Future of Pharmacy practice Faculty

[PharmD or nursing]

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Hi, with continuously decreasing enrollment of PharmD students every year, what is the future of pharmacy faculty？ how about the faculty job security

 

[metformin800]

Probably not looking good. At my school, 3 of faculties quit and move to different university for work and they aren’t working for pharmacy school.

 

[lord999]

(Tenured) We're lovin' it! With less undergraduate students, we have more time for our more productive graduate students and allowing us more time to spend on funding matters. It's never been a better time to be tenured faculty as the lesser burden allows us to work on our own projects and professional interests. For the practice faculty, we simply don't care as 90% don't stay more than 5 years in the best of times. For the tuition dependent universities, worse students for lower pay is their fate and it makes our jobs in the research intensive more secure. We've had an easier time recruiting good PharmD students into the graduate programs given the market as well, so it's win--win-win (less undergraduate responsibilities and less accountability, more professional opportunities, better recruitment) for the tenured faculty with the oversaturation.

 

[PharmD or nursing]

(Tenured) We're lovin' it! With less undergraduate students, we have more time for our more productive graduate students and allowing us more time to spend on funding matters. It's never been a better time to be tenured faculty as the lesser burden allows us to work on our own projects and professional interests. For the practice faculty, we simply don't care as 90% don't stay more than 5 years in the best of times. For the tuition dependent universities, worse students for lower pay is their fate and it makes our jobs in the research intensive more secure. We've had an easier time recruiting good PharmD students into the graduate programs given the market as well, so it's win--win-win (less undergraduate responsibilities and less accountability, more professional opportunities, better recruitment) for the tenured faculty with the oversaturation.

I am not talking about pharmaceutical science faculty who recruit phd students to do research, or write funding proposal.

I mean pharmacy practice faculty who only teach pharmD students , there is no graduate students for them, their research limited to Pharmacy Practice only.

 

[lord999]

I am not talking about pharmaceutical science faculty who recruit phd students to do research, or write funding proposal.

I mean pharmacy practice faculty who only teach pharmD students , there is no graduate students for them, their research limited to Pharmacy Practice only.

I speak of the Pharmacy Practice faculty who are tenure track as well who have the same sorts of feelings. Do you mean clinical faculty, who are contractors? Their jobs never work out as they are treated as second class citizens and they figure it out. It's never great for them, but it can be good. Most get kicked out with nonrenewals (get too expensive to retain) or resign for better opportunities.

The somewhat unflattering look doesn't describe all tenure faculty, but it describes the majority of them where there are actually penalties from being too good at undergraduate education.

 

[PharmD or nursing]

I speak of the Pharmacy Practice faculty who are tenure track as well who have the same sorts of feelings. Do you mean clinical faculty, who are contractors? Their jobs never work out as they are treated as second class citizens and they figure it out. It's never great for them, but it can be good. Most get kicked out with nonrenewals (get too expensive to retain) or resign for better opportunities.

The somewhat unflattering look doesn't describe all tenure faculty, but it describes the majority of them where there are actually penalties from being too good at undergraduate education.

Thank you for your reply.
But I am confused. How can a faculty with pharmD degree recruit phd student to do research? I mean pharmacy practice faculty with pharmd degree but no phd degree, which is common in pharmacy practice department.
As far as I know only faculty with phd can recruit graduate students to do research.

Are you mentioning fellowship ? Faculty as a Preceptor?

May I ask what university are you in? Public Research university or private ?

My worry is if most schools can not attack enough Pharmd students , pharmacy practice faculty will likely loose their job, as teaching is their majority work.

 

[PharmD or nursing]

And is there a salary decreasing for pharmacy faculty ? In general around 100k is quite common, will it decrease in the future?