Girl Passed Out During My Exam!!!!

[jammin06]

All right, was gonna post this yesterday, but just got home from a looong night of partying and sobering up.

So long story short, a girl passed out during the physical science section of my exam. She got up with about 15-20 minutes left in the section and then on her way to the door, she feinted, fell, and proceeded to hit her head and commence bleeding. The proctor rushed to the bathroom to get the girl some paper towels and then called 911. So, during the last 10 minutes or so, we have paramedics in the room asking her questions, taking her blood pressure etc... Well, while the proctors were preoccupied with the commotion, they forgot to call "5 minutes left" in the section. Once the section was finished, they had to bring a stretcher into the testing room to get the girl out of the room. Furthermore, we had a 40 minute break between PS and VR.

AHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!! I mean, if i got drunk and tried to come up with the most random way for getting screwed during the MCAT, I would never have come up with this scenario.

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[Psycho Doctor]

wow!! is she alright? that's awful...that's what stress can do for you. i probably would have insisted on taking the test anyway. what area are you from, i could almost guess someone who would fit that scenario b/c she gets so nervous for tests and i haven't heard from her.

 

[antissa]

did they at least pause the section or did they expect you to continue writing and ignore the paramedics and the bleeding girl in the room? 😕

 

[jammin06]

i was taking the exam in birmingham, alabama. from what i coudl gather, i think she was just hypoglyemic and just needed a coke or something.

antissa...yea, they expected us to keep going and ignore the paramedics. the girl ended up coughing and pretty much hacking into the trash can while the section was still going on. I still don't understand why they didn't just take her out of the room or soemthign

 

[DieselPetrolGrl]

or give her a freeking lolly pop
jeebus ppl CARB-O-LOAD
COME ON EAT !
EAT!

 

[junebuguf]

wow!! is she alright? that's awful...that's what stress can do for you. i probably would have insisted on taking the test anyway. what area are you from, i could almost guess someone who would fit that scenario b/c she gets so nervous for tests and i haven't heard from her.

WTF??? Screw the girl. If that $hit happens during my MCAT, I'd freekin find that girl after the test and give her something to bleed about. What an utterly inconsiderate and selfish b!tch. I mean really, of all the ways and times to draw attention to yourself....at an MCAT??? That girl better hope her theres some kind of MCAT-witness-protection-plan or sumthin...

 

[Psycho Doctor]

wow what a compassionate doctor you'll make.... 😀

(i'm sure that was sarcastic, so, so was mine)

 

[jammin06]

seriously, we were considering to start a search party and look for that girl. it's at times like this that these people really need to reconsider whether medicine is for them or not. I mean, this chick had no clue what was goin on. She brought her calculator into the PS section. I knew something was fishy w/ her then.....grrrrrrr

i still find it quite ironic that we had a stretcher come to the one exam that's designed to see who will be accepted into medical school.

 

[antissa]

yes, damn these malicious girls that knock themselves unconscious for attention 🙄
I suppose it's possible she did the fainting on purpose but I highly doubt she meant to bleed herself half to death. In any case, let's give her the benefit of the doubt

I agree that she's probably not cut out for medicine if she can't handle this kind of stress though. Imagine what would happen if she faints when her patient goes into arrest 😱

 

[Psycho Doctor]

maybe she was already having a reaction and wasn't thinking clearly

 

[ExplodingBoy]

one of my friends told me that there were a bunch of girls in the girls bathroom crying after PS....

Its just a friggen test... holy crap.

 

[willthatsall]

As long as she wasn't seriously injured, that is a pretty damn funny story. It sucks the proctors didn't handle it better though.

 

[Psycho Doctor]

but an extremely important one...give them a break

 

[willthatsall]

Just one a side note, if someone brings a calculator to the MCAT, they should be automatically kicked out of the room. For their own sake, because they are in for big trouble.

 

[junebuguf]

Ok I'm dead serious about hunting down this crazy, clueless, career-ruining, mildly ******ed, hypoglycemic, attention-starved-because-daddy-didnt-love-me-or-maybe-he-loved-me-too-much-but-in-an-illegal-West-Virginia-kinda-way ho.
There is absolutely no excuse for coming to an exam of this magnitude unprepared. If you've got a medical condition that can possibly affect the testing environment of others then it is your responsiblity to inform the AAMC and make the appropriate accomodations. If you've got a sugar problem, take a banana with you, eat a box of Count Chocula for breakfast , whatever... Just dont ruin my testing experience because so help me god I will make it my mission in life to hunt you down like a thousand bloodhounds tracking the scent of the rabid, putrid stench that emanates from your filthy, mangy carcass.

I'm Rick James b!tch! Rick James!!!

On a serious note...how can no one else be completely outraged by this? Wherefrom poureth such sympathy but from the hearts of those who knoweth not the agony of the wrethched who had borne such tyranny. Pull your heads out of your asses people, if this had happened during your PS, you'd all be going ape**** right now.

 

[jammin06]

THANK YOU!!!!!

finally, someone who friggin understands what i'm talkin about......preach on brotha'

 

[Kazema]

You want people to slam a girl for passing out? And you want to hunt her down in order to...?

Classy.

If anything blame the paramedics/proctors. Assuming that they knew that there was no spinal/brain injury they should've just moved her out of the room. If they weren't sure then they're not supposed to move her or let her move at all without being secured to a backboard. But I'm sure she wasn't enjoying the attention and annoyance from the entire room either.

 

[jammin06]

it was just all in all a completly horrible experience, regardless of who is to blame. Granted, all this $hit could have been handled in a much better way, but then again, hindsight is always 20/20. I just hope to god that AAMC recognizes this as a "testing abnormality" and fairly does somethign to make sure that all those that were in the room with me on saturday don't get completely screwed

 

[antissa]

my outrage lies with the stupid proctors who did not have the sense to pause for a while or at the least get her out of the room. Someone in another thread said she was bleeding over the eye... did the proctor think to himself "oh I better not move her, she might suffer permanent brain damage?". They're all so concerned with sticking to that little booklet that they read from, god forbide something unforseen should happen that's NOT explicitly written in there 🙄
As for the girl, she has my sympathy too. Fainting is no fun, and she must have suffered a lot of humiliation over the incident (not to mention guys like you threatening to hunt her down and eviscerate her) and her MCAT was ruined too. If she has a diagnosed condition or if this has happened to her before, then yes, I'm annoyed she wasn't more prepared for something like this, but it's possible that it hadn't. How many of us woke up that morning and thought "gee, I should bring a banana in case I faint later".

 

[Assembler]

Wow. That is one of the most inconsiderate responses I have ever heard. I don't have any crazy reactions, but I do get hypoglycemic sometimes. Yes, when it happens, your body burns up, your temperature rises, you get crazy ass headaches, and you may even faint. I know the one and only time it happened to me I was going to fall on the floor literally. It was only then that my doctor found out wtf was going wrong (this was a couple days after surgery), and finally gave me a coke.

Do you have definitive evidence that she knew she was hypoglycemic? No. Neither do you have any proof she deliberately created this situation - somehow I doubt anyone with any type of rationale at all would put themselves in a condition in which a) they are bleeding, b) the paramedics have to come, and c) during the MCAT.

It was obviously not planned. Sometimes unexpected things just happen.

However, I do agree that that was a very unfortunate situation; not only for her, but also for all the other test takers in the room. It is the PROCTORS' fault they did not escort her away from the testing room, where she could be treated appropriately so as to not necessarily disturb anyone else.

I think you should write to AAMC about this.

 

[junebuguf]

...you know, if we were in China you'd have your tongue cut off for having a cell phone go off during the exam. Mandatory sterilization for anyone who dares bring an alarm to the testing center, and mandatory sterilizations for the whole family if you have the temerity to have said alarm go off during the exam. Lets stop the defective genes in their tracks.

I think you get your eyes gouged for farting.

As for the stunt this chick pulled? I fear I lack the wretched inhumanity to invent her punishment. But somewhere in the slums of Shanghai, a jaded old man sits on a hard wooden chair smoking an unfiltered cigarette and staring with legs crossed and eyes squinted off into the distance, through a haze of smoke and into a world we dare not imagine in our comfortable, dare I say it...plush world. His thoughts vile, seeking on behalf of others the kind of vigilante justice not seen on network television since the days of the mid-80's television show 'The Equalizer.'

I'm voting Chairman Mao as my write-in candidate this November....who's with me?

 

[Kazema]

it was just all in all a completly horrible experience, regardless of who is to blame. Granted, all this $hit could have been handled in a much better way, but then again, hindsight is always 20/20. I just hope to god that AAMC recognizes this as a "testing abnormality" and fairly does somethign to make sure that all those that were in the room with me on saturday don't get completely screwed

Yeah you should definitely lodge a formal complaint if you haven't already. Emphasize that you think that the proctors should have moved her out of the room and that they mishandled the situation.

 

[Assembler]

...you know, if we were in China you'd have your tongue cut off for having a cell phone go off during the exam. Mandatory sterilization for anyone who dares bring an alarm to the testing center, and mandatory sterilizations for the whole family if you have the temerity to have said alarm go off during the exam. Lets stop the defective genes in their tracks.

And you really vouch for this kind of ****???

I wonder what kind of doctor you're going to be...

 

[jammin06]

letter is typed, signed, sealed and already in the mailbox waiting to be picked up 🙂

 

[antissa]

...you know, if we were in China you'd have your tongue cut off for having a cell phone go off during the exam. Mandatory sterilization for anyone who dares bring an alarm to the testing center, and mandatory sterilizations for the whole family if you have the temerity to have said alarm go off during the exam. Lets stop the defective genes in their tracks.

I think you get your eyes gouged for farting.

As for the stunt this chick pulled? I fear I lack the wretched inhumanity to invent her punishment. But somewhere in the slums of Shanghai, a jaded old man sits on a hard wooden chair smoking an unfiltered cigarette and staring with legs crossed and eyes squinted off into the distance, through a haze of smoke and into a world we dare not imagine in our comfortable, dare I say it...plush world. His thoughts vile, seeking on behalf of others the kind of vigilante justice not seen on network television since the days of the mid-80's television show 'The Equalizer.'

I'm voting Chairman Mao as my write-in candidate this November....who's with me?

Okay, I really think you're just joking now because you like pushing buttons but I'm out of here anyway because just the thought of one of my family/friends putting their lives in your hands one day makes me queasy

 

[Kazema]

And you really vouch for this kind of ****???

I wonder what kind of doctor you're going to be...

He's joking.

Not a particularly good joke, but a joke nonetheless.

 

[junebuguf]

And you really vouch for this kind of ****???

I wonder what kind of doctor you're going to be...

Actually, I dont. Its sorta tounge-in-cheek, sorta not. I really do empathize with people who have serious medical conditions--I even support the right of individuals with ADHD to take the test with extra time. But if this girl *knew* she was hypoglycemic dont you think its her responsibility to come to the testing center prepared.....like maybe some non-crunchy, high-fructose sugar stabilizers?

 

[Pinkertinkle]

I've been to China, and what june says are only half truths!

 

[Assembler]

Actually, I dont. Its sorta tounge-in-cheek, sorta not. I really do empathize with people who have serious medical conditions--I even support the right of individuals with ADHD to take the test with extra time. But if this girl *knew* she was hypoglycemic dont you think its her responsibility to come to the testing center prepared.....like maybe some non-crunchy, high-fructose sugar stabilizers?

If she knew, then yes, of course...

In that case, most of the statements would be warranted.

 

[Kazema]

But if this girl *knew* she was hypoglycemic dont you think its her responsibility to come to the testing center prepared.....like maybe some non-crunchy, high-fructose sugar stabilizers?

But of course you can't actually eat anything in the testing center. She may have been trying to leave the room in order to eat something - who knows? I don't think you can really blame her for this. When it happened she had two choices, pass out at her desk or try to make a break for the coke machine. It just didn't work out is all.

Blame the proctors and/or paramedics if you need someone to blame.

Edit: Mostly the proctors. The paramedics were just doing their job I'm sure.

 

[Clemson Doc]

I think it's smart to write the MCAT Program Office to let them know what happened at your testing center. I also think it's smart not to get your hopes up that they will do anything about it.

What can they do about it? Give everyone two bonus points on their PS score? Let everyone take it again in two weeks? Those solutions would make it easier on those of you at this testing site, but they are also not fair to everyone else at testing centers across America. So the MCAT people aren't likely to do anything, except maybe use this experience as an example of what proctors shouldn't do. That makes it better for all of you I'm sure.

I'm still very sorry that the distraction existed, but most people are likely to tell you that you should've been monitoring your own time better. From the AAMC's perspective, the proctor forgetting to remind you that there are 5 minutes left is hardly a reason to leave 15 questions blank in that section. They would also probably say that you got 45 minutes to rest and/or study between PS and VR, while everyone else got just 10. Is their lack of compassion fair? No, but we're talking about the same people who make this stupid and at times unfair exam.

 

[Assembler]

I had some weird stuff that happened during PS; the proctors stopped us twice incorrectly while we still had time left to go. It's nothing compared to what happened with the guy in this post, but it probably could have prevented if they hadn't been incompetent about it.

Anyway, I looked at AAMC's regulations, and it said they would either give you a refund or let you take it again (pretty much next April). So, those are really not good options. I don't think that's very fair. Also, on my form, one question had a definite error in the answer choices. Well, anyway, AAMC sucks for accomodations.

 

[jammin06]

i agree, i think it beyond fair to try and scale the exam that we were given or readminister the exam under hopefully better conditions. what i am hopeful of is something a guy mentioned during the exam. he said that in situations such as this, AAMC can send a letter with the mcat scores to the medical schools that i will apply to, in hopes of explaining to the medical school that the testing conditions were not ideal and may be partially responsible for whatever my scores might be.

 

[junebuguf]

Its delusional to think that any med school will give weight to a letter explaining why your scores may not be representative of your true abilities. Med schools are inundated with applications, unless your numbers are otherwise astronomical, they would just rather save themselves the hassle and pick the other guy with similar numbers and a better mcat and call it a day.

What really sucks is that there is no real just compensation. You cannot realistically expect to have the scores scaled--thats just not going to happen. Taking it again would suck. Getting a refund? Thats paltry restitution compared to what you've lost.

In the end you are just likely to hear something about how doctors have to deal with distractions during critical periods on the job all the time.

I'm gonna find the most remotest place on the planet to take my MCAT. Any suggestions?

 

[joelmamchur]

Joking about threats is not only immature, but is also no joke. If anyone honestly doesn't feel for this girl, then please, do the world a HUGE favour and quit medicine! I, along with many other people work very hard with honest intentions to hopefully succeed in medicine.... to find that people so heartless are attempting such a career is disgusting. If you were joking, then all I can say is that it is not a tasteful joke. There are certain lines that you simply do not cross.


Instead of convicting this girl, sympathize with her. If I was in her shoes I would be devastated right now......


To the guy whose test conditions were screwed up: It sucks that the test conditions were so unfair. Sucky things sometimes happen..... as a doctor, ideal situations will often not be at your disposal. Still, it's too bad it happened during the MCAT!

 

[shaq786]

Joking about threats is not only immature, but is also no joke. If anyone honestly doesn't feel for this girl, then please, do the world a HUGE favour and quit medicine! I, along with many other people work very hard with honest intentions to hopefully succeed in medicine.... to find that people so heartless are attempting such a career is disgusting. If you were joking, then all I can say is that it is not a tasteful joke. There are certain lines that you simply do not cross.

Instead of convicting this girl, sympathize with her. If I was in her shoes I would be devastated right now......

To the guy whose test conditions were screwed up: It sucks that the test conditions were so unfair. Sucky things sometimes happen..... as a doctor, ideal situations will often not be at your disposal. Still, it's too bad it happened during the MCAT!

I agree. All of you who are blaming this girl for fainting have no heart. You should feel sorry for her, not hate on her. Some of you are blaming her for passing out on purpose. Yea ok. She was bleeding half to death. Thats a logical conclusion to make on your part. And just for your information, there are infinite reasons why you just randomly pass out, which are not related to stress only. I know becuase I've had two episodes long time ago where I've felt extremely light headed for no reason and was close to passing out. But that condition didnt mess me up. I'm still aceing all my classes and I feel stronger than ever before.

Now I understand it sucks for those for those that were in the room at the time it happend. But common lets not blame it on her. She was loosing blood over the whole incident. Show some compassion. And just like someone said earlier, write a letter to AAMC and see what can be done.

And to all those that still want to point the finger at her, you need to re-evaluate yourself. DONT BLAME OTHERS FOR YOUR MCAT DOWNFALL(not pointing any fingers at anyone). It's understandable that the whole incident caused you to loose your concentration and thats why your upset. The only thing that can be done is to write to AAMC.

 

[leviathan]

Comeon. For those who were NOT joking about being angry at a girl for fainting....and accusing her of faking it....man, get a grip on reality. Also, it is hard to say since I did not see it, but if she hit her head hard enough to cause hemmorhaging, then she probably needed c-spine immobilization so there is no way they could have taken her out of the room. I guess that's up to the poster to tell us if the paramedics ended up doing so, or not.

 

[shaq786]

I highly doubt she would fake such a thing. You may ask me why:

1. You can easily cancel your score.
2. If you want to screw someone over, you obviously dont pull a stunt like that to screw over just a small classroom. If you want to screw someone over, then you try and screw everyone over all across the nation, not just one small group of people. Theres really no logical motive in why she would fake it.

 

[Friendly]

WTF??? Screw the girl. If that $hit happens during my MCAT, I'd freekin find that girl after the test and give her something to bleed about. What an utterly inconsiderate and selfish b!tch. I mean really, of all the ways and times to draw attention to yourself....at an MCAT??? That girl better hope her theres some kind of MCAT-witness-protection-plan or sumthin...

You are such a selfish person for posting that. You don't deserve to be admitted to med/ school EVER!

 

[drguy22]

ouch...im not takin sides...but i should realize that EVERYONE was under stres......i know for my ...my life flashed before my eyes...i was so nervous......just try to understand both sides before anyone makes and harsh commens!

 

[Psycho Doctor]

you know i agree. First and foremost i feel for the girl; she had a medical condition and a medical emergency. Whether she should have made proper arrangements is a separate situation, but wha thappened happened and soemtimes you can not plan for these things. In addition everyone was so stressed during this period and maybe the stress caused other health conditions to become more eminent. I do agree that the proctor handled it wrong; probably should have stopped the test somehow and then given additional time. No one who has an ounce of compassion could have ignored what was happening around them with a girl needed emergency care.

Definitely everyone should write and complain and perhaps the aamc will be better prepared with these stupid rules for such situations and proctors should learn how to make more appropriate decisions regarding testing rules.

 

[Psycho Doctor]

i agree, i think it beyond fair to try and scale the exam that we were given or readminister the exam under hopefully better conditions. what i am hopeful of is something a guy mentioned during the exam. he said that in situations such as this, AAMC can send a letter with the mcat scores to the medical schools that i will apply to, in hopes of explaining to the medical school that the testing conditions were not ideal and may be partially responsible for whatever my scores might be.

i hope in their letter of complaint they also express their compassion for the poor girl suffering an emergency so that the med schools admissions committee doesn't think the same student who cares more about his exam than a poor sick girl will not become a doctor who cares more about his date tha the has to rush home to or the money he'd make seeing more patients than his poor sick patients needing attention and compassion at the time...just a thought 😉

 

[Psycho Doctor]

true. however if you have a medical condition and need to eat, you are allowed to bring food there...you just need to inform the proctors.

 

[Psycho Doctor]

And you really vouch for this kind of ****???

I wonder what kind of doctor you're going to be...

wow people are testy tonite...i guess we are all still appropriately stressed out

 

[Psycho Doctor]

Joking about threats is not only immature, but is also no joke. If anyone honestly doesn't feel for this girl, then please, do the world a HUGE favour and quit medicine! I, along with many other people work very hard with honest intentions to hopefully succeed in medicine.... to find that people so heartless are attempting such a career is disgusting. If you were joking, then all I can say is that it is not a tasteful joke. There are certain lines that you simply do not cross.


Instead of convicting this girl, sympathize with her. If I was in her shoes I would be devastated right now......


To the guy whose test conditions were screwed up: It sucks that the test conditions were so unfair. Sucky things sometimes happen..... as a doctor, ideal situations will often not be at your disposal. Still, it's too bad it happened during the MCAT!

excellent post!! i agree with you 100%

 

[htruong0]

please, you all are about to enter a professional field in which people not only resptecting to their own self but also to each and every one of their peers. If you continue to have such attitude, i don't think medicine is the field for all of those who might fine drugger dealing be better fit. I'm sorry, but it's just unacceptable. What is the word "bitch" "****" "Stupid" are for? they're are not the description to describe someone in the medical field who might experience hypoglycemia just because. to those of you, do you really understand just because. true that she's stress out like we were all did. but what about her medicine condition that result in such symptoms; what if she had to take her dose of insulin before her breakfast and experience hypoglycemia secondary to stress and sleep deprived. what if...millions of what if...you all should start train yourself to be a physician who supposedly sympathize, caring, compassionate, not cursing, anger, degnerative. ok...please...my 1 cent thoughts. she was in an unfortunate situation and sorry for those who got affected. It's all about how you deal with stress and how spontaneously you respond to unforeseenable situation with sound judgement and attitude. after all, y'all mcaters deserve the best for your hardwork including fainted jane doe.

 

[doctorbydefault]

I think its easy to say that everyone should be more compassionate and I see that viewpoint. But if that happened to me, at the moment that I have studied months and months for, I think I would deserve to vent. Everyone who was there deserves to vent here. This test is a mental game and that incident can mess you up bad.

 

[Psycho Doctor]

you defintely have a right to vent..we all do for whatever went wrong during our administration...even if it was our own fault. however all some of us is asking is to keep compassion in your thoughts because anyone truly wanting to be a physician hopefully is going into the field becuase they genuinely care about the well-being of people and woud put their patients before themselves.

and i'm sure i'd vent too..but i'd probably be thrown out because if this happened any place near me, i would have been up there trying to help the girl..especially when it seemed like the proctors had no clue.

 

[DieselPetrolGrl]

i get episodes but hey they didnt bother anyone around me
i ust sit there smiling at the paper then grown and my face hurts then the proctor was like U F*CKING IDIOT OPEN THE SEAL
thats why i never got done with PS
i was in my " ohhh its really happening..how thing these booklets are...this seat sucks....why cant i use my pen?" i just blank out
thank goodness she kept a eye on me after that
but in VR they had the name Sebastian and that THREWWW ME OFFFF!!!
i like(d?) a guy by that name and i started underlining it and arrowing it but they never asked a Question ..that serious upset me...bc i knew everything having to do with Sebastian in that passage!

 

[Tiddly of Winks]

...you know, if we were in China you'd have your tongue cut off for having a cell phone go off during the exam. Mandatory sterilization for anyone who dares bring an alarm to the testing center, and mandatory sterilizations for the whole family if you have the temerity to have said alarm go off during the exam. Lets stop the defective genes in their tracks.

I think you get your eyes gouged for farting.

As for the stunt this chick pulled? I fear I lack the wretched inhumanity to invent her punishment. But somewhere in the slums of Shanghai, a jaded old man sits on a hard wooden chair smoking an unfiltered cigarette and staring with legs crossed and eyes squinted off into the distance, through a haze of smoke and into a world we dare not imagine in our comfortable, dare I say it...plush world. His thoughts vile, seeking on behalf of others the kind of vigilante justice not seen on network television since the days of the mid-80's television show 'The Equalizer.'

I'm voting Chairman Mao as my write-in candidate this November....who's with me?

What is this strange thing called... "satire"?