Ganglion impar cpt

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I only do cash for this procedure now. no one covers ganglion impar procedures in WA state anymore. I think cancer pain might be covered but thats it. like genicular and SIJ for some insurances, its "experimental".......le sigh
 
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For those doing genicular rfa, since 64454 and 64624 are “experimental” are there any other codes that you are using? 64450 i suppose could be used for the block, but what about rfa? And for those of you charging cash, what are you charging? Any of you charging cash performing the rfa in an asc?
 
For those doing genicular rfa, since 64454 and 64624 are “experimental” are there any other codes that you are using? 64450 i suppose could be used for the block, but what about rfa? And for those of you charging cash, what are you charging? Any of you charging cash performing the rfa in an asc?
Don’t change the code, you won’t withstand an audit. I had one patient willing to pay cash at the ASC.
 
For those doing genicular rfa, since 64454 and 64624 are “experimental” are there any other codes that you are using? 64450 i suppose could be used for the block, but what about rfa? And for those of you charging cash, what are you charging? Any of you charging cash performing the rfa in an asc?
Agree with agast. Don't change the code. The blocks are paid for by most insurance with the correct code.

The ablation is the issue, virtually all non regular medicare insurance plans don't cover it (including medicare advantage plans). I've done a couple genicular ablations for cash in the ASC, however most patients aren't excited about a yearly cash cost.

Unless they are bone on bone, I do regenerative medicine for cash before genicular for cash, because if the regen med works, it works for longer than a year
 
For those doing genicular rfa, since 64454 and 64624 are “experimental” are there any other codes that you are using? 64450 i suppose could be used for the block, but what about rfa? And for those of you charging cash, what are you charging? Any of you charging cash performing the rfa in an asc?
About $500 around here in office.
 
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