Got a B-, am I screwed

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Hi all,

I am a sophomore at Columbia University and am currently feeling very stressed. I don't think I can get into a single top 30 med school now. My current GPA is 3.75, I have got A's in all of my science classes except for Biology where I got a B- (A's in chemistry 1 and 2, physics 1, chemistry laboratory, frontiers of science, and physics laboratory). I also work in a research lab and am working on my 1st paper for publication; done prior research at MIT doing NMR work. I also have received 10k in research grant money for this summer to continue my current project. I feel confident that I will do much better in bio this next semester, the issue was that I dislocated my elbow a week and a half before the final exam for the class and found it hard to study and even take the exam. Should I mention this when applying or would that not be looked on well? Also, do you all think I have a good shot at the top 30 (I am a California resident) still if I do decently on the MCAT, have 1 or two papers where I am a co-author, and have recommendations from professors at MIT, UCSF, and Columbia?

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No. You're fine.

You're a sophomore, just keep your grades up and do well on the MCAT. Keep up research and get good recs.
 
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Hi all,

I am a sophomore at Columbia University and am currently feeling very stressed. I don't think I can get into a single top 30 med school now. My current GPA is 3.75, I have got A's in all of my science classes except for Biology where I got a B- (A's in chemistry 1 and 2, physics 1, chemistry laboratory, frontiers of science, and physics laboratory). I also work in a research lab and am working on my 1st paper for publication; done prior research at MIT doing NMR work. I also have received 10k in research grant money for this summer to continue my current project. I feel confident that I will do much better in bio this next semester, the issue was that I dislocated my elbow a week and a half before the final exam for the class and found it hard to study and even take the exam. Should I mention this when applying or would that not be looked on well? Also, do you all think I have a good shot at the top 30 (I am a California resident) still if I do decently on the MCAT, have 1 or two papers where I am a co-author, and have recommendations from professors at MIT, UCSF, and Columbia?
It is a pre-med delusion that you have to have perfect grades to get into medical school, much less a top one.

Do you feel better now?

EDIT: are that freaked out by this that you had to make not one but three posts on the same subject?
 
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What about the elbow thing, worth mentioning or not rlly important?
 
It is a pre-med delusion that you have to have perfect grades to get into medical school, much less a top one.

Do you feel better now?

EDIT: are that freaked out by this that you had to make not one but three posts on the same subject?
yea bro I'm feeling screwed. This school is hella competitive and hard bro. Like, its Columbia U the students here don't **** around.
 
yea bro I'm feeling screwed. This school is hella competitive and hard bro. Like, its Columbia U the students here don't **** around.
Your neuroses will end your medical career before it starts, much faster than any poor grades.

You could have failed that course and still get into med school.
 
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Seriously? 1 B- and you think you can't get into any top 30 medical school?

Buy the MSAR and take a look at the range of GPAs from every one of those medical schools. HINT: It's not 3.99-4.9
 
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Give me some chances on med schools, what I should be looking at rn.
 
You shouldn't be looking at any medical schools right now. A school list is not possible with <50% of undergrad completed and no MCAT score.

You can still be competitive for the "top 30."

Take a deep breath. It's going to be okay.
 
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Either your a troll or absolutely clueless of the medical application process to the point where its insulting. Buy the MSAR and educate yourself.
 
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Guys I'm not trying to go to a ****ty med school like I'm trying to be a real big baller. Very quickly, will med schools understand the grade as coming from a very hard school and in a class many consider to be one of the hardest if not the hardest sophomore bio classes in the country (Professor mowshowitz)
 
So you are just clueless, buy the MSAR its like 20 bucks and look at the percentile ranges of the schools your interested in. I am sure you'd be pleasantly surprised.

In previous years the selectivity of the undergrad you went to was of higher importance only at top institutions, however the most recently released guide from the AAMC no longer shows that distinction and the selectivity of the undergrad is not really that important according to this: (pg5)
https://www.aamc.org/download/462316/data/mcatguide.pdf#page=10

The difficulty of your basic science course will not be taken into consideration at all to be honest because the chances of someone being on the admissions board who actually went to your school, took the same class with the same professor I would say are astronomically low. The difficulty of your science course load is taken into account but not individual courses.

On another note medical schools do not need more of people with your mentality. There arn't any "s****" med schools, there are medical schools with different missions that they address but it by no means makes them "s****". Get your head out of your a** and learn some respect
 
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So you are just clueless, buy the MSAR its like 20 bucks and look at the percentile ranges of the schools your interested in. I am sure you'd be pleasantly surprised.

In previous years the selectivity of the undergrad you went to was of higher importance only at top institutions, however the most recently released guide from the AAMC no longer shows that distinction and the selectivity of the undergrad is not really that important according to this: (pg5

The difficulty of your basic science course will not be taken into consideration at all to be honest because the chances of someone being on the admissions board who actually went to your school, took the same class with the same professor I would say are astronomically low. The difficulty of your science course load is taken into account but not individual courses.

On another note medical schools do not need more of people with your mentality. There arn't any "s****" med schools, there are medical schools with different missions that they address but it by no means makes them "s****". Get your head out of your a** and learn some respect

Mate that is total bull****. Of course your undergrad matters and of course a "better" undergrad matters. An A at UC Davis is not equivalent to an A at Columbia, hell an A at Harvard due to their rampant grade inflation isn't equivalent to an A at UChicago, Princeton, or Columbia. Going to an ivy league school matters, it is more difficult than your average state school ovbiously. Kids with 3.2's from columbia each year get into top-10 med schools. Mr Biology professor serves as one of the writers and advisers for the mcat and "She is especially known for employing problems of historical significance, including many Nobel-Prize winning problems, in her introductory courses and in 1999 received the Presidential Outstanding Teaching Award" + "Her introductory biology course has been described as "the most theoretically rigorous intro bio course in the United States" medical school admissions officers know who she ****ing is buddy. You sound like a crock of ****. And bull**** that there aren't ****ty medical schools; perhaps ****ty is a bit harsh of a term. You should really get off your high horse and speak more politely. You have been bandying words around like "clueless" when I'm merely asking questions. If you have nothing polite or meaningful to contribute, then please desist as I am tired of hearing from you and your meaningless responses.
 
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Mate that is total bull****. Of course your undergrad matters and of course a "better" undergrad matters. An A at UC Davis is not equivalent to an A at Columbia, hell an A at Harvard due to their rampant grade inflation isn't equivalent to an A at UChicago, Princeton, or Columbia. Going to an ivy league school matters, it is more difficult than your average state school ovbiously. Kids with 3.2's from columbia each year get into top-10 med schools. Mr Biology professor serves as one of the writers and advisers for the mcat and "She is especially known for employing problems of historical significance, including many Nobel-Prize winning problems, in her introductory courses and in 1999 received the Presidential Outstanding Teaching Award" + "Her introductory biology course has been described as "the most theoretically rigorous intro bio course in the United States" medical school admissions officers know who she ****ing is buddy. You sound like a crock of ****. And bull**** that there aren't ****ty medical schools; perhaps ****ty is a bit harsh of a term. You should really get off your high horse and speak more politely. You have been bandying words around like "clueless" when I'm merely asking questions. If you have nothing polite or meaningful to contribute, then please desist as I am tired of hearing from you and your meaningless responses.

yep you're screwed
 
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Mate that is total bull****. Of course your undergrad matters and of course a "better" undergrad matters. An A at UC Davis is not equivalent to an A at Columbia, hell an A at Harvard due to their rampant grade inflation isn't equivalent to an A at UChicago, Princeton, or Columbia. Going to an ivy league school matters, it is more difficult than your average state school ovbiously. Kids with 3.2's from columbia each year get into top-10 med schools. Mr Biology professor serves as one of the writers and advisers for the mcat and "She is especially known for employing problems of historical significance, including many Nobel-Prize winning problems, in her introductory courses and in 1999 received the Presidential Outstanding Teaching Award" + "Her introductory biology course has been described as "the most theoretically rigorous intro bio course in the United States" medical school admissions officers know who she ****ing is buddy. You sound like a crock of ****. And bull**** that there aren't ****ty medical schools; perhaps ****ty is a bit harsh of a term. You should really get off your high horse and speak more politely. You have been bandying words around like "clueless" when I'm merely asking questions. If you have nothing polite or meaningful to contribute, then please desist as I am tired of hearing from you and your meaningless responses.
I'm just going to ask this. Where will you practice after med school so I can avoid running into you?
 
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My data is from the AAMC but hey yeah maybe they are a bunch of lairs :rofl::rofl:
 
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Mate that is total bull****. Of course your undergrad matters and of course a "better" undergrad matters. An A at UC Davis is not equivalent to an A at Columbia, hell an A at Harvard due to their rampant grade inflation isn't equivalent to an A at UChicago, Princeton, or Columbia. Going to an ivy league school matters, it is more difficult than your average state school ovbiously. Kids with 3.2's from columbia each year get into top-10 med schools. Mr Biology professor serves as one of the writers and advisers for the mcat and "She is especially known for employing problems of historical significance, including many Nobel-Prize winning problems, in her introductory courses and in 1999 received the Presidential Outstanding Teaching Award" + "Her introductory biology course has been described as "the most theoretically rigorous intro bio course in the United States" medical school admissions officers know who she ****ing is buddy. You sound like a crock of ****. And bull**** that there aren't ****ty medical schools; perhaps ****ty is a bit harsh of a term. You should really get off your high horse and speak more politely. You have been bandying words around like "clueless" when I'm merely asking questions. If you have nothing polite or meaningful to contribute, then please desist as I am tired of hearing from you and your meaningless responses.

So sorry to hear of your adversity. Even then B- from Columbia is an absolute death sentence. I'm pretty sure you still have chance at Princeton, though. Stay strong and keep trying. Show resilience throughout the process and this can be the perfect topic for an adversity essay!
 
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Honestly, if i were you I'd switch my major to finance because your B- has ruined your GPA, your personality sucks eggs, and the best med school you'll probably get into is your local state med school, which wouldn't allow you to become a "big baller". RIP chichawathni's pre-med career: 8, 2016 - 1, 2018
 
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Stop freaking out. There's no utility in stressing about something beyond your control.

N=1, but had a similarly low grade and did fine in the admissions cycle.
 
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You will be fine. People get into top 30 med schools all the time without perfect 4.0 GPAs.
 
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Mate that is total bull****. Of course your undergrad matters and of course a "better" undergrad matters. An A at UC Davis is not equivalent to an A at Columbia, hell an A at Harvard due to their rampant grade inflation isn't equivalent to an A at UChicago, Princeton, or Columbia. Going to an ivy league school matters, it is more difficult than your average state school ovbiously. Kids with 3.2's from columbia each year get into top-10 med schools. Mr Biology professor serves as one of the writers and advisers for the mcat and "She is especially known for employing problems of historical significance, including many Nobel-Prize winning problems, in her introductory courses and in 1999 received the Presidential Outstanding Teaching Award" + "Her introductory biology course has been described as "the most theoretically rigorous intro bio course in the United States" medical school admissions officers know who she ****ing is buddy. You sound like a crock of ****. And bull**** that there aren't ****ty medical schools; perhaps ****ty is a bit harsh of a term. You should really get off your high horse and speak more politely. You have been bandying words around like "clueless" when I'm merely asking questions. If you have nothing polite or meaningful to contribute, then please desist as I am tired of hearing from you and your meaningless responses.
 
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Your neuroses will end your medical career before it starts, much faster than any poor grades.

You could have failed that course and still get into med school.
Goro, you are a legend and you should be the next personality on the dos eques beer commercial.
 
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WHOSE MAN/WOMAN IS THIS?

And to be quite honest i looked at her tests and they are different but not extraordinarily hard. I went to a state school and i can say that one of my physiology class was much harder and upper division was a harder version of your professors test. I was also well-prepared for the MCAT.

There are many schools in the US that provide a fine education even though the opportunities that top schools give their students can be awesome and plentiful.
 
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And to be quite honest i looked at her tests and they are different but not extraordinarily hard. I went to a state school and i can say that one of my physiology class was much harder and upper division was a harder version of your professors test. I was also well-prepared for the MCAT.
B-b-but it's columbia, an ivy!
 
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