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hi guys.. got back from the philadelphia. had my interview at PCO on december 20.th here is the full detailed report


had to be there by 10AM.. PCO is dirrectly north of the airport. take interstate 616/ broad street in a north direction. you will have to pass Temple university / school of medicine/ dentistry. if you do this, then you are in the right track. its a 25 min drive from my hotel. elkins park is in a very rural area, lots of trees and all that. it was 40degrees during my interview. the admissions desk, had secretaries processing various letters, acceptance, rejections or interview invites.

since my hotel is in the heart of downtown philadelphia, there are a lot of one way streets, traffic is a big hassle. took me 1 hr just to get parking for McDonalds breakfast. i stayed over the Hampton Inn hotel, pretty decent hotel BTW.

the interview: yeah that was a blast. It was one on one, nice lady that interviewed me. asked me a lot of personal questions. most of the questions she asked me was from this website. very basic. probably the best interview i had in a very long time. had a smile on my face. she was really interested in my interview. it was 45-50 mins long, it became to a point where it was more like a conversation than an interview. probably the highlight of the day, even though the lake in front of the school was frozen. Brrrrrrr.😱 one of the hardest questions i was asked: what dont you like about Optometry? but i gave a really nice answer based on the Optometry boards in various states. i said what every OD that i talked to said: OD in one state is not equal in other states. Just like dentistry, OD have lots of laws and restrictions. at least that is better than the answer that i gave a few years ago in another institution: oh umm OD sometimes work retail hours in a commercial practice. see the difference... DO YOUR RESEARCH OF THE PROFESSION lol..... 😀

had an exit inteview with an admissions counselor, she got all my credentials. people in PCO are very nice and helpful. there were other people being interviewed, one from Michigan, one from Sarosota, Fl, one from the PA local.

then they give free lunch. they give you a yellow lunch ticket to buy $7.00 worth of food.

after the interview, was financial aid meeting. we talked about what i already know and what you have known since undergrad for financial aid. Master promissary note, tuition, expect to spend 1K-2K worth of equipment and books guys. they offer merit and need based scholarships unlike NSUCO.

the school is kinda small for my taste, i was expecting larger, but their facilities are very large, their eye clinic is huge. school is kinda outdated, but their education is top notch.. and yes, no block exams like i had in Barry University. we had a tour of the campus, the clinic is a few miles from the school, its being renovated but like i said it is huge.

the clinic is organized in "modules"/ students are assigned modules at the beginning of the semester. the school has fewer clinics than most schools but their clinics are twice the size of a normal clinic. the classroom is large too housing 130-150 students.

bookstore is small, but you have to buy the notes pretty much.

afterthought, the school is located in an area that gives me a sour stomach. and yes you will have to be doing a lot of driving if you go there for 4 yrs. its in a rural area. but the education there is top notch, and they have a cirriculum that meets the demands of the new clinically directed NBEO that will be given now around the 3rd year. aside from the school being small, and in a bad location, i really like the school for its reputation, and in my grade book thats where it counts. i wish i could say more about the surrounding area of PCO, but i only stayed in PA for two and a half days. get a rental car guys, works wonders. i payed under $200 for my rental car at budget.

PCO kinda looks outdated, but thats just because they have been there since 1919, so they know the business of Optometry very well. they are updating their clinics, lots of renevations there.

they have a newly built gymnasium there. library is two stories, where they have a CPS class there for case study work. the school teaches classes in basic sciences/ ocular sciences. but there is a big huge freakin emphasis on clinical aspects of optometry here. you learn a skill, and you got to practice it on a patient ASAP. i had my tour done with 2nd year students, again very nice people. PCO is also well known for vision rehabilitation also, one of the few schools that teach vision rehab/ opthalmic lasers. Just by touring the school and reading their brochure puts a smile on my face:laugh:.

they do sent a crap load of 4th year students to Bascom palmer eye institute in Miami, Florida. i know this because i talked to 12-14 rotation students.

I will be getting a decision in 3-4 weeks. no matter what they decide for me, i believe my time here was well spent, and well worth it.

overall i give PCO an 93% average rating. aside from the craptastic location, small school, outdated buildings, its a solid education and i believe they provide an excellent education that rivals many schools. the only big thing i dont like about their cirriculum.... they slam 27-30 something credits per semester, which is a tad bit higher than most schools per semester. i know NECO 2nd semester of your second year is around 40 credits. from what i heard from a 4th year student .outch. 😡

other than that, their cirriculum kicks butt. 🙂. love their clinical approach, cant stand being in the classroom all day long.
 
thanks for the feedback.. I have my interview in february at PCO.. its too bad you don't like the area around the school... I've heard it is pretty ghetto as well.. do you know if PCO is still giving out any scholarships?
 
hi guys.. got back from the philadelphia. had my interview at PCO on december 20.th here is the full detailed report


had to be there by 10AM.. PCO is dirrectly north of the airport. take interstate 616/ broad street in a north direction. you will have to pass Temple university / school of medicine/ dentistry. if you do this, then you are in the right track. its a 25 min drive from my hotel. elkins park is in a very rural area, lots of trees and all that. it was 40degrees during my interview. the admissions desk, had secretaries processing various letters, acceptance, rejections or interview invites.

since my hotel is in the heart of downtown philadelphia, there are a lot of one way streets, traffic is a big hassle. took me 1 hr just to get parking for McDonalds breakfast. i stayed over the Hampton Inn hotel, pretty decent hotel BTW.

the interview: yeah that was a blast. It was one on one, nice lady that interviewed me. asked me a lot of personal questions. most of the questions she asked me was from this website. very basic. probably the best interview i had in a very long time. had a smile on my face. she was really interested in my interview. it was 45-50 mins long, it became to a point where it was more like a conversation than an interview. probably the highlight of the day, even though the lake in front of the school was frozen. Brrrrrrr.😱 one of the hardest questions i was asked: what dont you like about Optometry? but i gave a really nice answer based on the Optometry boards in various states. i said what every OD that i talked to said: OD in one state is not equal in other states. Just like dentistry, OD have lots of laws and restrictions. at least that is better than the answer that i gave a few years ago in another institution: oh umm OD sometimes work retail hours in a commercial practice. see the difference... DO YOUR RESEARCH OF THE PROFESSION lol..... 😀

had an exit inteview with an admissions counselor, she got all my credentials. people in PCO are very nice and helpful. there were other people being interviewed, one from Michigan, one from Sarosota, Fl, one from the PA local.

then they give free lunch. they give you a yellow lunch ticket to buy $7.00 worth of food.

after the interview, was financial aid meeting. we talked about what i already know and what you have known since undergrad for financial aid. Master promissary note, tuition, expect to spend 1K-2K worth of equipment and books guys. they offer merit and need based scholarships unlike NSUCO.

the school is kinda small for my taste, i was expecting larger, but their facilities are very large, their eye clinic is huge. school is kinda outdated, but their education is top notch.. and yes, no block exams like i had in Barry University. we had a tour of the campus, the clinic is a few miles from the school, its being renovated but like i said it is huge.

the clinic is organized in "modules"/ students are assigned modules at the beginning of the semester. the school has fewer clinics than most schools but their clinics are twice the size of a normal clinic. the classroom is large too housing 130-150 students.

bookstore is small, but you have to buy the notes pretty much.

afterthought, the school is located in an area that gives me a sour stomach. and yes you will have to be doing a lot of driving if you go there for 4 yrs. its in a rural area. but the education there is top notch, and they have a cirriculum that meets the demands of the new clinically directed NBEO that will be given now around the 3rd year. aside from the school being small, and in a bad location, i really like the school for its reputation, and in my grade book thats where it counts. i wish i could say more about the surrounding area of PCO, but i only stayed in PA for two and a half days. get a rental car guys, works wonders. i payed under $200 for my rental car at budget.

PCO kinda looks outdated, but thats just because they have been there since 1919, so they know the business of Optometry very well. they are updating their clinics, lots of renevations there.

they have a newly built gymnasium there. library is two stories, where they have a CPS class there for case study work. the school teaches classes in basic sciences/ ocular sciences. but there is a big huge freakin emphasis on clinical aspects of optometry here. you learn a skill, and you got to practice it on a patient ASAP. i had my tour done with 2nd year students, again very nice people. PCO is also well known for vision rehabilitation also, one of the few schools that teach vision rehab/ opthalmic lasers. Just by touring the school and reading their brochure puts a smile on my face:laugh:.

they do sent a crap load of 4th year students to Bascom palmer eye institute in Miami, Florida. i know this because i talked to 12-14 rotation students.

I will be getting a decision in 3-4 weeks. no matter what they decide for me, i believe my time here was well spent, and well worth it.

overall i give PCO an 93% average rating. aside from the craptastic location, small school, outdated buildings, its a solid education and i believe they provide an excellent education that rivals many schools. the only big thing i dont like about their cirriculum.... they slam 27-30 something credits per semester, which is a tad bit higher than most schools per semester. i know NECO 2nd semester of your second year is around 40 credits. from what i heard from a 4th year student .outch. 😡

other than that, their cirriculum kicks butt. 🙂. love their clinical approach, cant stand being in the classroom all day long.


hey sharpshooter, just wondering whether you got a response back from PCO or not? I just had my interview on Jan. 14th and they told me it would take 3-4 weeks also but some ppol from the forum claim they received a response the very next day.
 
hey sharpshooter, just wondering whether you got a response back from PCO or not? I just had my interview on Jan. 14th and they told me it would take 3-4 weeks also but some ppol from the forum claim they received a response the very next day.




yeah me and my friends were checking the rumors out.. since my interview was on dec. 20th. 2007, ill know by this week or early next week. i just called Nancy up in PCO. really nice lady to talk to. there going to make a decision on friday from what she told me. im praying my heart out that it is a good luck charm if ya know what i mean.

optextreme got a decision 24 hrs later i think. but i got a letter from PCO saying that it takes 3-4 weeks after your interview..

i got a NSUCO interview on feb 5th. :laugh: fran notified me last week. trying to debate in my head if i want to go to NSUCO which is a few miles from home or go to PCO which is in a land "far far away" .. im thinking posititive that both accepted me.
 
that's a good way of thinking.... good luck with everything!
 
sharpshooter...if u dont mind me asking...what were ur credentials prior to invite of interview?
 
sharpshooter...if u dont mind me asking...what were ur credentials prior to invite of interview?



Undergrad stats: not so good.. 2.9- 3.0
OAT: 320 AA .
( QR 290 RC 300 Bio 310 Chm 320 Org 350 Phy 310 TS 340)
Barry university masters biomedical science program: 3.44 GPA


im applying as a grad student. my crappy undergrad performance cost me to be rejected a couple of times in the past. hence reason why i went to grad school.
 
Did they say what their percent of board passage is?
 
Did they say what their percent of board passage is?


i called several people at PCO. and havent got exact numbers. i will try to get a hold of Dr. Caldwell ( assistant dean PCO) when i am free. it should be around above 90%.

i know novas passing rate for the summer 2007 administration 90.1%.. Sunny was 91% or 92%
 
i called several people at PCO. and havent got exact numbers. i will try to get a hold of Dr. Caldwell ( assistant dean PCO) when i am free. it should be around above 90%.

i know novas passing rate for the summer 2007 administration 90.1%.. Sunny was 91% or 92%

I had Dr. Caldwell for my interview also... he's really nice. BTW could you let me know around when you get your response letter/e-mail from PCO about your acceptance? The wait is just torture for me!
 
I had Dr. Caldwell for my interview also... he's really nice. BTW could you let me know around when you get your response letter/e-mail from PCO about your acceptance? The wait is just torture for me!



im trying to think positive right now. i know how rejection letters feel, trust me, ive been there.


all i know is that by next week, i will know. all i know also is that my file is going to be considered tomorrow jan 18th. 🙂


im getting nervous right now, this is my second time applying to PCO with
a) an early interview ( my first out of state interview):laugh:
b) with a lot of changes to my credentials.
 
Hi everyone, if you dont mind me asking,for the ones who got an interview at PCO, what are your stats? I'm applying REALLY late in the application cycle. I wont be taking my OAT until Feb. 2nd....and none of my rec letters are in......and i dont have a good gpa........

any advice? 🙁
 
that's really late, but you might get in under the wire if yo do really well.

Does anyone know about the BA that pen offers students after their first year? Is it offered to all students, and if so, do you have to transfer credits from undergrad for it and does it show the transfer credits? What does it look like? Thanks.
 
im trying to think positive right now. i know how rejection letters feel, trust me, ive been there.


all i know is that by next week, i will know. all i know also is that my file is going to be considered tomorrow jan 18th. 🙂


im getting nervous right now, this is my second time applying to PCO with
a) an early interview ( my first out of state interview):laugh:
b) with a lot of changes to my credentials.

Sharpshooter,
I am also waiting for PCO reply. They told me my file will be reviewed today as well. Waiting is torture...hope both of us get a positive letter....Please post if you hear back from them....i really hope they make a decision today...
 
Yeah im checking my email every other second. but the lady said the latest we would hear back would be tuesday. it worries me that they're reviewing so many people's files in one day since that might not give them the time needed to give every applicant a thorough consideration. anyway g'luck everyone.
 
Yeah im checking my email every other second. but the lady said the latest we would hear back would be tuesday. it worries me that they're reviewing so many people's files in one day since that might not give them the time needed to give every applicant a thorough consideration. anyway g'luck everyone.


hey pienfoo, forgive me if i am wrong, but didnt you get accepted to NSUCO?

fran offered me an interview for feb 5th. i had my PCO interview during the xmas break. and i applied to both PCO and NSUCO on Septerber 2007. just to let you know.
 
Did they tell you whether all decisions will be made by Tuesday-yes, no, hold. So if you don't hear back by then, it means rejection? I was told that rejections are not emailed. I really hate to wait. I had my interview early Dec.
 
the lady told me to call back on Tuesday, that a decision should be made by then. I guess if we don't find out today then we'll know by calling them next week, whether it be a yes or no.
 
did anyone get their email yet? I figured at least one person reading this that got their file reviewed today got accepted. This waiting is really killing me. I also had my interview in early december and they keep pushing back the dates of telling us whether or not we got in. How frustrating 🙁

im still hear thinking optimistically that they're staying late today till 6pm to send out those emails 🙂 I'll keep checking till then.
 
AHH i got in 😀😀😀😀 i've been waking up at 5am everyday this week just to check my email!!! ! ! ! !!! ! ! :happy: im so glad this is all over since i got into my top 2. i interviewed in early december and from what i know, PCO's a little behind so this week so they're reviewing people who interviewed there in the beginning of december. i was worried b/c some people got in the day after they interviewed. anyway g'luck to everyone!
 
congratulations👍
 
did anyone get their email yet? I figured at least one person reading this that got their file reviewed today got accepted. This waiting is really killing me. I also had my interview in early december and they keep pushing back the dates of telling us whether or not we got in. How frustrating 🙁

im still hear thinking optimistically that they're staying late today till 6pm to send out those emails 🙂 I'll keep checking till then.




its almost7:00 PM EST>. i did not get any email.. i called them today at 4:10 and The admissions counselor told me that she will call me back... havent gotten anything... man im worried.
 
AHH i got in 😀😀😀😀 i've been waking up at 5am everyday this week just to check my email!!! ! ! ! !!! ! ! :happy: im so glad this is all over since i got into my top 2. i interviewed in early december and from what i know, PCO's a little behind so this week so they're reviewing people who interviewed there in the beginning of december. i was worried b/c some people got in the day after they interviewed. anyway g'luck to everyone!



congrats my app was reviewed today and I was accepted via email as well!!
 
AHH i got in 😀😀😀😀 i've been waking up at 5am everyday this week just to check my email!!! ! ! ! !!! ! ! :happy: im so glad this is all over since i got into my top 2. i interviewed in early december and from what i know, PCO's a little behind so this week so they're reviewing people who interviewed there in the beginning of december. i was worried b/c some people got in the day after they interviewed. anyway g'luck to everyone!

Congrats! What was the other school you were accepted to?
 
AHH i got in 😀😀😀😀 i've been waking up at 5am everyday this week just to check my email!!! ! ! ! !!! ! ! :happy: im so glad this is all over since i got into my top 2. i interviewed in early december and from what i know, PCO's a little behind so this week so they're reviewing people who interviewed there in the beginning of december. i was worried b/c some people got in the day after they interviewed. anyway g'luck to everyone!

Congrats on your acceptance pienfoo. If you don't mind me asking, what were your stats like? GPA? OATs?
 
congrats goomba!

my gpa is a 3.0, and PCO calculated it to be 2.9 somethin'. my OAT score was 330ta340ts the first time i took it, and 360ta and 370ts the second time i took it. I would definitely recommend to anyone with a lower than average GPA and have one or more sub-300 score on their OAT to retake the test. It could make a huge difference!

My GPA is obviously crap. My first two years of undergraduate was filled mostly Cs and Bs, and an occassional A. HINT for you confused young people: make friends who study more than they party, it could save your future!! After making phone appointments to talk to several optometry school counselors, I knew what i needed to do to have the slightest chance of being accepted anywhere. I ended up retaking ALOT of pre-req classes, as well as have taken many upper div human bio classes and did well in them. However, there was so much dead GPA weight that my overall gpa only went up about .2 after two and a half years worth of work.

I think the adcoms are willing to consider my file despite my low GPA because of the following: 30+ hours of work throughout my undergrad; 5 optometry internships in different settings; competitive undergraduate (UCSD); leadership positions in several clubs and volunteer organization; Of course, I wish I had done less and perhaps would have ended up with a higher GPA so that i didn't have to go through hell to get accepted, but the experience was well worth it.

I know this is controversial, but what im trying to say is that you can offset your low gpa, assuming it's not due to laziness, stupidity or some other lame excuse, by showing dedication to optometry, and having the work ethics and determination to prove it. This also means getting a high score on the OATs, imo it's the best way to persuade the adcoms to slightly forgive you for your GPA hazard.

You'll hear people getting in with a 2.8 and 310, and some with a 3.8 and 380, but that shouldn't make you hopeful nor scared since every file is individualized. I mean, everyone with a low GPA (a good chunk of all the applicants) has a rare circumstance and should be looked at as an exception, like if you're poor, someone was sick, you were sick or depressed, whatever... riiiight? no, whatever your reasons are, you're rarely the exception, so you're gonna need to make your application stick out like a sore thumb with proof that you're ready for graduate school and not stories begging for sympathy. Find the weakness in your application and then take all the right steps in fixing it. If you try real hard (and whine less), you'll have a really good chance of getting in somewhere. whoa i just wrote an essay haha.

g'luck ! !! ! ! !
 
man some of u guys should try to relax.. i know its hard to say that but the reason they keep postponing ur acceptance/rejection is b/c they are constantly interviewing ppl that may be as competitive as u in terms of pre-req grades/OAT scores... im interviewing on feb.21 and i have a 3.7 pre-req gpa comin from canada... so i mean ur in tough with the competition.. but i know ppl last yr who interviewed at pco and only had 3.1 gpa and got an interview in late march so u may have to wait a while to here anything...
 
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