Fixed Units Required to Graduate By School

[bowlingking]

Hey everyone, I was wondering what every school's crown and bridge requirement is to graduate. I have heard widely varying numbers depending on where you go. Also throw in your school's price for a PFM.

I'm at so I'll go first.


School: University of
Single units: 8-10 total units to graduate (2009 and later)
Bridge: not required (2009 and later)
competencies: several on a typodont & clinical
PFM Price: $435

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[Dukie]

Hey everyone, I was wondering what every school's crown and bridge requirement is to graduate. I have heard widely varying numbers depending on where you go. Also throw in your school's price for a PFM.

I'm at Maryland so I'll go first.


School: University of Maryland
Single units: 8-10 total units to graduate (2009 and later)
Bridge: not required (2009 and later)
competencies: several on a typodont & clinical
PFM Price: $435

Wow, that's very few fixed credits! UNC has the following:

School: UNC
Single units: 16 (though most people do far more)
Bridge: 1 (used to be 2)
competencies: many in courses, test crown in clinic
PFM Price: I think it is $374

 

[SydB]

Wow, that's very few fixed credits! UNC has the following:

School: UNC
Single units: 16 (though most people do far more)
Bridge: 1 (used to be 2)
competencies: many in courses, test crown in clinic
PFM Price: I think it is $374

School: Temple
Single Units: 15
Bridge: 1
Competencies: plenty
Price: 350

Unfortunately we do all of our own lab work at temple. Everything except porcelain application. The new incoming class won't have this problem though since they changed it.

 

[NVDental]

School: USC
Single Units: 23
Bridge: 1 three unit
Competencies: 5 clinical cast prep exams ( 3.5 hrs given to complete caries removal, core buildup, preparation and provisionalization, and final impression) + 3 cementation exams.
LabworK: trim the dies, and redline the margins.
Price: $425

 

[BuckeyMcGee]

School: Nova
Single Units: 10
Bridge: 1
Competencies: many
Price: 480

 

[pietrodds]

For historical references... graduated from maryland in 04 and it was 16 units and you needed 2 bridges, pontics didn't count as a unit. It was a struggle to find patients that needed bridges and could afford them. Especially because the perio dept required all bridge pts to have an consult for an implant as a tx option. On multiple occasions, I knew of students who talked their patients out of implants to get bridges because they needed it to graduate. That just goes to show how pathetic dental school is and how it's just a game that has nothing to do with delivery of good care. At the time, fees were 285 for NP crowns and 325 for noble PFMs. Why I remember this crap I don't know, as I could never remember the Kreb cycle after studying it for 5 hours straight. Some of the crap in dental school stays with you like atrocities of war does to a vet. My best advice is do what you need to get out of that hell hole and then take it upon yourself to become a good dentist through good continuing ed. Once you're are licensed, serve you fellow young student dentists by impressing upon them that dental school is the start of you education not the end of it. I learned more from the part time teacher/dentists that were out in the real world than all of the FT instructors combined.

 

[crazy_sherm]

School: UOP

Single Units: 12-20? They tell us there's no number requirement because they want to look at the difficulty of the cases. I know someone to have graduated with as little as 12, but one of the cases was a 6 unit anterior all ceramic case.

Bridge: They like us to do at least one, but I think if you do a complex enough multi-unit case, it'll count.

Competencies: 5 indirect ( 2.25 hrs - prep and temp), 5 impression, 5 cementation

LabworK: Next to nothing, we just mount the casts. For the right cases, we don't even need to do that.

Price: $551

 

[clickytop]

School: UOP

Single Units: 12-20? They tell us there's no number requirement because they want to look at the difficulty of the cases. I know someone to have graduated with as little as 12, but one of the cases was a 6 unit anterior all ceramic case.

Bridge: They like us to do at least one, but I think if you do a complex enough multi-unit case, it'll count.

Competencies: 5 indirect ( 2.25 hrs - prep and temp), 5 impression, 5 cementation

LabworK: Next to nothing, we just mount the casts. For the right cases, we don't even need to do that.

Price: $551

Who the hell gets a dental student to do that much porcelain in the front of their mouth? That's like asking a 5 year old with Power Wheels to drive in the Daytona 500. And for that matter, what kind of dental school patient can afford six of anything...

 

[TucsonDDS]

And for that matter, what kind of dental school patient can afford six of anything...

What are you talking about, all my patients can afford 6 mm pockets. 😉

 

[Dukie]

School: UOP

Single Units: 12-20? They tell us there's no number requirement because they want to look at the difficulty of the cases. I know someone to have graduated with as little as 12, but one of the cases was a 6 unit anterior all ceramic case.

Bridge: They like us to do at least one, but I think if you do a complex enough multi-unit case, it'll count.

Competencies: 5 indirect ( 2.25 hrs - prep and temp), 5 impression, 5 cementation

LabworK: Next to nothing, we just mount the casts. For the right cases, we don't even need to do that.

Price: $551

That's mighty expensive for a dental school PFM. I guess it is San Francisco, though...

 

[Midoc]

I'd like to see a current UDM student comment. When I went through, it was pathetically small for fixed credits.

 

[Wayne Coronado]

Kentucky

When I was there (03-07), we were competency-based with the following reqs:

3 Crown preps to reach the threshold to challenge the competency.

You then can challenge the crown prep/provisional competency, but it is nearly impossible to pass as a DSIII.

Much easier to pass if you just wait until 4th year to complete it.

We did not have any bridge requirement.

Cost: $275 (although I'm sure the price is hiked up to ~$300 now)

 

[HuyetKiem]

School: Case

we were competency-based
Single units: 5
Bridge: 1 (with at least 2 abutments)
competencies: 2 crowns and 1 bridge (prep, temp and delivery)
LabworK: disinfect the final impression 😀😀😀
Crown Price: $400

 

[crazy_sherm]

Who the hell gets a dental student to do that much porcelain in the front of their mouth? That's like asking a 5 year old with Power Wheels to drive in the Daytona 500. And for that matter, what kind of dental school patient can afford six of anything...

Yeah, it's pretty nuts, but we do a lot of full mouth reconstructions here since there's no prosth program. There's certain faculty that just works on these cases with us very closely to make sure we're not completely screwing it up.

That's mighty expensive for a dental school PFM. I guess it is San Francisco, though...

I think it's because we farm out all the lab work, but it's still $300-500 less than what patients are getting quoted at the private practices in the area, so it works out fine.

 

[UDM 2008]

I'd like to see a current UDM student comment. When I went through, it was pathetically small for fixed credits.

School: UDM

Single Units: 100 CPU's required for graduation. Crowns are 9 CPU's, 3-unit bridge is 26 CPU's.

Bridge: 0

Competencies: One (Done at no charge to the pt.)

Price: 400

 

[HuyetKiem]

And for that matter, what kind of dental school patient can afford six of anything...

We have many of those patients at Case and on my patient roster. Location of dental school and your ability to "promote" the optimal treatment plans are some of the important factors.

 

[scandalouslj]

Penn

700 points with a crown being 20 points and a post and core an additional 10 points. So most of us did a minimum of at least 25 units. No requirements for bridges. Comp I dont really remember, since I graduated last year.

And about that 6 unit restoration, someone else mentioned. I had a patient that got 4 anterior veneers, 3 implants, and 3 crowns. My roommates were all doing 4 or 5 unit bridges reg, although it really depended on your group leader as I didn't get to do any.

Oh yeah the price? $650 per crown, but almost no one paid that because everyone was on the Pennsylvania insurance which paid for RCT and Crowns regardless of age (hence why our school didn't take Medicaid, and why out RCT requirements were so high to).

 

[scandalouslj]

Penn

700 points with a crown being 20 points and a post and core an additional 10 points. So most of us did a minimum of at least 25 units. No requirements for bridges. Comp I dont really remember, since I graduated last year.

And about that 6 unit restoration, someone else mentioned. I had a patient that got 4 anterior veneers, 3 implants, and 3 crowns. My roommates were all doing 4 or 5 unit bridges reg, although it really depended on your group leader as I didn't get to do any. True, most dental school patients cant afford that, but we had a few patients that were pretty well off and just liked coming to the dental school, because they had some private dentists mess stuff up and they liked that we got checked a bunch of times by different professors, or that we spent a lot more time on them instead of a dentist talking to them for 2 mins and having the assistant do half the work.

Oh yeah the price? $650 per crown (if I remember right), but almost no one paid that because everyone was on the Pennsylvania insurance which paid for RCT and Crowns regardless of age (hence why our school didn't take Medicaid, and why out RCT requirements were so high to).

 

[nyudentalman]

NYU

6 crowns. One must be implant supported. 2 must be procera (alumina or zirconia). Most students do well over 15. I'm on 10 and do not graduate till 2009. A PFM/procera/captek $475

1 Bridge $1300 (single implant w/crown $900). Its a bitch to get bridges. I already met my requirement just because a patient had a 25 year old bridge that needed replacing.

I'm sure those are the prices and someone can correct me if I am wrong

 

[angeeeeee]

not sure the # we have to do, I think we just have suggested numbers. PFM's here at UW are $600 and FGC's are $588....we must be good! ha ha!! j/k