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Anybody took the florida licensing exam this past March? I know they have changed several things.

The written treatment planning exam from 100 questions ( that is was used to be) is now changed to 280 q and 6.5 hours exam!

Can anybody say how difficult the questions were, what need to review etc

Also any other help/comments on the whole licensing exam would be great!

Any help would be greatly appreciated as I am taking this exam in May!

Thanks a lot

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good luck in may, i'd be interested to know this as well.

Question, did you attend a Florida dental school? or are you taking the exam so you can move and practice down there?

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good luck in may, i'd be interested to know this as well.

Question, did you attend a Florida dental school? or are you taking the exam so you can move and practice down there?

Thanks


I just want to move there
 

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Well I didn't take it in march but alot of my upperclassmen friends did and they said it sucked, i don't think anyone had any problems with the written part, but the clinical tests were ridiculous. You will see when you take it
 
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The previous poster I'm assuming goes to Nova and appears to be a first year. I don't want to turn this into a Nova vs. Florida war, but there are some differences in taking the clinical exam at each location.

I took the FL Board in March. The written exam is passable I didn't hear about any of my classmates failing it. Don't take it lightly because its like $800 to retake it if you fail. Also be prepared to take it during the 30 days prior to the clinical exam. You won't get clearance to take it until 30 days before the clinical and on your exam approval sheet in the mail it says you must take it by a certain day which is before the clinical exam. You won't know the results for 3-4 weeks. I finished the written exam in like 2.5-3 hours as did a lot of my classmates. You need a 75 to pass, I got an 87 if I remember correctly. Really after taking it, a lot of the exam is composed of things you should absolutely know to be a general dentist. I would definitely see if you could get your hands on old NERB reviews or exams. I saw a ridiculous amount of repeated material. If it wasn't word for word the general idea of the case was the same and it was easy to figure out. It was definitely easier than NBDE Part 2. Which is probably why a lot of people taking the NERB take Part 2 around the same time.

For those wondering why I'm talking about NERB for the Florida board, it is because the NERB examiners currently administer the Florida Dental Board Examination.

Laws and Rules is a crap shoot. I did fine on it. Some of my classmates barely passed. Good thing it's not $800 to retake it. So if you fail you take it again. You get your score right away on this one.

When they went to the new format last November they gave it at Nova and I was told they had a lot of problems with getting patients from the treatment clinic and the grading clinc, etc.. Basically wasting a lot of your examination time. I've never been there so I can't really tell you what it is like. At UF (Gainesville) I can tell you patients are treated on two floors only. During the March exam the grading was done on one of the second floor clinics. The candidiates were working on the other second floor clinic or the clinic directly above that one on the third floor. I don't know what the march exam was like at Nova either.

Where timing becomes an issue is during restorative. Everyone on the floor gets one chance to submit their restorative patient. Once everyone has that chance everyone turns their paper over at the same time. From that time you have 6 hours to prep, grade, restore, grade, submit RSD #2, prep, grade, restore and send for grade. The big unknown is how long your patient will take to get thru the grading clinic. My class 2 prep took the longest which I think was somewhere around 40-45 minutes. Before we started restorative the monitor kindly told us that we should work on finishing the first prep in under an hour. A lot of the problems at the Novemer Exam had to do with timing issues.

They will also tell you there is an express chair to request modifications. If you know you are down on time just make sure there is no decay and the prep looks ideal, and that everything is clean! If you go a little past ideal they probably won't know the difference and if they do you probably won't fail. In my opinion the express chair is not express at all. You have to call over your monitor once you have written your request for modification. They get someone to walk your patient to the express chair in the grading clinic. Then your request is approved or denied. This whole process probably is at least 15 min or more. To me express would be a grader coming to your chair and approving it on the spot.

The perio is relatively easy. The monitor comes over makes sure you papers are in order and gives you consent for anesthesia. You administer it and send your patient for pre-treatment grading. When they come back you have the alloted time for treatment (90 min I think). Everyone starts at different times. They will put a post it note with your end time on your operatory wall. They grade you on being able to identify calculus on your designated surfaces, and then cleaning them. I would suggest trying to find teeth in one quadrant. You can only pick surfaces on 6-8 teeth. Of those teeth 3 of them need at least one surface with a pocket depth of 4mm or more. I'd suggest trying list all Mesial and Distal surfaces. This way it is easier on the grader and on you when your are checking. There is also a rule in the CIB that you must clean all surfaces of the tooth. For example, if you only list 18M as the only graded surface you MUST clean all surfaces of #18. I don't know how they would penalize you if you didn't. Also you have to probe two teeth they pick. A lot of people forget to do that so don't forget it. Some of my classmates made a pact that as soon as one of them did it they would causually say out loud "I'm probing now". Some of them forgot and remembered midway thru SRP and actually stoped in the middle to probe. It's a free 12 points that you should easily get. Give your patient more anesthesia before you send them for post treatment grading.

I took one of the prep classes and even they said if you had to pick an exam site pick Gainesville. They also said a lot of the graders and proctors prefer the Gainesville site over Nova. That said location won't determine if you pass or fail. You just need to know how to work the exam and the rules. If you're qualified you can pass the procedures without problems at all.

The nice thing about Florida Boards is that they tell you if you pass or fail at the end of the examination weekend. The other boards make you wait for 3-4 weeks. The other big PLUS is that once you pass FL boards you can get NERB status in like 30+ other states accepting the NERB exam. So yes you can take your Florida license to practice in those states. Be aware if you take the NERB outside of Florida you still won't be able to get a license in FL. So for now it is a one way street.
 
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I case you wanted to know. I think that almost half of my class took the march board which is about 40-42 people. Of those people only 3 are retaking a clinical portion and all of them are retaking the restorative section. Each one was a different reason to retake. 2/3 probably should have passed.

Oh and there is such a thing as picking too hard a perio patient. One of my classmates started at least 20 points down because her case selection was apparently deemed too difficult. One can only wonder why, but stranger things have happened.

Also on the endo section be prepared for the possibility of having to clean and shape and obturate up to a size 80 canal. The CIB says you only have to go up to a 55. Two of my classmates had teeth that the first file to bind was a 70 size, they both passed endo. They unfortunately got the NERB endo teeth for some reason, which does go up to that size. The florida endo tooth is only meant to go up to about size 55.
 
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Wow!Thank you so much for this reply! It was really helpful!

I was wondering if in the written exam is there a lot of ortho/pedo? I 've read the official manual and from what I could see there should be a lot of oral path, radiology, removable prosth and perio. Is this correct?

Again thank you for all your help and congrats on being Licensed in Florida. The more I read about the exam, the more I realise this is the hardest license exam of all.
 

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I think there may have been 1 case that was a pedo case, not too in depth. Remember the exam is made to test the skills of the general practitioner. I don't remember any ortho on the exam.

The oral path wasn't to difficult either. Again they are things you would see on a day to day basis. They didn't pick pathology that hardly anyone ever sees. I think the radiographs on this exam were easier to see than Part 2.

There were several cases with removable. There was also perio which wasn't to hard. The old exams come in handy when trying to focus your studying. They were spot on about what content is covered by the exam. Like I said earlier a lot of them were repeated concepts that made it easy to answer the question or they were almost exact copies. There is enough to learn from the old exams that you SHOULD easily pass the written exam.

If you want a book to study from. I heard from several people that the Mosby Part 2 review book is a great tool to study.

I'd review AHA prophylaxis guidelines. Since the change there are a lot of things you don't pre-med for and some of the questions get tricky. I think there were at max 3-4 questions on it.

Honestly, I don't think people read the Candidate Information Book enough. I saw people reading it the right before candidate orientation. It's a great tool and will really tell you what to expect. Of course I had the benefit of 40 other classmates taking it at the same time so between all of us we pretty much tore the thing apart and learned every aspect of the exam, including what could potentially cause automatic failure.

Additionally, we all used NERB webiste itself (nerb.org). Under the exam orientation heading it will take you to a link for the Florida Board. There are powerpoint presentations that tell you exactly what the criteria are for the boards. They are extremely helpful in showing you what the grading criteria mean.

Any capable dentist can do the procedures for this exam. It's just learning the formalities of the exam so that you know what helps you and how much something could hurt you.
 

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Is the florida written exam the same as the NERB?CRTDS exam that other people are talking about in this forum?

In the NERB exam it seems that there is only oral path - please correct me if I am wrong..but from people that took Fl boards said that the written part had a lot of RPD questions. I am not sure exactly what though?

Design? indications? classes? Can somebody that knows shed some light on this please?
 

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Is the florida written exam the same as the NERB?CRTDS exam that other people are talking about in this forum?

In the NERB exam it seems that there is only oral path - please correct me if I am wrong..but from people that took Fl boards said that the written part had a lot of RPD questions. I am not sure exactly what though?

Design? indications? classes? Can somebody that knows shed some light on this please?


Is anybody else taking the florida boards this June? please let me know - it would be good to discuss exam stuff!
 

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Also is any girl taking the Becker course in Gainsville before the June exam? I am looking to split a hotel room! Please let me know if you are interested!
 

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My fiance and I are taking the Dr Becker course in June, but we are staying in an RV. When do you plan on taking the written exam? We will be taking it next week.
 

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I read about reading Mosby part 2 for the written exam for the diagnostics part. Does anybody have any other good info to study from? Any suggestions? I have been practicing in Michigan for the past 5 years and it has been a while since I studied for the boards. Thanks!
 

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The other big PLUS is that once you pass FL boards you can get NERB status in like 30+ other states accepting the NERB exam. So yes you can take your Florida license to practice in those states. Be aware if you take the NERB outside of Florida you still won't be able to get a license in FL. So for now it is a one way street.

Where can I find this information about getting NERB status after taking the Florida exam? I went to a bunch of individual state board of dentistry websites and none of them mention anything about this.
 

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