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Specifically outside the Western Hemisphere.
I want to know more about the Italian and Israeli and Australian and other European schools.
Getting into an American school is a nightmare and I need to know what I can do. I have been trying for years and working really hard so I need to see what my other options are.
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Search the forum for other schools first...

once you have done that come back and ask questions...

all schools are hard to get into... it is a fact of veterinary school on all hemispheres... fix your credentials if you are having issues....
 
I suggest you take a look back at the thread you posted in April regarding January start dates. I suspect you'll be getting much of the same advice in this thread as well.

Regardless of whether you apply to schools in the U.S. or abroad, you will have to go through essentially the same admissions process. If you've still done nothing to improve your application, you're just wasting your own time and money by applying again.

You said previously that you would not go to an unaccredited school. Has this changed? If not, you'll be limited to schools in Australia and only a few in Europe, as Italy and Israel do not have schools accredited with the AVMA.
 
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animaldoc1 said:
Specifically outside the Western Hemisphere.
I want to know more about the Italian and Israeli and Australian and other European schools.
Getting into an American school is a nightmare and I need to know what I can do. I have been trying for years and working really hard so I need to see what my other options are.
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It doesn't get any easier anywhere else - for example America has 28 schools, Canada has 5, South Africa has .. erm 2 I believe. If you're interested in being tanned during vet school there is Ross University, check it out. You will still need to work just as hard to get into any school but I think a foreign school would be great to live in a different place - just make sure not to put yourself into extreme debt (which is hard I know)
 
OSUPreVet said:
It doesn't get any easier anywhere else - for example America has 28 schools, Canada has 5, South Africa has .. erm 2 I believe. If you're interested in being tanned during vet school there is Ross University, check it out. You will still need to work just as hard to get into any school but I think a foreign school would be great to live in a different place - just make sure not to put yourself into extreme debt (which is hard I know)
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Please don't get him started on Ross yet again . . .

(Check his previous posts and you'll see what I mean 😉 )
 
BlackDog17 said:
Please don't get him started on Ross yet again . . .

(Check his previous posts and you'll see what I mean 😉 )
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Bahah! Whoops! Forget I mentioned it. Go to South Africa instead - does Mexico have any accredited Vet schools? I forget.
 
OSUPreVet said:
It doesn't get any easier anywhere else - for example America has 28 schools, Canada has 5, South Africa has .. erm 2 I believe. If you're interested in being tanned during vet school there is Ross University, check it out. You will still need to work just as hard to get into any school but I think a foreign school would be great to live in a different place - just make sure not to put yourself into extreme debt (which is hard I know)
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Well, thats just not true - pretty much the sole reason any international school has AVMA accreditation is so American/Canadian students can come to our schools and pay exorbitant fees in return for needing a lower GPA and less animal experience. They ARE less competitive, and many of them offer just as high a quality education as American schools, especially UK and Australian schools.
 
sunshinevet said:
Well, thats just not true - pretty much the sole reason any international school has AVMA accreditation is so American/Canadian students can come to our schools and pay exorbitant fees in return for needing a lower GPA and less animal experience. They ARE less competitive, and many of them offer just as high a quality education as American schools, especially UK and Australian schools.
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What I meant was its NOT easy -- vet education does not come easy. Yes I agree its not AS hard as American schools but its by no means an easy way out?
 
sunshinevet said:
Well, thats just not true - pretty much the sole reason any international school has AVMA accreditation is so American/Canadian students can come to our schools and pay exorbitant fees in return for needing a lower GPA and less animal experience. They ARE less competitive, and many of them offer just as high a quality education as American schools, especially UK and Australian schools.
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:bullcrap:
 
sunshinevet said:
Well, thats just not true - pretty much the sole reason any international school has AVMA accreditation is so American/Canadian students can come to our schools and pay exorbitant fees in return for needing a lower GPA and less animal experience. They ARE less competitive, and many of them offer just as high a quality education as American schools, especially UK and Australian schools.
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I am not sure how it works in Australia, but this is complete and utter BS for UK/EU schools. Yes our fees are ridiculous, but our requirements for attending are not any less. And the schools here are very competitive, it is extremely hard to get into veterinary school in the EU/UK. The degree of education needed is the same as well as the animal experience and GPA requirements. The education, as you say is as high of quality, as in the US.

But, to be blunt, we pay for the residents to get their education by funding the running of the schools. Cause their tuition fees are cents compared to ours. The reason for AVMA accreditation is to ensure the schools have the proper funding to continue on cause they wouldn't have it if they only accepted residents.
 
DVMDream said:
:bullcrap:
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uh, go on???

By and large, international schools are the option for those who are not competitive in their home country, or do not have the luxury of time to improve their stats or go through many application cycles. They are not nessercerrily worse students and they do not make worse vets, and they still work very hard in vet school (and very hard to get in). Are they as competitive to get into as the American schools (for americans?) No.

Sure there are some students who go to international schools because they want an international experience or because they want to stay in that country. But 95% of people who go to international schools go there because at the time they applied, they were not competitive in their home country.
 
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sunshinevet said:
Are they as competitive to get into as the American schools (for americans?) No.
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Yes, they are. Maybe not in Australia, but for the UK schools they are just as competitive, have the same GPA requirements and same animal experience requirements. Maybe you should do a little research on what UK schools expect of American applicants before you speak?
 
DVMDream said:
Yes, they are. Maybe not in Australia, but for the UK schools they are just as competitive, have the same GPA requirements and same animal experience requirements. Maybe you should do a little research on what UK schools expect of American applicants before you speak?
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Actually the minimum cumulative GPA for Edinburgh for American students to apply is a 3.4 and science GPA minimum is a 3.0, so you have to have a higher GPA for Edinburgh than most US schools.
 
devyn said:
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I am not sure how it works in Australia, but this is complete and utter BS for UK/EU schools. Yes our fees are ridiculous, but our requirements for attending are not any less. And the schools here are very competitive, it is extremely hard to get into veterinary school in the EU/UK. The degree of education needed is the same as well as the animal experience and GPA requirements. The education, as you say is as high of quality, as in the US.

But, to be blunt, we pay for the residents to get their education by funding the running of the schools. Cause their tuition fees are cents compared to ours. The reason for AVMA accreditation is to ensure the schools have the proper funding to continue on cause they wouldn't have it if they only accepted residents.
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Absolutely international school fees subsidise the university and I'm very glad I do not have to pay them. Interestingly, the uni actually recieves just as much money for me as an international - just the Australian government pays 75% of my fees.

Look guys, I don't know if you've taken what I've said the wrong way or what, I'm not saying you guys aren't hard working or smart or going to be good vets or ANYTHING like that. But the idea that every student who went to an offshore school did so just because they wanted to and NOT because they could more easily than get into an american school, is utter BS.

Look, I like the both of you a lot as posters so I don't want this to just spiral out of control, sorry if I hurt your feelings it wasn't intended. International students still work very very hard to get into vet school, and work very hard during vet school. But honestly, the rest of what I said was true.
 
sunshinevet said:
Absolutely international school fees subsidise the university and I'm very glad I do not have to pay them. Interestingly, the uni actually recieves just as much money for me as an international - just the Australian government pays 75% of my fees.

Look guys, I don't know if you've taken what I've said the wrong way or what, I'm not saying you guys aren't hard working or smart or going to be good vets or ANYTHING like that. But the idea that every student who went to an offshore school did so just because they wanted to and NOT because they could more easily than get into an american school, is utter BS.

Look, I like the both of you a lot as posters so I don't want this to just spiral out of control, sorry if I hurt your feelings it wasn't intended. International students still work very very hard to get into vet school, and work very hard during vet school. But honestly, the rest of what I said was true.
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Look if you want to speak about Australia, then go for it. But don't pretend to know anything about other countries because it just makes you look ignorant.

I chose to come here because I wanted to come back to Ireland, but the fact still stands that it is just as hard to get into school in the EU/UK as it is in the US. Now maybe that is not true for the AU. Sorry to hear that. But you are wrong otherwise. And I would prefer you not demean people I know and am friends with here who worked their asses off to get into vet school. And have very high GPAs and a ****e ton of vet experience.

I know a quite a few people who got into school in the US and here, but chose to come here to study.... so how do you like them apples?
 
devyn said:
Look if you want to speak about Australia, then go for it. But don't pretend to know anything about other countries because it just makes you look ignorant.

I chose to come here because I wanted to come back to Ireland, but the fact still stands that it is just as hard to get into school in the EU/UK as it is in the US. Now maybe that is not true for the AU. Sorry to hear that. But you are wrong otherwise. And I would prefer you not demean people I know and am friends with here who worked their asses off to get into vet school. And have very high GPAs and a ****e ton of vet experience.

I know a quite a few people who got into school in the US and here, but chose to come here to study.... so how do you like them apples?
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There are certainly some vet schools outside the U.S. that accept lower GPAs than American schools and have less competition for the number of seats they have available, but that is not the norm. To say that any American who attends veterinary school abroad did so because they had no other choice is extremely arrogant.
 
Side note - I see people posting about AVC. What school is this?
 
DVMDream said:
Yes, they are. Maybe not in Australia, but for the UK schools they are just as competitive, have the same GPA requirements and same animal experience requirements. Maybe you should do a little research on what UK schools expect of American applicants before you speak?
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Agreed -- UK schools are intense. I was looking into them.
 
OSUPreVet said:
Side note - I see people posting about AVC. What school is this?
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Atlantic Veterinary College in Prince Edward Island. It's open to residents of Atlantic provinces and international students.
 
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