Future of denstist's in North America

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According to some people, the future of dentist's is not looking too great. I have very limited info on this topic thats why i asked people about it and now i will write the feedback that i got. Most of the people told me that in next 7-10 years there will be more dental grads out and less job openings resulting in saturation. To me this does not make any sense but any word on this would be much appreciated. Thanks!

 

[1992Corolla]

According to some people, the future of dentist's is not looking too great. I have very limited info on this topic thats why i asked people about it and now i will write the feedback that i got. Most of the people told me that in next 7-10 years there will be more dental grads out and less job openings resulting in saturation. To me this does not make any sense but any word on this would be much appreciated. Thanks!

They are wrong. Plain and simple.

 

[ediddly]

According to some people, the future of dentist's is not looking too great. I have very limited info on this topic thats why i asked people about it and now i will write the feedback that i got. Most of the people told me that in next 7-10 years there will be more dental grads out and less job openings resulting in saturation. To me this does not make any sense but any word on this would be much appreciated. Thanks!

it's actually the exact opposite--there will be more dentists retiring in the coming years than there will be dentists graduating from school. the ratio of dentists to available patients is set to decrease for the next several years, according to any of the statistics i've seen.

 

[Regmata]

Pretty sure we will be ok...especially once the baby boomers are outta here

 

[Ewok1984]

any know which years will majority of baby boomer dentists retire? I remember seeing the figured somewhere, but forgot. Thanks

 

[laundry]

from time to time someone will come along with this bulls*t. gotta love SDN...

The future of dentists: sunny and mild 🙂

 

[gyzeus]

There is no set year. Some babyboomers who have reached the wealth they want to reach have retired years ago while others will practice for years to come. There is no way anyone can say any given year will be the year that a majority of the babyboomers will retire.

True..I've shadowed 3 dentists which were all in their early to mid fifties and two of them said they were planning to retire around 5-10 years later and one probably won't be retiring for quite some time since he planned to have an associate run the place.

Does babyboomer year count from peopled in their 50-70's?
Or does it also include people in their 40's right now?

 

[gyzeus]

Yes, with the babyboomers who make up a large portion of the dental community reaching retirement age, we have to replace them. With people living longer, less dentists graduating from dental school now than there was in the past

I've read many threads saying that there is less dentists graduating than the past, but are these stats also considering the new schools that have opened recently or plan to open in a few years? Or are these numbers just based on number of studentst in current schools? I'm asking because I think there will be a huge difference between the two cases...

 

[NYUCD2010]

Maybe up in the foreign land of Canadia, where people partake in strange institutions like socialized healthcare, Canadian bacon, and Molson's... but definitely not the case in the U.S.

According to some people, the future of dentist's is not looking too great. I have very limited info on this topic thats why i asked people about it and now i will write the feedback that i got. Most of the people told me that in next 7-10 years there will be more dental grads out and less job openings resulting in saturation. To me this does not make any sense but any word on this would be much appreciated. Thanks!

 

[clickytop]

Pretty sure we will be ok...especially once the baby boomers are outta here

The next 20 or so years are gonna be a great time to be good at implants and dentures.

 

[blankguy]

The population also keeps expanding. We are now at over 300 million.

 

[blissdental]

Maybe up in the foreign land of Canadia, where people partake in strange institutions like socialized healthcare, Canadian bacon, and Molson's... but definitely not the case in the U.S.

If dentistry is socialized in the US, in order for dentists to maintain their current status, the number of dentists to population(100,000) which is around 60, should be reduced almost to half. You can easily see this through other countries that have socialized dentistry.


In Canada with socialized dentistry, they have a little over 53 dentists per 100,000 which shows why they aren't doing so good even if they have a smaller number of dentists per population than the US.
Same for UK where dentistry is now socialized and the number is around 43 per 1000,000, also not doing so good despite the small number of dentists.
In Korea where dentistry is also socialized, the ratio is around 23 dentists per 100,000 and they are doing great financially. Although a root canal only costs around $80 dollars(because it's covered by insurance) they make it up through asthetics with procedures costing no less than in the US.

 

[poopypants]

Maybe up in the foreign land of Canadia, where people partake in strange institutions like socialized healthcare, Canadian bacon, and Molson's... but definitely not the case in the U.S.

This is way off. Canada has like 6 schools that graduate around 40ppl or more a year. Dental is not part of the health care system. The insurance company's pay very fast and the rest pay out of pocket. I know several dentists up there making 300K and way above take home.

 

[blissdental]

This is way off. Canada has like 6 schools that graduate around 40ppl or more a year. Dental is not part of the health care system. The insurance company's pay very fast and the rest pay out of pocket. I know several dentists up there making 300K and way above take home.

I heard it's partially socialized, isn't it?
But in most cases partially socialized dentistry= socialized dentistry
since the goverment will not be paying for your gold crown or porcelain veener there's only a limited number of procedures that could be covered.

 

[Composite A2]

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[Composite A2]

If dentistry is socialized in the US, in order for dentists to maintain their current status, the number of dentists to population(100,000) which is around 60, should be reduced almost to half. You can easily see this through other countries that have socialized dentistry.


In Canada with socialized dentistry, they have a little over 53 dentists per 100,000 which shows why they aren't doing so good even if they have a smaller number of dentists per population than the US.
Same for UK where dentistry is now socialized and the number is around 43 per 1000,000, also not doing so good despite the small number of dentists.
In Korea where dentistry is also socialized, the ratio is around 23 dentists per 100,000 and they are doing great financially. Although a root canal only costs around $80 dollars(because it's covered by insurance) they make it up through asthetics with procedures costing no less than in the US.

In Canada dentistry is privatized, what is socialized dentistry? Do you mean universal healthcare? You are very wrong about the current situation of dentistry in Canada. Facts must come before opinions and when you intend to used these facts make sure they are correct. Dentistry is a private system of health care. Social Services are awarded but to low income households that can not afford to pay for dental care, but this service is selective only for those individuals who qualify. The rest pay.

 

[blissdental]

In Canada dentistry is privatized, what is socialized dentistry? Do you mean universal healthcare? You are very wrong about the current situation of dentistry in Canada. Facts must come before opinions and when you intend to used these facts make sure they are correct. DENTISTRY IN CANADA IS A PRIVATE SYSTEM OF HEALTHCARE!!

If I'm wrong, you could make corrections but no need to lose your temper.
I got those words from pre-dent friends in Canada that are preparing to come to the US dental schools. I guess I took their words without any questions because I saw how eager they wanted to come.

 

[blissdental]

Dentistry is a private system of health care. Social Services are awarded but to low income households that can not afford to pay for dental care, but this service is selective only for those individuals who qualify. The rest pay.

So are dentists doing alot better in Canada since they have a private system and a smaller number of dentists to population?

 

[poopypants]

So are dentists doing alot better in Canada since they have a private system and a smaller number of dentists to population?

From what I have seen the detists in Canada do very well. I have a friend who graduated from UBC a couple of years ago, made 200k his first year, then opened his own pactice and neted a little over 400K this year. I also have three family friends that also make this and more. Also $1 american=$1Canadian.

 

[ryry]

i say all those retiring dentists are gonna start having problem with their old teeth falling out. we can help them eat some good food again 🙂

 

[Ital91]

blissdental you are mistaken about dentistry in canada. Dentistry is completely privatized and there are only a few dental schools which graduate a small amount of students. The small number of dental seats is reflected in the admission statistics: most schools require gpa around 3.9 and 22AA.

Also socialization of healthcare is a good thing not a bad thing. Unfortunately most americans have not lived under a universal health care system and dont fully understand it. The countries with the top rated health care systems and highest standard of living indexes all have universal healthcare. Think of it this way. In US an insurance company is the middleman making a profit. If you eliminate the middleman the cost of health care becomes much cheaper. The result, countries like canada, sweden, france etc. spend about 9-10 % of GDP on healthcare where as the US spends about 15 % of the GDP on healthcare. Just some food for thought. There is no doubt that for people who can afford insurance that the US healthcare system is top notch, but unfortunately not everyone can.

 

[makushin]

blissdental you are mistaken about dentistry in canada. Dentistry is completely privatized and there are only a few dental schools which graduate a small amount of students. The small number of dental seats is reflected in the admission statistics: most schools require gpa around 3.9 and 22AA.

Also socialization of healthcare is a good thing not a bad thing. Unfortunately most americans have not lived under a universal health care system and dont fully understand it. The countries with the top rated health care systems and highest standard of living indexes all have universal healthcare. Think of it this way. In US an insurance company is the middleman making a profit. If you eliminate the middleman the cost of health care becomes much cheaper. The result, countries like canada, sweden, france etc. spend about 9-10 % of GDP on healthcare where as the US spends about 15 % of the GDP on healthcare. Just some food for thought. There is no doubt that for people who can afford insurance that the US healthcare system is top notch, but unfortunately not everyone can.

Well if you're canadian, you've never lived under the american system, so I guess you don't fully understand it either. Here's one thing I do understand: 15% sales tax everytime I go to BC is outrageous. Also my American buddy got hurt in a hockey game in Canada and they had to medevac him from Whitehorse all the way to Anchorage for care. So much for bieng perfect.

 

[gryffindor]

Well if you're canadian, you've never lived under the american system, so I guess you don't fully understand it either. Here's one thing I do understand: 15% sales tax everytime I go to BC is outrageous. Also my American buddy got hurt in a hockey game in Canada and they had to medevac him from Whitehorse all the way to Anchorage for care. So much for bieng perfect.

You hear stories like this all the time. Last summer there was a quadruplet birth in Calgary which is a big city with a population over 1 million. There weren't enough NICU beds for all the babies that week in Calgary. They had to fly the mother over to a hospital in a podunk town in Montana with a population of 50,000 so that all the babies could have access to the NICU. According to the province, this wasn't the first time Alberta had to borrow NICU beds from the hospital in Montana that year, it was the fifth. The province did pick up the tab for the care. When I lived in Buffalo, there were plenty of Canadians who used to come down to the Buffalo MRI center and pay to get their imaging done the same day rather than wait around for weeks to have it done in Ontario. So much for socialized health care. Seems like it only works if you have a privitized country next door than can handle your overflow when you fail to meet your population's needs.

 

[poopypants]

I lived in Canada until 17, and the last 8yrs in the US. Canadas healthcare system is way superior to the US having experienced both systems. It is nice to not have to worry about your health insurance plan and how to pay for the care. As for all the story's on the Canadian healthcare system, I'm sure a few are true, but represent 0.000000000000001% of the population. Most people are very pleased with the system in Canada. Ya 14% sales tax sucks, and paying $20 for a $6 US burger sucks to, but Canadas health care system is still better than ours.

 

[blissdental]

Also socialization of healthcare is a good thing not a bad thing. Unfortunately most americans have not lived under a universal health care system and dont fully understand it. The countries with the top rated health care systems and highest standard of living indexes all have universal healthcare. Think of it this way. In US an insurance company is the middleman making a profit. If you eliminate the middleman the cost of health care becomes much cheaper. The result, countries like canada, sweden, france etc. spend about 9-10 % of GDP on healthcare where as the US spends about 15 % of the GDP on healthcare. Just some food for thought. There is no doubt that for people who can afford insurance that the US healthcare system is top notch, but unfortunately not everyone can.

I've lived in countries where health care is socialized and also in the US where it is not. And as I mentioned in my first post, I'm actually not against universal health care as long as the number of dentists are cut down and the goverment pays a bit better than medicaid.
Seriously, if patients think that it would be better to have the dentist spend 15-20 mins on their root canal and pay $80 under national health insurance than having the dentist fully take their time and pay $400, than I'm willing to provide the service. This is how it worked out when I lived in a country where health care was socialized, and in order for even this to work out and the dentist to pay back loans and make some profit after overhead, there had to be a less number of dentists.