Good versus Outstanding interview

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I've been racking my brain over this for the past few days and have spoken to many pre-medical students who just got done with some of their interviews (bc they're done on a rolling basis). What I keep trying to understand conceptually is...What makes an interviewee just "so-so" versus "good" versus "OUTSTANDING" ?

What is it? Is it a novel, innovative solution to a long-standing problem? Is it a unique perspective molded by a lifetime of indescribable hardship? What makes someone stand out from the rest? I understand the basic qualities of a good interviewee: honesty, integrity, ease of communication, etc. But what makes someone outstanding???? And is it something you can practice in a few months or is it a deeply ingrained characteristic built up over a lifetime?
 
I've been racking my brain over this for the past few days and have spoken to many pre-medical students who just got done with some of their interviews (bc they're done on a rolling basis). What I keep trying to understand conceptually is...What makes an interviewee just "so-so" versus "good" versus "OUTSTANDING" ?

What is it? Is it a novel, innovative solution to a long-standing problem? Is it a unique perspective molded by a lifetime of indescribable hardship? What makes someone stand out from the rest? I understand the basic qualities of a good interviewee: honesty, integrity, ease of communication, etc. But what makes someone outstanding???? And is it something you can practice in a few months or is it a deeply ingrained characteristic built up over a lifetime?

Not sure you can separate the two. I walked out of my OSU interview in tears, I thought it was that bad. (Obviously it wasn't). I think as long as you present yourself well, don't make idiot mistakes (one girl at my interview brought typed up notes in with her--DON'T DO THAT! Lol), and know your application, you should be golden.
 
Not sure you can separate the two. I walked out of my OSU interview in tears, I thought it was that bad. (Obviously it wasn't). I think as long as you present yourself well, don't make idiot mistakes (one girl at my interview brought typed up notes in with her--DON'T DO THAT! Lol), and know your application, you should be golden.


My friend, who is now in veterinary school, had a similar problem. She thought the interview went horribly and that the panel hated her. I guess it went better than she expected because she was offered acceptance a few weeks later. 😉

I haven't interviewed for veterinary school yet, but I've interviewed for internships and jobs. If you're worried about your interview (as we all are, I think), you could trying going to your university's Career Services. Schedule a time for a mock interview and maybe ask them to include questions you've found online that vet schools seem to ask. I think it's very important to get a little bit of practice.
 
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This is a very hard question to answer for vet school because it partly depends on the style of interview, partly depends on what the status of the interviewee is in the minds of the adcom, and partly on their goals for the interview.

In general, all interviews are basically about finding "fit". Does this candidate fit in with our organization, will they excel, will they make us better?

If you demonstrate that you are the perfect candidate for them, then that is a GREAT interview, but it still might not "feel" great to you.

Do your research on the school, make sure you can put yourself in the best light and show that you would be a great choice, and that is all you can do.

I, too, had what I thought was a bad interview, but it didn't affect me. You just don't know, and I guess if you spend too much time thinking about it, it will hurt you more than help you.
 
I would be curious to know how many interviews out of an annual batch of them (each cycle) an interviewer feels is truly "outstanding". I'm not sure that there are really all that many and/or that it's worth beating yourself up over how to get past a good interview and into "Give her the DVM now!" territory, if you know what I mean. I think what you mentioned- good communication skills, some level of poise/composure, the ability to think on your feet and a solid knowledge of your own application as well as the school makes for a good interview. The outstanding quality is probably more luck of the draw- how are you feeling that day, how are the interviewers feeling, do they ask you questions that you've practived/thought over instead of "surprise" questions, etc.
 
Something to think about; sometimes an interview seems 'bad' because the interviewer is trying to determine how you react to stress. I would worry less about outstanding and more about fit.
 
Gosh-- I walked out of my Glasgow interview almost in tears. I couldn't understand the accent at first, was crazy nervous, and thought I stumbled over every answer---it was my first interview ever. Walking back to my friend's flat, I was so bummed, and asked her if she could maybe put in a good word for me at some point, because I had fallen in love with the school.

We got back to her flat a half hour later and I had an unconditional offer in my e-mail inbox 😍 Best day of my life.

Eventually, when I got here, my interviewers told me they were impressed with my confidence, open-mindedness, and general "worldly" sense. They thought I already possessed the qualities of a good physician. I certainly didn't think my interview was outstanding, but I guess my interviewers saw something in my responses?
 
Gosh-- I walked out of my Glasgow interview almost in tears. I couldn't understand the accent at first, was crazy nervous, and thought I stumbled over every answer---it was my first interview ever. Walking back to my friend's flat, I was so bummed, and asked her if she could maybe put in a good word for me at some point, because I had fallen in love with the school.

We got back to her flat a half hour later and I had an unconditional offer in my e-mail inbox 😍 Best day of my life.

Eventually, when I got here, my interviewers told me they were impressed with my confidence, open-mindedness, and general "worldly" sense. They thought I already possessed the qualities of a good physician. I certainly didn't think my interview was outstanding, but I guess my interviewers saw something in my responses?

I definitely had several like this and ended up being wait listed and eventually accepted or accepted right away. Then there were others where I thought it went well and was rejected. It's really kind of hard to gauge how you did. I kind of felt like the times where I felt it went horrible, I actually got the better results. Except for Illinois, where I knew I bombed the interview but it doesn't carry as much weight in the application process (thankfully). Behavior based interview freak me out , so if you're not familiar with them, become familiar with that type of interview as well.

I was told several times that I interview well when I think I'm absolutely horrible at it. I get all tongue tied and shaky and feel like I never answer the questions well enough or don't explain things clearly. I feel that way about public speaking, but had a professor tell me that I speak in a very natural way and that it doesn't come off too rehearsed.

I think in the end you're a lot harder on yourself when it comes to how things actually went. Just go over some practice questions and read over your application and it shouldn't be too rough.
 
I think there are things that you can do to help you move from so so to outstanding.
As SOV said reserch the schools that you will be interviewing at. I tried to pick something that i felt was unique about each school and had several different ways to "spin" it depending on what question they might ask. i would also make sure that you have at least 3 questions that you can ask the interviewers. Not that you need to ask all three but if they should ask you your one questions and you don't have another one ready you will look unprepared. I believe you should always ask a question (even if you have done the research and know the answer) to show that you are interested in the school and are making an effort during the interview. Also schools tend to ask some of the same questions from year to year so know what those are and make sure you have answers for them- especially if a school focuses on ethical questions.
I read an article that the my undergrad career center published about business cards. So i had business cards printed with my picture and a 5 word statement about my work ethic or some such garbage on the back. Practice handing out your business card and shaking hands with someone BEFORE you go.
If you have access to a video camera tape yourself answering questions...do you roll your eyes or bite your lip, look at your body language -does it say anything negative about you.
Make sure you are well hydrated (the night before). My first interview my lips actually stuck to my teeth my mouth was so dry.
Make sure you let the interviewer finish their sentence/questions before you begin your answer. I made sure that I took a deep breath and released before I started each answer. This way it gave me a few seconds to compose myself/ determine my answer just in case I had to think. If I didn't need to think it made me slow down so I didn't rush my answer.
Come prepared. My pre vet advisor told me that everyone would have already seen my application. WRONG. On one interview (panel) two of the three had never seen my application. Bring copies and ask if they have seen your VMCAS application and if not would they like a copy during the introduction.
Make sure you get the names of the peopel you interviewed with and send them thank you emails after the fact.
Think of the school interivew as a job interview and anything you would or wouldnt do for a job interview do or dont do with your vet school interview. Dress appropriately, light on jewelry etc… etc…
Good Luck!
 
Come prepared. My pre vet advisor told me that everyone would have already seen my application. WRONG. On one interview (panel) two of the three had never seen my application. Bring copies and ask if they have seen your VMCAS application and if not would they like a copy during the introduction.

I really can't get behind this statement at all. As far as this part goes, vet school interviews are not like job interviews where you bring a copy of your application or resume. Many schools purposely do not allow interviewers to see your application for several reasons. Some panels are completely blind with no one seeing your application, some schools all the interviewers have seen it, and some are a mix. I don't feel that it's appropriate in this situation and could show your lack in understanding of the process or research into how schools perform their interviews.
 
I really can't get behind this statement at all. As far as this part goes, vet school interviews are not like job interviews where you bring a copy of your application or resume. Many schools purposely do not allow interviewers to see your application for several reasons. Some panels are completely blind with no one seeing your application, some schools all the interviewers have seen it, and some are a mix. I don't feel that it's appropriate in this situation and could show your lack in understanding of the process or research into how schools perform their interviews.

I have not interviewed yet, but when I received my invite to interview at Missouri they said specifically to not bring any paperwork, notes or anything with you. They also said to not contact the panel with thank you emails or cards... I would definitely research how the school does their interviews, they do it that way for a reason!!

I agree with Em!
 
UGA apparently did some research on their students before they decided to stop doing interviews. Apparently those that did best during the interviews were the most likely to get bad grades during vet school/fail out/etc. and those that didn't do so well in the interview had the higher class ranks. They did the research for 10 classes and figured that out and decided there is no point in asking people spend their time and money on traveling and interviews if that was going to be the outcome.

So maybe you don't have to worry too much if you felt that your interview wasn't "outstanding." 😉
 
My interview only lasted about 8 minutes and afterwards I was in tears thinking I did horrible. I don't think there is a way to know what they are looking for. I think the best way to "prepare" is to simply research how the school interviews people (is it blind, behavioral, etc). This can give you a general idea of how the questions will go and can relieve some nerves.
 
Thanks for the replies. I am referring specifically to MMIs so I do think that preparation is more important here than, say, for the traditional interview. Good things to think about. Thanks!
 
I think the business card might be a little over the top if you're creating a card just for this purpose... but unless the school tells you specifically not to bring anything, I don't see anything wrong with bringing an interview portfolio with a copy of your resume, transcript, app, etc... You don't have to ever open it or write in it or pull anything out of it, but the stuff's there if you need it, and it's in a neat little professional looking package. It's also nice to have so that you can just stick any loose pieces of paper you might accumulate during the interview. I would say a majority of the people I interviewed with had them, so it really isn't weird to walk in with one.
 
. Behavior based interview freak me out , so if you're not familiar with them, become familiar with that type of interview as well.

What is a behavior based interview? Also does anyone know about tufts and penns interviews and what can be done to do well in them?
 
Also does anyone know about tufts and penns interviews and what can be done to do well in them?
Check the interview feedback section. there are plenty of opinions there
http://studentdoctor.net/schools/?view=veterinary

Both Penn and Tufts have very informal interviews. They mostly want you to be relaxed and be yourself.

Penn's only quirk is one interviewer is open book/ other closed book, meaning one of your 2 interviewers knows nothing about you, so you have to give them the basic points about yourself, the other has read your file/application, and wants further details.
 
What is a behavior based interview? Also does anyone know about tufts and penns interviews and what can be done to do well in them?

Tufts is very laid back and conversational. If you look in the Tufts thread from this year and last year, I believe I've posted about my experience with their process. It's probably also in the support thread, where are you applying, interview , etc. I know I've posted it several places at this point.

Same with Penn actually I'm sure. If you go to the interview feedback section of this website, that's helpful too but it ultimately comes down to you and how you present yourself.

And behavior based is where they present you with a situation and you say what you would do in it and what a possible outcome would be and stuff like that. I wasn't really a fan, but that's also the type I encountered during some job interviews, so I just have to get used to it.
 
Tufts is very laid back and conversational. If you look in the Tufts thread from this year and last year, I believe I've posted about my experience with their process. It's probably also in the support thread, where are you applying, interview , etc. I know I've posted it several places at this point.

Same with Penn actually I'm sure. If you go to the interview feedback section of this website, that's helpful too but it ultimately comes down to you and how you present yourself.

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At least we Pennwe's provide consistent, if duplicated information. :laugh:
 
I believe you should always ask a question (even if you have done the research and know the answer) to show that you are interested in the school and are making an effort during the interview.

I know that's fairly standard advice, so I acknowledge that I might be off base here, but ... I still disagree.

If you have questions - sure, ask them. If you don't have questions - ask yourself: Do I not have questions because I have all the info I need, or because I haven't taken the time to think this through? The answer *ought* to be the former rather than the latter.

And if that's the case (that you've got all the info you need) ... just be honest and tell them that when they say "Do you have any questions for us?" Phrase it in a positive way - something about how you don't have any questions because you've already your homework.

My answer was "I've been volunteering in the teaching hospital for two years. I've talked to every fourth year student that came through our area on rotations about vet school, admissions, life during school, their plans after graduation .... I feel like I have all the information I need to know that I want to be at this school."

Personally, I think that's one step better because it shows you've already done your research. If you're asking them questions, it implies you're still in the information-gathering stage. Definitely not a bad thing, but not quite as good as already having done the work. Back in my interviewing days in the telecom biz, it was always painfully obvious when people were asking questions because it was the typical thing they thought they were supposed to do to ace their interview - and it always annoyed the hell out of me because it was so obviously contrived. Don't be that person; at least come up with genuine questions that you couldn't have gotten answered by 5 seconds of skimming the vet school's website. Or make it related to your interviewers' job/field. But the people that did best in my interviews were the ones that came into the interview already knowing what they needed to know about the company (within reason; obviously there are some things that are just plain difficult to find out without asking an insider).

If you have access to a video camera tape yourself answering questions...do you roll your eyes or bite your lip, look at your body language -does it say anything negative about you.

Really good advice.

My pre vet advisor told me that everyone would have already seen my application. WRONG.

Yeah, that's bum advice because it differs from school to school, and it's not even black and white - at some places they "may" see it, so you don't know. I flat-out asked my interviewers right at the beginning (I phrased it as "So I understand how much background to give in my answers, have you had the opportunity to review my application?" or something similar.). Nothing wrong with asking them - it's not likely to be a secret!

I'm consistently surprised at the poor advice people get from "pre-vet advisors".... Kinda getting the impression that the pre-vet advising thing is something that schools are just throwing at some staff member who already has a full plate with other stuff and so the person just wings it. I'm sure there have to be good ones out there, but it seems like more often than not they're giving out advice that just isn't all that good.

Regarding what to bring into the interview, I'm with MB. I don't see any reason not to bring your stuff in a nice little folder. Either you can reference it or, if the opportunity presents itself, you can share it with them. They can always decline - no harm, no foul.

I would encourage people to bring a pad of paper and a pen and to not be afraid to jot notes to yourself - just make sure you start off by asking if they mind if you take notes. I used it as an opportunity to write one or two keywords for their questions as well as my answers - it helped keep me on track and focused. Obviously you don't want to sit there and take 30 seconds to outline an answer, but noting one or two key words can a) help you stay organized, b) give your hands something to do, and c) buy you a few extra seconds of thinking time for framing your answer. It also gives you a chance to insert a natural, not awkward, break in eye contact, which is just as important as maintaining it. 🙂

Ugh. This post turned into a book. Sorry.
 
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