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Thining about rads, but wanted to know...

1) Is rads safe for doctors? Heard IV rads dengerous as high expsure, ensuing cataracts and leukemias in many Drs
2) will salaries stay $250,000 + or will outsourcing, telerads, lowering reimbursments kill this?
3) is rads boring? are the people stiffs? any exposure to hot chicks?
4) what 4th yr electvies to do? does it matter?
5) Someone with mid 220s on step 1, will they get interviews? how many programs to apply to?
6) for those doing it and hating it, what would they go into now knowing what they know now?
7) hot fellowships? pediatrics? neuro? any point in doing these after 5 years of training money/job wise?
thanks!
 
I am very curious as to your level of training. 3rd year medical student???

1). probably, don't really know.

2). 250 is low, my bank account is begging for a yes answer here and believe it to be so. why does everybody worry (all fields), and always say stuff is going to the ****ters?

3). just go down and find out. people can vary a lot though within specialties obviously. where are the hot chicks? I don't see any around the hospital at all... except those young peds nurses...they are hot. OB/GYN may have 2/1000, good luck with the other 998. the good college days where every girl you pass is smoking hot are over my friend. slim pickens these days. keep your standards high, don't go ugly early.

4). variety. not a lot of radiology. probably doesn't matter. taking it as easy as possible matters though. don't be a jackass and take all the medicine subspecialties you can think up, i don't think it helps and you have just wasted a great year of your life.

5). 220's is okay, but will probably eliminate interviews at top tier places and may limit you at some very good university programs. otherwise, good enough to match into average, decent program. I would say your other parts of your application, medical school, and personality factor in a lot here. Without knowing, it is hard to say. If otherwise stellar, your looking pretty decent. If very poor, not looking so hot but may still match albeit lower down.

Little off topic... the post that gets to me is, "I know I'll get in if I can get just one interview because I have a great personality." Me thinks you a loser and couldn't get in with a 100. Can think it, just don't say it.

6). pick something on the ROAD. Rad, optho, anasthesia, derm.

7). access to academics, more competitive spots. no money benefits.
 
Thanks, yah im a 3rd year, the other thing I like is cardiology, guess i could get decent Medcine spot with 220-230 and see what happens from there, cards also very interesting, plenty of toys, and good moolah more or less, but 3 years of medicine + no sure bet with cards makes rads more attractive, but only if it offers you more free time. i dont know, i met a bunch of dudes that just read on laptops from home and make 300,000-400,000 and have lots of time with the family, that looks nice actually, but reading all day isnt exactly saving lives hands on. otherwise, there is the risk of not matching in rads and having to scramble to some leftover med spot and not terribly excited about. the rest of the 'ROAD' looks out of my leauge (O, D) or boring (A), so of all the other things to choose all I can come up with is medicine with the chance of doing something better after or maybe neurology but they say you cant really cure anyone so whats the point of that. thats my rammble, and no my personality is mediocore which is why i need help with both the chicks, and do not hope to rely on it to get me a rads spot. thanks g
ps, dont want to start a hole racist thing, but is there affirmitive action type preference in getting competitive residencies like there is in getting into med school where ceratin pepel can get like a 21 on the MCAT and get in, but certain other types get 30+ and dont, like can thye get 190 on the USMLE a and get stuff a guy like me with a 220-230 couldnt?
 
Im somewhat interested in Rads and had a quick question for anyone that may know:

To match in Rads, do you have to be great in math and physics? I wouldn't say I'm stellar in those areas, so I was wondering how much that factors in to getting a Rads residency...
 
Im somewhat interested in Rads and had a quick question for anyone that may know:

To match in Rads, do you have to be great in math and physics? I wouldn't say I'm stellar in those areas, so I was wondering how much that factors in to getting a Rads residency...

on a related note....what if you don't even like physics?
 
I must be stalking you, Dunce. I was just thinking the same thing reading this thread. I like radiology--even more so after finding out about those procedures on your thread in the EM forum; but, I don't exactly find physics to be the bee's knees.
 
I must be stalking you, Dunce. I was just thinking the same thing reading this thread. I like radiology--even more so after finding out about those procedures on your thread in the EM forum; but, I don't exactly find physics to be the bee's knees.

Great minds think alike.

It's kind of funny. I just checked to see if there were any new responses to that other thread and then this before I call it a night. I saw you were the most recent to make a comment and thought "man, that guy's everywhere" :laugh:
 
i met a bunch of dudes that just read on laptops from home and make 300,000-400,000 and have lots of time with the family, that looks nice actually, but reading all day isnt exactly saving lives hands on. otherwise, there is the risk of not matching in rads and having to scramble to some leftover med spot and not terribly excited about. the rest of the 'ROAD' looks out of my leauge...


Keep in mind that these telerad stories that you hear are not the norm. A radiology residency is not about reading studies in your pj's. After talking to a few PDs and residents, it has become pretty clear to me that radiology involves A LOT of self-directed reading. Depending upon the training program, call nights can get quite busy. Furthermore, if PDs get a sense that you are only after a lifestyle specialty, this is a major turnoff.

As for playing a role in saving lives "hands on," I have a few thoughts on that. Think about how often physicians of any specialty actually bring a patient back from the verge of death. It does not really happen as often as ER or Grey's Anatomy would have us believe. Unless you are doing EM or surgical trauma, the practice of medicine doesn't really carry all that much drama. The average ER has trauma, MI's, or other acute events. But these events pop up between a steady flow of runny noses, suicidal ideations, social admissions, COPD/CHF exacerbations, minor lacs, and atypical chest pain that eventually rules out for MI. As physicians of any specialty, we will have to wade through a sea of problems/complaints which are supratentorial, benign, or a direct result of the patients' poor lifestyle choices--smoking, drinking, eating too much, exercising too little, failing to "just say NO" to drugs, or engaging in unprotected sex. In reality, most of the potential to save lives lies in prevention--finding an effective way to save patients from themselves. But all good physicians should maintain an index of suspicion that makes them able to detect the ability to recognize threats to life, limb, sight, and quality of life. In radiology, you might not get to be a direct part of those TV drama moments in patient's lives (after all, the Thursday night drama on NBC is called "ER" not "CT"). But radiologists play a big roll in the background. A surgeon may choose to operate or not to operate based upon a radiologist's interpretation. In IR, radiologists might be consulted for a vena cava filter in a patient with DVT/PE who cannot be anticoagulated. A peds radiologist might discover the subtle fractures in various stages of healing that raises the suspicion of abuse, and ultimately leads a child to be removed from an abusive home. If you need to get credit from the patients/families in order to be fulfilled as a physician, that doesn't make you a bad person. But it might make you an unhappy radiologist. Just be honest with yourself, and hopefully the right answer will come to you. Best of luck with your decision.

(Disclaimer: I am a 4th year med student, and this is just one MS-4's opinion)
 
I must be stalking you, Dunce. I was just thinking the same thing reading this thread. I like radiology--even more so after finding out about those procedures on your thread in the EM forum; but, I don't exactly find physics to be the bee's knees.

Do you at least find physics to be the cat's meow?
 
Thining about rads, but wanted to know...

1) Is rads safe for doctors? Heard IV rads dengerous as high expsure, ensuing cataracts and leukemias in many Drs
2) will salaries stay $250,000 + or will outsourcing, telerads, lowering reimbursments kill this?
3) is rads boring? are the people stiffs? any exposure to hot chicks?
4) what 4th yr electvies to do? does it matter?
5) Someone with mid 220s on step 1, will they get interviews? how many programs to apply to?
6) for those doing it and hating it, what would they go into now knowing what they know now?
7) hot fellowships? pediatrics? neuro? any point in doing these after 5 years of training money/job wise?
thanks!

my 2 cents:

1) radiologists have a slightly higher, but statistically significant, chance of developing a malignancy. it's still lower than airline pilots though, i think.

2) probably. radiology is being/will be hit hard by medicare reimbursement cuts. the good news about radiology is that it's always on the forefront of technology, coming up with something new for which to bill is only a matter of time.

3) clearly not. not too many hot chicks at work, but there will be plenty once they see your pay check.

4) do one radiology rotation at your school then maybe one away radiology rotation. you'll find that student radiology rotations are remarkably similar and mostly observational. there's not much else to learn from doing rotation after rotation. the only exception may be a full month of IR where they'll let you do procedures. other than that, do whatever you want.

5) you'll get some interviews, but don't be picky about where you go. apply to 40+ programs.

6) honestly, it's never come up. i've known lots of people who did something else and then switched to radiology, but i've never known anyone to do the opposite.

7) it depends. if you're going to a city to practice, then a fellowship will make you more attractive to a practice. in a rural environment, it doesn't matter so much.
 
5) Someone with mid 220s on step 1, will they get interviews? how many programs to apply to?

According to the 2005 match data, 179 people applied with a score in that range and a mere 169 matched. I wouln't sweat it....
 
Just so the question doesn't get lost in the fray, does anyone know if you have to be really good at physics to be a good radiologist?
 
Just so the question doesn't get lost in the fray, does anyone know if you have to be really good at physics to be a good radiologist?

i'm not sure how you're defining "really good", but in general i would say you only need to be adequate. most radiologists view the physics board as something to pass rather than a chance to shine. remember, also, that this is physics applied to a specific field - it's not like it's theoretical physics.
 
Being good with math and physics can only help, esp. if you want to do research/academics... but for most, it seems to just be a means to an end. Many have no interest in it and will still do quite well (although studying for the physics board will require concerted effort).
 
joe... in response to your last question... I really think it is all the same at this point.
 
Great minds think alike.

It's kind of funny. I just checked to see if there were any new responses to that other thread and then this before I call it a night. I saw you were the most recent to make a comment and thought "man, that guy's everywhere" :laugh:

:laugh: Yeah, I'm kind of all over the place certain days. I really need to get my oil changed, but by the time I get home, I don't feel like doing much.

Caffeinated said:
Do you at least find physics to be the cat's meow?

Heh. Maybe the cat's meow. Certainly not the cat's pajamas, but perhaps the meow.
 
Thanks Colbgw and Cliff for the response!
 
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