General Surgery Community Programs in Chicago?

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Hi,

Does anyone know the differences between the 3 community programs in general surgery in Chicago - UIC Metro, UIC Mt Sinai, and St Joseph - in terms of resident happiness, matching of fellowships, and overall impressions?

Thanks!

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Hi,

Does anyone know the differences between the 3 community programs in general surgery in Chicago - UIC Metro, UIC Mt Sinai, and St Joseph - in terms of resident happiness, matching of fellowships, and overall impressions?

Thanks!

They're all miserable. Stay away.
 
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I will comment on Mt. Sinai. I recently interviewed there and will admit I was unimpressed. I applied to many midwest programs, mostly academic and some community (so already you can see it wasn't my type of program). Dinner the night before was fine but I didn't really feel like a clicked with the residents like I did at some of the other programs. On interview day the PD was a no show because of a "family issue" (felt like the coordinator was purposefully sidestepping the word emergency) and the first words out of the chairs mouth was "Here patients come first, your education comes second" While I agree the patient always comes first, I don't think the two need to necessarily be separate. Debate for another thread. At the very least, he could have found some better words to break the ice.

In any event, the chair is a very old school type surgeon and drilled all his applicants (myself included). That wasn't such a big deal but the purpose of the interaction was unclear. It didn't appear he wanted to put us under pressure...almost simply to pick fights. Rubbed me and several other applicants the wrong way and not the type of person I want to be working for. As far as the hospital it is in a very bad part of Chicago and very run down. Security was found in every hall way of the hospital. Their are very few elective surgeries when compared to other programs (sorry can't remember #s off the top of my head) and most of their #s come from trauma. Very large amount of penetrating. It is very sad to be honest. The hospital is obviously underfunded, understaffed, and in need of help. I think the residents and attendings that work there must be great people to work in a place like that which obviously needs them.

In the end if your goal is end up working in an underserved community, and you want a great trauma experience, this is absolutely the program for you. I simply wasn't a good fit for this program. I will also say that I am friends with one of the interns who was at my school last year. While this was not high up on his match list, he tells me he is very happy and learning great surgery. Hope it helps!
 
I will comment on Mt. Sinai. I recently interviewed there and will admit I was unimpressed. I applied to many midwest programs, mostly academic and some community (so already you can see it wasn't my type of program). Dinner the night before was fine but I didn't really feel like a clicked with the residents like I did at some of the other programs. On interview day the PD was a no show because of a "family issue" (felt like the coordinator was purposefully sidestepping the word emergency) and the first words out of the chairs mouth was "Here patients come first, your education comes second" While I agree the patient always comes first, I don't think the two need to necessarily be separate. Debate for another thread. At the very least, he could have found some better words to break the ice.

In any event, the chair is a very old school type surgeon and drilled all his applicants (myself included). That wasn't such a big deal but the purpose of the interaction was unclear. It didn't appear he wanted to put us under pressure...almost simply to pick fights. Rubbed me and several other applicants the wrong way and not the type of person I want to be working for. As far as the hospital it is in a very bad part of Chicago and very run down. Security was found in every hall way of the hospital. Their are very few elective surgeries when compared to other programs (sorry can't remember #s off the top of my head) and most of their #s come from trauma. Very large amount of penetrating. It is very sad to be honest. The hospital is obviously underfunded, understaffed, and in need of help. I think the residents and attendings that work there must be great people to work in a place like that which obviously needs them.

In the end if your goal is end up working in an underserved community, and you want a great trauma experience, this is absolutely the program for you. I simply wasn't a good fit for this program. I will also say that I am friends with one of the interns who was at my school last year. While this was not high up on his match list, he tells me he is very happy and learning great surgery. Hope it helps!

Great, thanks for the info...I felt much like you did except for the residents, I thought they had a great time at dinner and seemed 'normal.' The hospital is in bad shape, and not in the best neighborhood, but the experience seemed pretty good. Thanks again for your input.
 
I think AMY is a chief at UIC-Metro Group...she should have some insight.

Mt. Sinai gets a ton of trauma and does have underfunding issues so I don't doubt some of what Musashi said.

I know someone in the St. Joseph program....sounds like good, early OR experience, no idea how busy they are though, nor how diverse their cases are.
 
I think AMY is a chief at UIC-Metro Group...she should have some insight.

Mt. Sinai gets a ton of trauma and does have underfunding issues so I don't doubt some of what Musashi said.

I know someone in the St. Joseph program....sounds like good, early OR experience, no idea how busy they are though, nor how diverse their cases are.

Great, thanks for the info.
 
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