Georgian recalls rooming with Michelle Obama

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  1. DoctaJay

    DoctaJay bone breaker Moderator Emeritus 10+ Year Member

    Jan 23, 2005
    San Diego

    Catherine Donnelly shopped at Kmart, settled into her dorm room and soaked up the Gothic stone buildings where, over the next four years, she would grow into her own woman.

    But her first day at Princeton held a surprise, too. And Donnelly knew it would mean confronting the past.

    She walked into the historic Nassau Inn that evening and delivered the news to her mother, Alice Brown. "I was horrified," recalled Brown, who had driven her daughter up from New Orleans. Brown stormed down to the campus housing office and demanded Donnelly be moved to another room.

    The reason: One of her roommates was black.

    "I told them we weren't used to living with black people — Catherine is from the South," Brown said. "They probably thought I was crazy."

    Today both Donnelly, an Atlanta attorney, and Brown, a retired schoolteacher living in the North Carolina mountains, look back at that time with regret. Like many Americans, they've built new perceptions of race on top of a foundation cracked by prejudices past — and present. Yet they rarely speak of the subject.

    Barack Obama's run for president changed that. When the Democratic senator from Illinois invited more dialogue on race last month, Donnelly and Brown, both lifetime Republicans, were ready.

    But their willingness to talk isn't a response to the candidate born to a white woman from Kansas and a black man from Kenya. It's more about Obama's wife, Michelle.

    She's that roommate from a quarter century ago.

    Shock to the stereotype

    The acceptance letter from the Ivy Leagues was really the culmination of two peoples' hard work. "My mother was thrilled," Donnelly jokes, that she got into Princeton.

    Divorced and living paycheck to paycheck, Brown found a way to get her only child into New Orleans' elite Isidore Newman School: She taught 8th-grade science there. They were a mother-and-daughter team, then with the surname Rodrigue.

    Donnelly, now 44, captained the basketball and volleyball teams. She was the homecoming queen. And she racked up science and math awards, often with the help of her mother.

    But the "Three R's" weren't the only thing Donnelly learned from an early age. There was a fourth one. Her mother and grandmother filled her head with racist stereotypes, portraying African-Americans as prone to crime, uneducated and, at times, people to be feared.

    Brown, 71, explains that she was raised to think that way. She recalls hearing her grandfather, a sheriff in the North Carolina mountains, brag about running black visitors out of the county before nightfall. And Brown's parents held on to the n-word like a family heirloom.

    In fact, upon learning that her daughter had a black roommate at Princeton, Brown's first call was to her own mother. Her suggestion: yank Donnelly out of school.

    Girl was likable, but black

    The fourth-floor room had three beds, three desks and space for little else. The ceiling sloped in concert with the roof, creating a cramped perch atop the upper crust of American education.

    Quick-witted and nearly 6 feet tall, Michelle Robinson had no problem filling the room, Donnelly recalls. The future Michelle Obama, from Chicago's Southside, would playfully tease the third roommate, who was white. Obama's long fingers still narrate stories in Donnelly's mind. "From the minute we met," she says, "I liked her."

    Donnelly doesn't think Obama ever picked up on her mother's behind-the-scenes maneuvering. She remembers nothing but friendly words. Only now, looking back, does she see the wall between them.

    Donnelly was surprised to find something familiar – segregation – alive and well on a prestigious campus in the Northeast. The university's private eating clubs, host to frat-style parties, were largely white. The social scene for many minority students, including Obama, revolved around an activity building called the Third World Center.

    When Obama began hanging out with other black students on campus, Donnelly never thought to join them. "Here was a really smart black woman who I found charming, interesting and funny," Donnelly says with disappointment. "Just by virtue of having different color skin, we weren't going to be friends."

    Other than confirming that Donnelly was her freshman roommate, Michelle Obama declined, through a campaign spokeswoman, to comment for this story. Her senior thesis, however, delved into the experience of black alumni at Princeton and provides some insight into her mind-set at the time.

    In the introduction, Obama wrote that Princeton made her more aware of her "Blackness" than ever before. "No matter how liberal and open-minded some of my White professors and classmates try to be toward me, I sometimes feel like a visitor on campus; as if I really don't belong," she wrote. "Regardless of the circumstances under which I interact with Whites at Princeton, it often seems as if, to them, I will always be Black first and a student second."

    Donnelly, meanwhile, was struggling with her own identity. She came out that first semester, chopped off her hair and partied with other lesbians on campus. Soon she, too, learned what it feels like to be part of the "other" group, to be seen as a student second.

    Donnelly said she and Obama had established separate circles of friends by second semester. That's when another room – the one her mother had requested – opened up. By then, it just made sense to trade cramped quarters for roomier ones.

    Donnelly doesn't remember having another meaningful exchange with Obama. She graduated with a psychology major in 1985 and forgot all about that tall roommate from Chicago.

    'I was inspired .... I was envious'

    More than two decades passed, and Donnelly, who normally doesn't care much for politics, found herself intrigued by one of the Democrats running for president. She was a little surprised to hear her mother liked Barack Obama, too. Brown had never voted for a Democrat. But she's a sucker for Harvard grads, especially eloquent ones.

    "He thinks well," Brown said recently, though she and Donnelly are still undecided voters. "He seems to be a thoughtful person. He considers everything."

    When Donnelly first saw Obama's wife on TV, she was struck by how tall and graceful she looked. Then she studied her more closely. Michelle Obama looked so familiar, down to those long fingers. Could that be Michelle Robinson?

    A Google search gave Donnelly the answer. Obama was far more than a first-lady hopeful. She had gone to Harvard Law School, had been an associate dean at the University of Chicago and rose to vice president at the University of Chicago Hospitals. Like Donnelly, she was mother to two children.

    "I was inspired," she says. "I was amazed. And I was envious of all she had accomplished."

    Donnelly called her mother, who in turn phoned the friend who had traveled with her to Princeton all those years ago. The friends had stayed up that night calling everyone they knew with a connection to the university, hoping to get Catherine moved. "We thought this is so ironic," Brown says. "[Obama] could be the first lady, and here we wanted to get my child out of her influence."

    Some empathy for lingering anger

    As her 2- and 5-year-old boys play on the front porch, Donnelly flips through a photo album of her own childhood. Brown, in Atlanta for her monthly hair appointment, looks over her daughter's shoulder.

    "There we are," Brown says, "at your graduation."

    In the photo, Donnelly clutches a bouquet in front of her white dress, smiling next to her mother and her grandmother.

    The story of race in America is one of generations: what's passed on, what isn't and the friction between the two.

    When Brown heard about Barack Obama's former pastor — his angry rants against white America — she didn't like it. But she understood. "If I had been treated the same way blacks have been treated," she says, "I'd be resentful, too."

    It was Donnelly, however, who understood Obama's response: "The profound mistake of Reverend Wright's sermons is not that he spoke about racism in our society. It's that he spoke as if our society was static."

    Society changed, and Donnelly has seen her mother nudged along with it. Says Brown: "It's become politically incorrect to talk about black people in a negative way. It's like smoking."

    Brown quit smoking in 1996. She's still working on the other.

    Brown says she wouldn't mind if her child or grandchild roomed with a black person today. But she's far from colorblind. "Where I draw the line is interracial marriage," Brown says. "That I can't quite deal with."

    She holds firm to the belief that African-Americans don't take enough responsibility. "Bill Cosby says the same thing," she says. "Get off your rear end and work hard and improve yourself."

    Donnelly has more empathy. Her junior year psychology paper on affirmative action concluded that the effects of "covert, deep-rooted prejudice" are enduring. And she generally agrees with what Barack Obama said last month: "The disparities that exist in the African-American community today can be directly traced to the inequities passed on from an earlier generation that suffered under the brutal legacy of Jim Crow."

    Living as a gay woman has made Donnelly far more aware of what it's like to be judged by a trait beyond your control. "Being gay is such a small part of who I am."

    Now she wishes she had reached across racial lines at Princeton. "I don't think I ever set foot in the Third World Center," she says of the popular hangout for minority students. "It's like this mystical place."

    Since then, Donnelly has worked and socialized with African-Americans. Yet she hasn't grown close to any of them. "I've just never had an opportunity," she says, "to have a good friend who was black."

    "You did with Michelle," Brown snaps.

    Donnelly rolls her eyes.

    She believes the cycle of racism can be stopped.

    Donnelly turns the pages in the photo album to a picture of an African-American boy standing next to her at school back in New Orleans. "He and a white guy and I would fashion ourselves after the Mod Squad," she says. "We liked to think of ourselves as a little club."

    The friendship started in fifth or sixth grade. And Donnelly sees it as evidence that children have the right instincts.

    Truth is, many paths to the future start with the past. Donnelly thought she'd left that Princeton dorm room for good. Then those long fingers from the campaign trail waved her back inside. At first, she saw only herself and two roommates.

    Now she sees her children and Obama's children waking up in those beds, in a room with no barriers.
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  3. DoctaJay

    DoctaJay bone breaker Moderator Emeritus 10+ Year Member

    Jan 23, 2005
    San Diego
    I really appreciated the honesty of the mother and daughter in this article. I also like how it shows how prevelant alot of these thoughts are. They graduated from Princeton in 1985, the year I was born. I agree alot has changed, and hopefully by the time that I have kids (or grandkids) truly the prejudice will be wiped out.
  4. scarterinscrubs

    scarterinscrubs 7+ Year Member

    Dec 21, 2006
    Seems like she wants attention.
  5. njbmd

    njbmd Guest Moderator Emeritus 5+ Year Member

    May 30, 2001
    Gone Walkabout!
    My Mum saw this and said, "Too late, she already stepped in s--t". You never know who will come into your life and where they will go so treat everyone with respect and treat everyone in a manner as you would like to be treated. In 1985, not having ever "lived with a black" person was not a very good excuse to request another roommate because you are afraid of color. This woman (and her family) blew it badly and now she's looking for her 15 minutes of fame.

    I was in secondary school in the 1970s and at my school, no one would every make such a request as the one above. We were of difference races, ethnicities, creeds, religions and we all roomed together (Army-style). My parents paid for me to have this experience as my secondary school education was far more expensive than my university education. My suite mates were white, asian and native american. If the rents of one person was treating to dinner, we all were included. We just didn't know any other way.

    People (CNN specifically) have made a big deal of this woman but she and her family were idiots in 1985 and now, she is advertising how stupid they were. It seems that they are even more stupid today since they feel obligated to advertise the fact that they were bigots. Some of the folks on this website have had very nasty racist comments placed on their MDApps profiles or in respose to legitimate questions that they have asked. Some of those folks who have received those comments are quite likely to hold the key to cancer cures or may become Surgeon General one day. You never know but look how they have been treated in 2008-2009. Some people are just plain stupid and that Georgia woman is among them. Maybe Michelle Obama might be more charitable than me but I think that if I had done what they did (even back in 1985), I would spend the rest of my life (not just come out when the person I slighted became First Lady) trying to make amends in any and all forms. That woman is looking for attention and nothing more.
  6. LadyMD2b

    LadyMD2b ... moment of silence 2+ Year Member

    Jan 3, 2009
    I agree. This was the LATE 1980's, not 1942. Plus, I don't think their views have changed at all. Her mother openly admits that she's still a racist, and Donnelly claims that she's never had the "opportunity" to become "close" with a black person even though she lives in ATLANTA. :rolleyes: Sorry, but I'm not buying it.
  7. flaahless

    flaahless 7+ Year Member

    Apr 2, 2007
    Count it.
  8. dragonfly99

    dragonfly99 5+ Year Member

    May 15, 2008
    I think Michelle Obama graduated in around 1983 or 1984, didn't she?
    So we are talking the late 70's/early 80's when these 2 met.
    I agree it's off the wall that some people were still like this @that time period.
    Remember, Princeton was a very conservative school at that time...they didn't even start admitting women until some time in the 1970's, and they still had these "eating club"/frat things that the social life revolved around, that you had to get invited into to join. I don't envy Michelle Obama's college experience, because I'll bet it was VERY hard, socially speaking.
  9. LadyMD2b

    LadyMD2b ... moment of silence 2+ Year Member

    Jan 3, 2009
    Yes. Princeton Class of 1985 and Harvard Law Class of 1988
  10. WolverineDoc13

    WolverineDoc13 Good Times in the Midwest 7+ Year Member

    Dec 26, 2008
    I had mixed feelings from this article. I also got the "attention" vibe from Donnelly. I just wish she had tried to patch things up with Obama before publicizing this story. I think that would be the more proper thing to do.

    On another note. I got really interested in the topics of Michelle Obama's senior thesis, and I found a copy online. It's titled "Princeton-Educated Blacks and the Black Community," and can be found here:

    For those who doesn't want to read 66 pages of 1985 typeset, I found an article that talks about the thesis' major points.

    I love Michelle Obama. :)
  11. redlight

    redlight Senior Member :D 5+ Year Member

    Jan 10, 2008
  12. MsKrispyKreme

    MsKrispyKreme The "Hot" sign is on... 7+ Year Member

    Jun 11, 2008

    She's supposedly so enlightened now, and yet she has no Black friends and "draws the line" at interracial marriage? :rolleyes:
  13. scarletgirl777

    scarletgirl777 7+ Year Member

    Mar 25, 2008
    Still HAD? Try still HAVE.
  14. scarletgirl777

    scarletgirl777 7+ Year Member

    Mar 25, 2008
    See, I'm angry that this is still an accepted belief. I've lived in a series of liberal, hyper-educated bubbles so I have to make an effort to remind myself that many people think quite differently from me.
  15. potato head

    potato head 7+ Year Member

    Nov 29, 2007
    i like stories like these. :)
  16. jack frost

    jack frost

    Jan 28, 2009
    I think this story is trully sad. It just further validates the way that I have always felt, most of the time people rather hold on to there stereotypes and perception rather than try to really get to know someone who is different. The person whom wrote this letter was very naive and just as bad as her mother, she should be ashamed, she had the power to make a step in the right direction and she did not.

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