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Apparently, the summary offenses are less than a misdemeanor. Most of the time people just pay a small fine. It would be on OP's record though.Get a lawyer. What was the value of the item. Is it s misdemeanor or a felony? Try your best to not have it turn into a conviction. If you do end up with one you will have to disclose within 10days.
Get a lawyer. What was the value of the item. Is it s misdemeanor or a felony? Try your best to not have it turn into a conviction. If you do end up with one you will have to disclose within 10days.
Get a lawyer. What was the value of the item. Is it s misdemeanor or a felony? Try your best to not have it turn into a conviction. If you do end up with one you will have to disclose within 10days.
This has been talked about before (summary offenses). Perhaps you can find some information there. Many of the recommendations seem to say it won't come up, but I wouldn't know personally.
To my understanding summary offenses DO come up on criminal background checks, because they are non-traffic citations and you are fingerprinted for them. But my background check had already gone through and approved by the school since I had no priors. It says on the AAMC website I have to report misdemeanors or felonies, but will withholding this summary offense effect me?
1000000% agree.Stop taking advice from anyone here
Get a lawyer yesterday.
1000000% agree.
I think the mods should start locking threads like these with the mention "SDN is not for legal advice"!
EDIT: I do worry that OP's medical career is over, though. This is an incredibly bad lapse in judgment.
Check your school's admissions website to see if they require anything extra.Hi I understand, legally I will be handling this with a lawyer - I was more looking for advice on whether I am obligated to report this to the school or not since the AAMC website only highlights misdemeanors and felonies to be reported...thank you
If I were in this situation, I would not be sleeping at night until I had it figured out.
Call the school on a burner phone*. Explain that you have been admitted but have a question you are asking anonymously, "is it obligatory to report a summary offense which does not rise to the level of a misdemeanor?" If they say "yes" you have your answer. If they say "No" ask if you can email someone (get an email address) and ask that question in writing and get a response in writing for your records.
Can we just take a moment to acknowledge the elephant in the room? The fact that adcoms know what burners are.
If you are going to email, send it from a local library... yes, some schools will have their tech guys give them am IP address... which can lead to you. So take one extra step and protect yourself there. (In some cases they can already have that info in their email and what type of device sent it... (my Father's work uses a program that does this.))If I were in this situation, I would not be sleeping at night until I had it figured out.
Call the school on a burner phone*. Explain that you have been admitted but have a question you are asking anonymously, "is it obligatory to report a summary offense which does not rise to the level of a misdemeanor?" If they say "yes" you have your answer. If they say "No" ask if you can email someone (get an email address) and ask that question in writing and get a response in writing for your records.
*or on a borrowed phone so that your own name doesn't show up on caller-id
I just wanted to also clarify that I called AAMC and they said that summary offenses are not obligated to be reported in writing to the schools accepted and matriculated - so is this policy set in stone for all schools or will that not apply?
Well, perhaps all the schools have agreed to this policy when they are a part of AMCAS. It sounds like you've done your due diligence in checking out your obligation.
I do think you should also read the information on the secondary application regarding arrests and any information in the student handbook. The only thing worse then getting an acceptance rescinded right now is getting expelled after two years and 100k plus in student loans.
For the above reason I would disclose a conviction , if it occurs. But once again ,lawyer up, delete Facebook, and hit the gym.
I had the understanding that you need to notify schools within 10 days of a conviction... If you still have a chance of having this expunged/dropped, I would wait. Others on here are far more knowledgeable than me, however, so don't take my word as truth. I would definitely consult the student handbook of the school you will be attending- they should have more information there.
Maybe it's just me, but you did something as stupid as shoplifting 3 months before you start medical school? at age what? 21-25? Seriously?
I have worked a lot of retail in my life and caught a bunch of shoplifters in a variety of situations for stealing a variety of items. It takes a lot for a store to call the police. Usually the shoplifters are just 86'd from the store without getting the police involved. So you must have been stealing something fairly valuable...not a candy bar or a tube of mascara. I'm having a very hard time believing you have never done this before.
Can we just take a moment to acknowledge the elephant in the room? The fact that adcoms know what burners are.
When is your court date? I know you hope to be found not guilty and have whole thing expunged but what if it doesn't go down this way? Will you have started Med school by then?
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I would find the both the AMCAS policy and the specific policy and run it past your lawyer. But as I reread your original post, if you do indeed have a a summary offense, it is equivalent to a traffic violation. There does not appear to be a need to report that, even upon conviction, unless you can find language in a student handbook that states as such.
You are still looking at this the wrong way. You are looking at the secondary requirements as if you are an applicant.Hi thank you for your response. The secondary I just looked into asks about any convictions, when I had submitted the secondary there were obviously none. I have not YET been convicted, there is still a chance I will not be (as of now, I am charged with a secondary offense)...
You are still looking at this the wrong way. You are looking at the secondary requirements as if you are an applicant.
You are not an applicant.
You need to consult the school handbook and find out what the school policy is for acceptee's,not applicants.
You are on the right side of luck so far.Hi thanks for your response again. I looked at the student code of conduct and it says prior to rotations or other experiences they can dismiss you if a conviction for (again) felony or misdemeanor is shown to come up - no mention of charges or summary offenses
Or just use Tor.If you are going to email, send it from a local library... yes, some schools will have their tech guys give them am IP address... which can lead to you. So take one extra step and protect yourself there. (In some cases they can already have that info in their email and what type of device sent it... (my Father's work uses a program that does this.))
Am I the only one that finds the dishonesty being hidden by dishonesty no bueno?
So how is this not grounds for rescinding an acceptance? I'm a little surprised at the amount of people seemingly telling OP to obfuscate the fact that he committed a crime a few months before starting medical school, this is SDN after all right?