Important lesson.Just don't put them down as references. Also, don't do ******ed things when it comes to money in the future
for this to be an institutional action, your school itself has to have brought formal action against you. So, if your PI found out and just let you go right there, and you never heard anything from your school, I don't think that that would be an IA
Call your school and find out if there was an IA against you. If you ONLY got fired, then don't sweat it (consider yourself lucky). I wouldn't put that in my work/activities section because they will ask you questions about your stint at your lab and they could contact your PI. Just put it in the past, learn from it, and forget about it."Don't do ******ed things when it comes to money in the future." You have no idea how stupid I felt after they found out.
Basically, I was not getting credits for the research. It's just a paid student position in the summer in a research lab I've been working in. The PI was heartbroken to let me go because she said she really liked me, but thought I was incredibly dumb for doing that, which I completely agree. No one deserves to be put into a position like what I did to her. That's why I am never going to do it to anyone again. This incident has made me realize how selfish and foolish I can be.
She's one of my LOR, but she's already submitted it before this incident. I'm prepared to answer the IA question on the AMCAS if I have to, but I want to realistically manage my expectations for medical school. If it's no longer possible, I'll have to accept it, but I just don't want to give up on my medical school applications, because I know that she wouldn't want me to.
I've read the LizzyM thread and it was definitely insightful. I'm just kinda freaking out because this is a serious problem and I want to handle it accordingly.
Yes, call your school and apologize to your PI.I guess my real question then is can institutional action be placed because of student employment conduct violation. I guess no one here can answer that since it probably will depend on what the administrators at my school will do.
You're lucky your institution did not pursue legal action against you. Being convicted of forgery carries stiff criminal penalties.I made an incredibly stupid and unethical mistake and forged my PI's signature for time sheet for payroll.
Source:http://www.criminal-law-lawyer-source.com/terms/forgery.htmlForgery can involve the false making of anything handwritten, typewritten, computer generated, printed or engraved from scratch that is intended to defraud. Forgery can also involve significant material alteration of a genuine document. This can include forgery involving false signatures or improperly filling out forms. A document is considered forgery if it looks authentic enough to deceive a reasonable person. It must also have some legal significance in order to be considered unlawful. Forgery also includes the possession of any forged document or forgery device with knowledge of its purpose.
Forgery is a serious felony offence... A forgery conviction can result in up to ten years in prison, heavy fines, and more.
At least at my school, undergrads have their timesheets checked and verified, this is usually just a formality, you should not have forged a signature on such an easy thing. But setting that aside I wouldn't worry about it, this is as a job. If you got credits you can explain the class portion of the research, but this is a technicality of a position, not an academic or AMCAS violation.I made an incredibly stupid and unethical mistake and forged my PI's signature for time sheet for payroll. I was under time constraint to hand it in on time, but in the end there's no excuses for what I've done.
My question is what will happen next? Would this count towards institutional action? I hope I don't have to report it in AMCAS application at that, but if I do, I would just like to know if I should be prepared to write my explanation and what I've learned from it.
Typically research bosses / professors are going to like you, they 99% of the time do not agree with administrative cases, but in my experience try to follow the rules, so that the administration treats them well. Secretaries, administrative bosses like the rules followed, and the professor wants to be in good relations with them. I am sure even if you got fired on a technicality, if you were doing good work, your advisor is still gonna love you, but maybe did not like the little tid bit of dishonesty. It depends on how close you are to your advisor. If it was my advisor they would have been angry for what I did, but it wouldn't effect how they felt about me outside of school or in the lab.Sorry if I wasn't clear. I worked for her for the past 2 and a half years. She's just paying me to continue my research over the summer, so it's not like I don't know her. I know she's not going to change my LOR and I that she genuinely liked me. I'm just disappointed at myself that I had to do this to her.
As you are the person against whom the action is taken, you are the one who has the right to an appeal. If the PI wishes to come to your defense, that's fine but institutional actions generally carry some appeal process. In some cases, one might waive the right to an appeal and accept a lesser punishment that might be given if one were to go through the regular process (this is similar to pleading to a lesser charge rather than going to trial, being found guilty, appealing the guilty verdict, etc in the criminal justice system)Do you think it's appropriate to ask my PI to appeal against institutional action if it does happen?