fmg going for ortho residency

[tito8512]

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ok im a medical student in costa rica but now im switching to the dominican republic.i would like to get an ortho residency.i just want to know if anyone of u knows anybody that has studied in a foreign country and has gotten an ortho residency? i also want to know your opinions on the chances that i have, if im able to reach that 220 score in my boards.

 

[drbruce]

ok im a medical student in costa rica but now im switching to the dominican republic.i would like to get an ortho residency.i just want to know if anyone of u knows anybody that has studied in a foreign country and has gotten an ortho residency? i also want to know your opinions on the chances that i have, if im able to reach that 220 score in my boards.

With 220 I'd aim for general surgery, sadly. I do understand your desire for orthopeadics but we are not alone, unfortunately, many others think the same way, hence the competition for resident places.

To get into ortho shoot for 230-245 on your USMLE step 1 scores

 

[dawg44]

It is an extremely long road to land a American Ortho Residency regardless of your scores. It is one of the most highly sought after residencies by all students. I've sat in on the selection process for a few years and it isn't even a consideration for us with the abundance of qualified candidates. Sad for you, but true none the less.

 

[tito8512]

alright thanks 4 the replies,i just wanted to know wat people thought,i dont understand why dawg44 said that.i guess theres 0% chance of me gettin a residency.i dont think ur right.i do think that is gonna be hard as **** cuz i guess its better if i would of studied in the u.s,but i just wanna say that im pretty sure that i can get one,i guess it just sucks how the residency system is.me personally dont think that orthopaedics is the hardest **** in the world,its all about knowin ur anatomy and learning the procedures.thats all!!!

 

[Louisville04]

personally dont think that orthopaedics is the hardest **** in the world,its all about knowin ur anatomy and learning the procedures.thats all!!!

The demand (med students wanting ortho) is much greater than the supply (spots available)....I don't think it is any harder than general surgery, interventional radiology, neurosurgery, etc.

 

[fernj1975]

The demand (med students wanting ortho) is much greater than the supply (spots available)....I don't think it is any harder than general surgery, interventional radiology, neurosurgery, etc.

I can tell you from first hand experience, the applicant pool for gen surg and ortho are different. Ortho's applicant pool is self selected, have a much higher USMLE AVG score (Ortho had the 3rd highest AVG of 237, behind Plastic and Derm) and are usually US grads. I do agree its on par with interventional radiology and neurosurg.

 

[TxMed]

alright thanks 4 the replies,i just wanted to know wat people thought,i dont understand why dawg44 said that.i guess theres 0% chance of me gettin a residency.i dont think ur right.i do think that is gonna be hard as **** cuz i guess its better if i would of studied in the u.s,but i just wanna say that im pretty sure that i can get one,i guess it just sucks how the residency system is.me personally dont think that orthopaedics is the hardest **** in the world,its all about knowin ur anatomy and learning the procedures.thats all!!!

if you get any ortho interviews, i would lead with these sentiments. with such a great attitude and outlook you might not even have to pass the boards to get into ortho.

tm

 

[VincentAdultman]

me personally dont think that orthopaedics is the hardest **** in the world,its all about knowin ur anatomy and learning the procedures.thats all!!!

me personally dont think that dermatology is the hardest **** in the world,its all about knowin how to do a punch biopsy and popping zits.thats all!!!

 

[tito8512]

and ur studying medicine?????wowwwwwwwwww that says a lot about u

 

[TxMed]

and ur studying medicine?????wowwwwwwwwww that says a lot about u

huh?

 

[k-wire]

what the hell is going on with all these separate fmg posts, asking the same questions over and over and over again? why cant you guys just add you question onto a thread thats already started or just look at the other 500 threads that start with "i am an fmg with a board score of 2XX from xxx and i want to do ortho..."

the bottom line is ortho is tough and you got to work hard. you cant change what you got on the usmle step 1, so do better on step 2. you cant change where you went to med school, so do alot of research. get letters, do away rotations, and work hard, and have a back up plan (yes, you can apply to multiple specialties). this is the same advice thats in all these threads.

im not trying to be mean, but if you like posting your stats for self-reassurance, you may not be able to grit your teeth and do what it takes to land an ortho spot.

 

[tito8512]

hey chill i havent even taken the ****in tests yet,so im not tellin my scores 2 anybody and tryin to get reasurance from nobody,.so relax

 

[KayBee]

K-wire, hi.

You mention that you can apply to multiple specialties? Im afraid ive been searching for that info on many of these threads and haven't come across it. Im not very clear on the application process. Does the application form have space for more than one residency or do you have to use another one? Does applying for more than one show the PDs that you haven't made up your mind, coz i learn one of the qualities most residencies look for is if you are dedicated to that particular speciality. Oh, and averagely, how much does it cost to apply?
Thx

 

[TxMed]

K-wire, hi.

You mention that you can apply to multiple specialties? Im afraid ive been searching for that info on many of these threads and haven't come across it. Im not very clear on the application process. Does the application form have space for more than one residency or do you have to use another one? Does applying for more than one show the PDs that you haven't made up your mind, coz i learn one of the qualities most residencies look for is if you are dedicated to that particular speciality. Oh, and averagely, how much does it cost to apply?
Thx

http://www.aamc.org/students/eras/

 

[McAllenHopeful]

Tito,
Dawg44 isn't trying to be mean, it's just that there really are posts about this already up. You just need to look them up.

As for your post, from my experience Dawg44 is right. FMGs for whatever reason are considered after US medical grads. While this might not be right, it's the way it works. And because of this, a 220 on your Step 1 probably won't cut it. Remember around 216-218 is average...it takes over a 240 to even get one standard deviation out of the mean. I know of a FMG who scored in the 250's who got two interviews out of 60 programs. He didn't match. Look for the few programs that already have FMGs as residents (Wake Forest and UT-San Antonio are the only ones I know of) and maybe do research there for a year or two. As for thinking ortho isn't hard, you're semi-right. Performing ortho isn't overly difficult. But getting a residency spot is. There are many more applicants than spots; that's what makes ortho so difficult. Not the material. Hope this helps.

 

[cdql]

if you get any ortho interviews, i would lead with these sentiments. with such a great attitude and outlook you might not even have to pass the boards to get into ortho.

tm

Not to be a douchebag and pour it on, but I would have to agree with TxMed.

Try toning down the 4-letter-language and realize despite the "roughness" of some of the posts, they're just trying to tell you what it's really like. No one said you couldn't do it. We're just letting you know that it will be difficult. (which is pretty much the case for getting into an ortho residency whether you're an FMG or not)