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Discussion in 'Psychology [Psy.D. / Ph.D.]' started by psydstudent2020, Jan 11, 2019.

  1. psydstudent2020

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    I was hoping some of you have feedback on the following sites in terms of which would be the best for a forensic-focused internship. They seem like they offer similar experiences so I was wondering if at this point I could use location to help make ranking decisions, however, I wanted to make sure first if some were better than others. I’m pretty clueless about the forensic community/training. I have other sites to rank but these are the ones that are the most forensic heavy and similar, thus difficult to rank. Thanks!

    Center for Behavioral Medicine - forensic track
    Northeast Oklahoma psychology internship program - Oklahoma forensic center
    Florida state hospital
    Colorado Mental Health Institute Pueblo
    BOP - Tallahassee
    Fulton state hospital - forensic evaluation track
    Larned State Hospital (I honestly don’t know if I could handle living in Kansas; I got depressed after being there just for a day. But if it is the best out of these sites then I would be willing to adjust of course).
    South Florida state hospital


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    Kansas isn't that bad... well... the area where Larned is ....well.. ok that part is that bad lol. Close to CBM is way more fun :)

    I'll let someone else speak to the forensic stuff. I just wanted to voice an opinion about Kansas lol.
     
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    Larned. omg. The entire town works at that hospital or prison.

    BOP sites that come to mind: Butner (If they still have one there); Springfield; Lexington.
    State Hospitals: Atascadero; Patton; Pueblo; Arkansas State Hospital; Central Regional Hospital (NC)
     
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    Larned has had alot of bad incidents due to inadequate staffing--just google it. Why anyone would work at a place like that for a typical psychologist salary is beyond me?
     
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    From what I have heard, Florida is highly litigious. Can go either way for you.
     
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    What are your goals?
     
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    The state of Florida?


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    I want to become a forensic evaluator, but unlike some I am still interested in doing therapy as well.


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    The hospital is run by the State
     
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    Yeah I did notice that when I looked them up, but everyone was saying how competitive we would be for post-doc due to the forensic training. But if it is no better than the other sites I mentioned then I would like to know since the location is almost unlivable in my opinion (an hour drive to a Walmart, two hours for anything else).


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    Do you mean that the psychologists get sued often?


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    Did you mention those sites because they are particularly exceptional? I had an interview at Pueblo.


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    Maybe, but whatevs. Some sites are risky to work in. When its even more dangerous due to incompetence/neglect from the admin and state, I don't risk my safety for the sake of "but its great training."
     
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    Basically, yes.
     
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    Hm, do you know why that is? at one of my interviews they said Florida has the highest standard for licenses so if you got licensed there it would be easy to get licensed anywhere.


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    Your degree of license portability in no way protects you from litigation or the outcomes of litigation.

    Moreso, it doesn't protect you from various biases/legal precedents regarding provider liability that vary from state to state.

    As an aside, what does "highest standard" mean? More/ the most post-doctoral hours, more exams, higher EPPP score required? Whats special about Florida? None of these factors will have a bearing on you being sued successfully or not.
     
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    Thank you all for the helpful info about Florida and Larned. Does anyone know anything about sites listed (besides Larned)?


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    All of those sites I listed above I would trust in terms of their approach to training at the internship level in forensic psychology. I cant speak as much on pueblo now, but when I interviewed there years ago there was the opportunity to get comprehensive practical training and didactics on a variety of psycholegal issues. And at that time, the people who were providing that training were to be trusted. I cant say if that's true anymore now though. I would also avoid Florida....for a variety of reasons. I would also stay as far away as you possibly can from St. E's. They are nothing more than a glorified forensic psych workhouse that has lived off of there name and name alone for quite some time now.
     
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    Center for Behavioral Medicine - forensic track - As of a few years ago they were a bit more therapy oriented than I wanted
    Northeast Oklahoma psychology internship program - Oklahoma forensic center - I heard horrible things about this site a few years ago.
    Florida state hospital - I have heard the training is solid
    Colorado Mental Health Institute Pueblo - Not sure, but I think it is a decent option.
    BOP - Tallahassee - Can you do forensic evals here?
    Fulton state hospital - forensic evaluation track - I know someone who loved this site and got good training here. This is the one I would rank the highest if I wanted to do forensic evals.
    Larned State Hospital (I honestly don’t know if I could handle living in Kansas; I got depressed after being there just for a day. But if it is the best out of these sites then I would be willing to adjust of course). - I know someone who was assaulted here recently.
    South Florida state hospital - Not sure
     
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    You named Pueblo but not Fulton. Do you know anything about their training program?


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    I only know of Fulton superficially. From what I have heard, the site mirrors the opportunities at other solid state hospital's for training in common psycho-legal referral questions. (They also have a solid competency restoration program, relatively speaking).
     
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    Does anyone know if it matters if one hospital is technically a “forensic hospital” versus ones like Fulton that are regular state hospitals, yet provide copious forensic training?


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    If it matters in what sense?
     
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    No, it does not "matter." Look for opportunities for forensic training regardless of the name of the hospital (as long as it is APA-accredited, etc.)
     
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