have gone through it before...actually, wasn't Stanford on probation not too long ago? And look where they are now? Don't trip, even if they lose their accredition (extremely unlikely), it is LCME's obligation to make sure all of their students are placed into other medical schools.
 
chicagomel said:
Excuse my ignorance, but what would happen to the students if the school lost its accreditation? Would they not graduate? Would they have to reapply to other schools and start med school from scratch? Be blackballed for residency matching?
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They would graduate but the degree would be worthless without accreditation of the school that issued it.
 
You can expect more of this to happen in the future as the wildfire expansion of medical schools continues.....the LCME needs to crack down. If they dont, we'll be back in the early 1900s when there were about 300 "medical" schools, most of them financially insolvent, preying on tuition fees just to fatten their pockets, with no interest in real education.

Here's how to tell which schools you should avoid:

NEVER go to a school that forces students to rotate at various clinical sites. This indicates a huge weakness in terms of available clinical faculty. All med schools offer VOLUNTARY clinical rotations at other sites, and thats no problem. But a school that FORCES you to spread out your clinical rotations in other cities is in a very weak position. I'm thinking of schools like FSU, and many of the DO schools. Almost all of the carribbean schools have to do this, because their base hospital and facilites are incredibly weak.
 
MacGyver said:
Here's how to tell which schools you should avoid:

NEVER go to a school that forces students to rotate at various clinical sites. This indicates a huge weakness in terms of available clinical faculty. All med schools offer VOLUNTARY clinical rotations at other sites, and thats no problem. But a school that FORCES you to spread out your clinical rotations in other cities is in a very weak position. I'm thinking of schools like FSU, and many of the DO schools. Almost all of the carribbean schools have to do this, because their base hospital and facilites are incredibly weak.

Does this include UF and USF which require rotations outside of the immediate area?
 
If you are admitted to an acrredited(i suk at spelling) and the school goes on probation while you are attending there is usually no changes for students that were admitted to a 4 year program before the school went on probation. My ****hole of an artschool was put on probation for pure incompetence and people were scared are diploma werent gonna mean squat. Even though a diploma from an art school is near useless anyway(thats why Im transferring) go hoosiers!!
 
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