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[Dharma]

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If you could only read one CBT book which would it be and why? Hoping to find a go-to that I can lean on. Thanks!

 

[splik]

if you are looking for a basic primer for CBT, the main one, which was written for psychiatry residents is Learning Cognitive Behavior Therapy (Amazon product ASIN 1615370188)

If you want a more detailed read then the Science and Practice of cognitive behavioural therapy is good (Amazon product ASIN 0192627252)

if you're actually wanting to do CBT proper it is helpful to get the manuals and workbooks for the specific problems you are treating at this stage in your career and hopefully you will have supervision with good supervisors who will watch you

 

[futuredo32]

I use Marsha Beck's. She has one for difficult cases and one devoted to weight loss, maybe others but those are the three I have written by her.

 

[Dharma]

if you are looking for a basic primer for CBT, the main one, which was written for psychiatry residents is Learning Cognitive Behavior Therapy (Amazon product ASIN 1615370188)

If you want a more detailed read then the Science and Practice of cognitive behavioural therapy is good (Amazon product ASIN 0192627252)

if you're actually wanting to do CBT proper it is helpful to get the manuals and workbooks for the specific problems you are treating at this stage in your career and hopefully you will have supervision with good supervisors who will watch you

Thanks for the tips! Picked up a copy of the second one. I think the first in available through our program on e-library.

 

[PikminOC]

I got the 2 splik recommended. I could not find any marsha beck books

 

[splik]

I got the 2 splik recommended. I could not find any marsha beck books

i am presuming she meant judith beck (cognitive therapy basics and beyond is another commonly used primer). maybe she was confusing judith beck with marsha linehan?

 

[PikminOC]

Ah thank you

 

[Dharma]

I guess I am worried that I will not have ideal supervision since my sessions will not be directly observed. We have supervisor meetings where we discuss cases so I guess that's better than nothing. At this stage, I'm hoping to develop a basic foundation and understanding and trying to do whatever I can to increase the likelihood of becoming somewhat competent. BTW, do psychiatrists ever continue training in therapy after residency and if so, how?

I can see that the vast majority of my outpatient med management patients could benefit from CBT and, to TBH, for a lot of them who "have been on everything" medication-wise, this is a missing component in their treatment and quite possibly the one that could actually make some difference. (There are many whom I assume medications is not much better than placebo which does not sit well in my gut). Ideally, I would become adept at providing CBT so at the very least I can use these techniques even in med management appointments. That stated, it kinda of irks me that in practice, I would likely turf these patients to another provider for therapy since the modern psychiatrist mostly prescribes medications (unless I find a way to have my own cash gig).

How do you all deal with these conflicts, if you faced them that is?

 

[futuredo32]

These are the books I was referring to. Amazon product ASIN 1609185048
Amazon product ASIN 1609189906
Amazon product ASIN B01GEXSAR6
My shrink is an analyst but he loves
Amazon product ASIN 0380810336
He tried to do CBT with me but he was awful 🙂. I don't know if it's due to the book or the fact that he is an analyst.

YES residents graduate and get supervision after residency if you want to do therapy. One of my former attendings did supervision with me and I just had to pay the meal tab for . Most pay for it. I did tons of therapy in residency. I only do CBT, supportive and psychodynamic therapy and I hand pick which patients I want to do therapy with in my lil private practice. I no longer feel the need for regular supervision but I do (and maybe this isn't appropriate) ask my own psychoanalyst/shrink about some patients Hippa protected way. Psychotherapy doesn't reimburse well with insurance. I am trying to switch to FP ,but I dislike therapy the least. I am not money minded, I would rather do what makes me a little happier at work. I'm more concerned with happiness than money. I am probably the poorest physician in the USA, but that's ok. It depends on what you value most, money or happiness. And you could certainly build a cash only practice but have a side job until you have enough patients to live at the level you want.

 

[futuredo32]

i am presuming she meant judith beck (cognitive therapy basics and beyond is another commonly used primer). maybe she was confusing judith beck with marsha linehan?

Sorry, I am studying and I swear I am getting dumber the more I study. I did mean Judith Beck. Sorry for the confusion. JUDITH BECK also offers - at least she used to, a weekend course, a colleague went and loved it. It's pretty expensive.

 

[Dharma]

These are the books I was referring to. Amazon product ASIN 1609185048
Amazon product ASIN 1609189906
Amazon product ASIN B01GEXSAR6
My shrink is an analyst but he loves
Amazon product ASIN 0380810336
He tried to do CBT with me but he was awful 🙂. I don't know if it's due to the book or the fact that he is an analyst.

YES residents graduate and get supervision after residency if you want to do therapy. One of my former attendings did supervision with me and I just had to pay the meal tab for . Most pay for it. I did tons of therapy in residency. I only do CBT, supportive and psychodynamic therapy and I hand pick which patients I want to do therapy with in my lil private practice. I no longer feel the need for regular supervision but I do (and maybe this isn't appropriate) ask my own psychoanalyst/shrink about some patients Hippa protected way. Psychotherapy doesn't reimburse well with insurance. I am trying to switch to FP ,but I dislike therapy the least. I am not money minded, I would rather do what makes me a little happier at work. I'm more concerned with happiness than money. I am probably the poorest physician in the USA, but that's ok. It depends on what you value most, money or happiness. And you could certainly build a cash only practice but have a side job until you have enough patients to live at the level you want.

Do you plan on going into FM residency? I can see myself getting worn down by blood pressure, diabetes, obesity (metabolic syndrome), patients being reluctant to make lifestyle changes to address the above. Also basically playing role of referral sling shot. All things that steered me clear of FM. BTW how deep are you into practice? Sounds like a big change.

 

[futuredo32]

Do you plan on going into FM residency? I can see myself getting worn down by blood pressure, diabetes, obesity (metabolic syndrome), patients being reluctant to make lifestyle changes to address the above. Also basically playing role of referral sling shot. All things that steered me clear of FM. BTW how deep are you into practice? Sounds like a big change.

I am applying with the rare hope of getting residency. I realized I wanted out of psych my first year of residency. I graduated in 2015 work VERY minimally because I truly dislike psych . I don't want this thread to get derailed like one I started about the boards. So let's stop with this here. If AFTER the board exam, you feel the desire to discuss, feel free to pm.

 

[Dharma]

I am applying with the rare hope of getting residency. I realized I wanted out of psych my first year of residency. I graduated in 2015 work VERY minimally because I truly dislike psych . I don't want this thread to get derailed like one I started about the boards. So let's stop with this here. If AFTER the board exam, you feel the desire to discuss, feel free to pm.

Totally respect that. Best of luck! And thanks for the CBT links.

 

[WisNeuro]

I guess I am worried that I will not have ideal supervision since my sessions will not be directly observed. We have supervisor meetings where we discuss cases so I guess that's better than nothing. At this stage, I'm hoping to develop a basic foundation and understanding and trying to do whatever I can to increase the likelihood of becoming somewhat competent. BTW, do psychiatrists ever continue training in therapy after residency and if so, how?

If at all possible when you are done, I'd look into some extra supervision, at the very least, someone that can listen to tapes or something. There is a HUGE difference between discussing a session and having someone see or listen to it. The amount of things that you may not even be aware of to bring up in a supervision discussion or not think is important is staggering, especially at first. There really is no substitute to having supervision of observed sessions.

 

[Dharma]

If at all possible when you are done, I'd look into some extra supervision, at the very least, someone that can listen to tapes or something. There is a HUGE difference between discussing a session and having someone see or listen to it. The amount of things that you may not even be aware of to bring up in a supervision discussion or not think is important is staggering, especially at first. There really is no substitute to having supervision of observed sessions.

I'm sure I can request it now. Thanks!